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Taming the DMT beast
#22003956 - 07/27/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why does DMT feel so brief, fast and pushy?
It's like it goes a million miles per hour and then it's over and you are left wondering what the fuck happened.
I thought oral administartion would slow it down to a useful speed but I just tried that and it was still incredibly fast paced! It was a lot more similar to vaping it than I expected...
Is there a way to slow this experience down a bit?
I feel that perhaps I should just dose higher so all time ceases to exist? But on the other hand, it could just make it go faster still...
Maybe I should use the vine instead of rue to feel a little more guided and grounded as opposed to rollercoaster launched?
Thoughts?
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Re: Taming the DMT beast [Re: GoldenEye]
#22004173 - 07/27/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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A way to control the speed is to smoke it in steps and phase yourself into the other dimension. Load the pipe with a little more than you usually take and inhale slowly and "listen" to how your body reacts. The more you inhale the more boost you get and it can be stressful to your body especially if you are holding your breath and tense up during the increase in heartbeat and all. Take it slow. Ive managed to successfully gradually enter the other dimension like phasing into it. Gradually the scene changes. It takes some more mg to do it this way but its less stressful, especially if you fear it because its so powerful. Inhale and feel how the lungs gets the material in and once you feel a rush you stop and let it take effect. If it gets too intense and you tense up, just relax and breathe out slowly not to cause tension. Then relax for a few seconds and take another. You can learn to control the rush and the boost almost like learning to use the pedal on a car.
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Re: Taming the DMT beast [Re: qweqaz]
#22004209 - 07/27/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's interesting. Maybe I should revisit the changa chapter. That's what I started off with and it has always seemed very manageable.
With this oral experience from earlier today I just got all the colors and intricate designs racing through me and leaving me sort of raped in the end.
Although I have to admit, the afterglow is pretty good and has all the usual "I want to clean up my life" feelings
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Re: Taming the DMT beast [Re: GoldenEye] 2
#22004232 - 07/27/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Smoke it while on mushrooms. It will last longer and it wont feel so fast. Certainly slows it down without diminishing the potency of the experience.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: Taming the DMT beast [Re: GoldenEye]
#22004243 - 07/27/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Aye, know the feeling very well. DMT is almost like a detox for the whole body. Almost like those netipot where you cleanout your nasal cavity. With DMT you flush through your system with a cleaningagent and sometimes you come across "negative" areas and after some flushing it gets clean and your mind starts to work better.
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Re: Taming the DMT beast [Re: qweqaz]
#22004266 - 07/27/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah it's so weird. Maybe all it does is just forcefully remove energy blockages by blasting through them. Maybe it's okay to have everything go fast and frantically?
Combinations are on the to do list. I only vaped on a treshold dose of mush and that was indeed very peaceful. Should be worth further exploration!
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Re: Taming the DMT beast [Re: GoldenEye]
#22004276 - 07/27/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Combine a lowish dose of aya with vaping a similar dose of freebase at the peak or ontop of a shroom trip That way you dont go from 0-100 too quick
The trick qweqaz described above works too, i sometimes put some dmt in my convection vape with the weed and thats just the most relaxed way to do it Every toke at lowish temperature has only a little dmt vapour and this makes it very mellow on your lungs At the same time you can keep taking small hits, all without any chance of burning your material or fucking about with an open flame
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Re: Taming the DMT beast [Re: thoraxx]
#22004305 - 07/27/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
thoraxx said: Combine a lowish dose of aya with vaping a similar dose of freebase at the peak or ontop of a shroom trip That way you dont go from 0-100 too quick
Exactly.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: Taming the DMT beast [Re: GoldenEye]
#22005176 - 07/27/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The only thing that's actually slowed down and "tamed" the (smoked/vaped) dmt experience for me is the harmala alkaloids (I use syrian rue, still haven't worked with the aya vine)....For my self, the harmala alkaloids do exactly what you're looking/asking for in your original post. Slow the experience down, makes everything easier to process, and dulls down dmt's "pushy" edge.
The harmalas not only make the (smoked/vaped) experience last a bit longer, but they slow down the experience in general as a whole. The come up and initial flash is slower and more stretched out. The nature of the visuals are also slowed down, the entire experience just seems to be easier to process and observe....all the while being even more immersive and offering more depth to the experience than just dmt alone.
The harmala alkaloids also make me feel "grounded" and tranquil, somewhat of an anxiolytic effect. So before smoking the dmt I'm already "off baseline" and in a calm headspace, I feel "primed" for lift off .
The harmalas bring so much to the experience that I generally prefer not to smoke dmt without smoking some syrian rue before, or drinking some syrian rue tea before smoking my dmt.
Smoking dmt whilst on mushrooms or LSD does absolutely nothing for me in regards to "slowing down" or "taming" the dmt experience...It is a much easier transition into that space when I'm already tripping. When I'm on mushrooms or LSD I have far less apprehension or pre-flight jitters when I'm about to smoke dmt, compared to smoking dmt when I'm completely sober....but again, in my experience mushrooms or LSD does nothing to slow down the rapid nature of dmt alone, just makes it a bit smoother and easier to 'dive in" and "let go" .
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Re: Taming the DMT beast [Re: openmind]
#22005440 - 07/27/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's exactly what I expected. Turns out the harmala's and the route of administration don't really alter the experience that much for me.
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