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dirttoldfart
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My first attempt at mushroom cultivation
#22004881 - 07/27/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So this is my first time trying to grow shrooms, and I don't really know what I'm doing wrong. I followed this tek exactly:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324/fpart/1/vc/1
I inoculated 12 jars, 4 with Cambodian, 4 with B+, and 4 with Golden Teacher. This was 10 days ago, and there is no sign of contamination, but also no sign of mycelium. I keep them on a shelf in a closet, with temperature ranging from 79F in the day to 74F in the night. Am I just not being patient enough, or is there something wrong? I bought the spore syringes from a trusted and well-reviewed vendor.
Here are some pictures of my jars today:

(I don't keep them stacked like they are in the first picture, I just did that to make them more visible in the picture)
Edited by dirttoldfart (07/27/15 02:44 PM)
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Re: My first attempt at mushroom cultivation [Re: dirttoldfart]
#22004901 - 07/27/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Only been 10 days. They can take 2-30 days to germinate sometimes
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Re: My first attempt at mushroom cultivation [Re: bodhisatta]
#22005010 - 07/27/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you are sure you let them cool enough I would wait it out. 10 days is not much.
Instead of 3 different cube strains I would have advised getting a sclerotia / stone producing strain from 1 particular sponsor (who I cannot name) if you mention you are a shroomery member and ask nicely they will typically throw in a free cube strain of their choice for free. Research and you would fine out who, maybe more than one does it.
This way if your cubensis fail you have the sclerotia to fall back on. You can grow sclerotia on whole grain rice which can be steamed.
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Re: My first attempt at mushroom cultivation [Re: blackout]
#22005126 - 07/27/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know the waiting game sucks.
Try this, give them a little light. Its a common misconception that incubation requires absolute darkness.. When in fact the actually need a little light to get going! Give it a shot. Don't use sunlight (direct sun is NOT good for your jars) Us indirect light. Just open the closet door for like 4-8 hours a day. I'm using this method also (indirect light) and I always have mycelium growth on day 3 or 4.
I'm following the the same tek as you from the link in my signature.
Best of luck buddy, report back ya?
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Re: My first attempt at mushroom cultivation [Re: JacobStorm]
#22005147 - 07/27/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah it's frustrating reading all those posts about seeing growth in three days and you look... day after day... and nothing.
You should have some spore syringe solution left over. Why not inoculate a few more jars as a backup. Plus it'll give you something to do.
Good luck!
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Re: My first attempt at mushroom cultivation [Re: ShroominMe]
#22005330 - 07/27/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This hobby rewards the dedicated, the diligent and the patient.
I learned that the hard way..
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Re: My first attempt at mushroom cultivation [Re: ShroominMe]
#22005337 - 07/27/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Patience. This shit is all about patience. You're in the right timeline so far.
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Re: My first attempt at mushroom cultivation [Re: dirttoldfart]
#22005390 - 07/27/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the replies, I'll let the jars sit for a week or two and report back then.
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Re: My first attempt at mushroom cultivation [Re: dirttoldfart]
#22005427 - 07/27/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also try not handle them TOO much. Your a germ factory try to let them be.
And don't tip the jars on their side, always look at them in a vertical sense. You don't wanna go shifting or moving around that dry-vermiculite-contaminate-barrier.
When you were inoculating, and putting the needle through the inoculation hole in the jar, and didn't have the needle its self directly against the side of the jar, theres a good chance what happened was the liquid spores soaked into more of the substrate towards the middle rather than the very OUTSIDE of the substrate, where we look for mycelium growth. (it happens) So patients, patients and more patients!
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Re: My first attempt at mushroom cultivation [Re: JacobStorm]
#22005496 - 07/27/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
JacobStorm said: This hobby rewards the dedicated, the diligent and the patient.
I learned that the hard way..
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Re: My first attempt at mushroom cultivation [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22006766 - 07/27/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you did your filter right you can touch it all you want. But yeah, don't tilt them if you can help it.
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Re: My first attempt at mushroom cultivation [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22006857 - 07/27/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel your pain.
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dirttoldfart
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So i glanced at my jars this morning and it looks like one jar may have developed some kind of contamination.

I'm looking at the small patch towards the top in the middle that looks greenish.
I moved it away from the other jars to be safe. The rest of the jars still show no signs of growth.
Edited by dirttoldfart (07/28/15 01:35 PM)
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JacobStorm
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You did the right thing moving it away from the others.
I hope it's not a contame but it does kinda look green...
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dirttoldfart said: So i glanced at my jars this morning and it looks like one jar may have developed some kind of contamination.

I'm looking at the small patch towards the top in the middle that looks greenish.
That's the beginnings of trich. And the bottom of the jar looks dark, I'm not sure if thats a shadow or black mold? Either way, I'd toss it.
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Quote:
dirttoldfart said: So i glanced at my jars this morning and it looks like one jar may have developed some kind of contamination.

I'm looking at the small patch towards the top in the middle that looks greenish.
I moved it away from the other jars to be safe. The rest of the jars still show no signs of growth.
I'd just wait it out 
You'll know soon enough.
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Re: Update 1 [Re: taGyo]
#22010648 - 07/28/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
taGyo said:
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dirttoldfart said: So i glanced at my jars this morning and it looks like one jar may have developed some kind of contamination.

I'm looking at the small patch towards the top in the middle that looks greenish.
I moved it away from the other jars to be safe. The rest of the jars still show no signs of growth.
I'd just wait it out 
You'll know soon enough.
If you decide to wait it out make sure you do so outside. Any suspected contams I get I just move them outdoors until I can be sure. If anything other then pure white myc starts to grow in your jars you can be pretty certain it's a contam. That has a greenish appearance so I would say it's a definite contam.
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It's not going to pass the dry verm layer to infect everything lol.
You're being overly cautious. I fruit tubs next to contamed tubs and they don't cross-contam because of the polyfill.
But do what you want
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dirttoldfart
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Re: My first attempt at mushroom cultivation [Re: dirttoldfart]
#22010689 - 07/28/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Decided just to get rid of the contaminated jar. I took it outside and dumped the cake out, and then just because I was curious I broke the cake apart. The green growth looked fuzzy like some kind of mold and it continued well into the center of the cake.
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Re: My first attempt at mushroom cultivation [Re: dirttoldfart]
#22012578 - 07/28/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just skimmed, but I saw something about black mold. If you see any black or purple molds, you DO NOT fuck around. PC them immediately, don't open the jar, double bag them and throw them the fuck out. Black and purple molds can kill.
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