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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: mustangbob3]
    #22062785 - 08/08/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:hellyeah: :nyan:


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: daz01]
    #22062869 - 08/08/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Had such a great haul today guys, will post pics soon :laugh:




Have a good trip bro. 20 of these suckers is probably a nice mellow primer for a first timer, see how it feels then work your way up in future. Look forward to hearing how you get on. Good vibes :rasta:

Visited my patch today but the fruits are drying up, managed to pick up a few nice specimens all the same...







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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: monkeyjuice] * 1
    #22062919 - 08/08/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Had a nice walk today with a mate and found 100 little libs ate 50 each, man have i missed these babies haha have a good season guys :-D


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: bolton-liberty-cap]
    #22062977 - 08/08/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

what are the bigger flatter libs called?
im sure they have a different name?
and potency too!

just can remember the name...

most just class as liberty caps but some believe they are actually some other grassland psilocybe, maybe p.strictipes

anyone know what im talking about?

anyway might be in my head but they are worth seperating and taking alone:thumbup:

like i said might be in my head but they seem more potent to me.

last year i found quite a few.


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: mustangbob3]
    #22063005 - 08/08/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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mustangbob3 said:
what are the bigger flatter libs called?
im sure they have a different name?
and potency too!

just can remember the name...

most just class as liberty caps but some believe they are actually some other grassland psilocybe, maybe p.strictipes

anyone know what im talking about?




I'm not sure bob, but I believe it's a lib. It was pretty much surrounded by the smaller, more familiar caps. Maybe someone else can clarify?

I have found quite a few like this in the past, right at the end of the season. Maybe it's just the form a larger lib takes as it's decaying?


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: monkeyjuice]
    #22063030 - 08/08/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i looked them up i was right , the ones i was talking about are called p.strictipes virtually indistinguishable when young and look just like libs!

they sometimes a little darker more greyish and a more obvious gelatinous pellicle. look like wetter libs lol that how i would describe them.
cap shape is little different towards the end of the life cycle.
this is a give away.

you may have 1 there but not 100% on it.

google p.strictipes then you will know in future.
would love to know if others think they are more potent.

i wonder if they are easier than libs to cultivate?
might take some prints this year ....

here check this out-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_strictipes


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: mustangbob3]
    #22063095 - 08/08/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cool man, thanks for the link. Having had a read and looked at the pics I believe you are right. Here's some pics I took last year of what might be the same thing. I wasn't sure about them back then but I ate em' thinking they were libs and never had a problem. What do you reckon?...



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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: monkeyjuice]
    #22063163 - 08/08/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

im no expert but i would say good candidates.

but some dont even consider them different mushrooms but they do have different features that are missing that libs dont so i agree they are different.

maybe someone more experienced like a Trusted Identifier could help better.

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Psilocybe strictipes is commonly confused with Psilocybe semilanceata and can be differentiated by its lack of a papilla and a convex to subumbonate cap.




thats the difference:thumbup:

So i was wrong they dont have a obvious nipple, however lots of pics do show a nipple just not as pronounced as libs so now im not too sure if yours are lol

here is a great thread from a fellow member about identifying them if your interested.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9040828/fpart/all/vc/1


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: mustangbob3]
    #22064202 - 08/08/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I do 20 libs on new batches.


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: monkeyjuice] * 1
    #22064226 - 08/08/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Cool man, thanks for the link. Having had a read and looked at the pics I believe you are right. Here's some pics I took last year of what might be the same thing. I wasn't sure about them back then but I ate em' thinking they were libs and never had a problem. What do you reckon?...






Libs.


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: monkeyjuice]
    #22065715 - 08/09/15 03:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Happy Hunting!




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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: daz01]
    #22065764 - 08/09/15 04:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks guys, 25 each was a very weak dose, we did strain out the actual mush from the lemon and planned to eat it after depending how intense it was, but it looked so disgusting...

Will just eat them next time :wink:


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #22065886 - 08/09/15 06:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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im no expert but i would say good candidates.






Cheers bob, interesting stuff. I'm sure we'll get to to the bottom of it.


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: monkeyjuice]
    #22065921 - 08/09/15 07:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Question, some of my libs had bluish stuff on the roots, is this a concern? Also there seem to be a fair few tiny tiny wigglers, little jumpy bugs that are barely visible, what are they and will theu spoil the batch?


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #22065935 - 08/09/15 07:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks guys, 25 each was a very weak dose, we did strain out the actual mush from the lemon and planned to eat it after depending how intense it was, but it looked so disgusting...

Will just eat them next time :wink:




Careful with eating them raw, it can greatly increase stomach problems such as nausea and projectile vomiting :feelsbadman:


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #22065954 - 08/09/15 07:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Question, some of my libs had bluish stuff on the roots, is this a concern? Also there seem to be a fair few tiny tiny wigglers, little jumpy bugs that are barely visible, what are they and will theu spoil the batch?




When the flesh of the stem or cap of a fresh mushroom is bruised or damaged (from human handling, being blown in wind, having been crushed, had insects on them etc), an enzyme occurs which oxidizes as it comes into contact with air. This causes the damaged area of the mushroom to turn blue. Perfectly normal.

As for bugs, probably springtails...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springtail


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: monkeyjuice] * 2
    #22065963 - 08/09/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Relating back to what the topic of conversation was several posts ago - I reckon that the first flush of the season is always the most potent. I confirmed this with myself last year when there was a first flush around mid-August (Lasted about a week because of the temps going back up, didn't get the 2nd one 'til late Sept.) and did a solo trip, were I ate roughly about 40-50 dried. I know I'm not measuring out my doses by weight so it's not gonna be 100% accurate by any mark, but usually that is my regular dose.

I have a good mental image set of the size of a fist containing about that many, and that image gets re-used in practice every time I dose.

So yeah, last season, first flush mid-August I did this dose what I'd normally do, (never found them this early before in previous years) And I had the most intense mushroom trip that I've ever had, in potency twice as strong as what I'd normally experience at the same dose, maybe even threefold what I'd expect. Had set out this wonderful x mile walk around the countryside, waited 2 hours and still hadn't properly started feeling anything due to eating quite a lot prior to the experience.
Had some headphones with me and things started to ''move'' whilst I was listening to Lucy in the sky by the Beatles... Was sat at the top of a hill somewhere, and through my head flows the lyric: ''Everyone smiles as you drift past the flowers, That grow so incredibly high...'', looked around me and all there were to be seen were about 4 huge ass disgusting thistles towering over me as I was sat on the ground, and 'cause of the two contrasting pictures put into my mind I was in a good bit of a hysteria for a fair while. Haha, and from there on in I just didn't stop peaking, got really disorientated and had to keep lying down every 10 minutes to allow my brain to experience this temporary sub-breakthrough nature of the mushroom, before I'd become more co-ordinated again and be able to move on whilst knowing where the heck I was! This kept happening until the peak started to come down and I've never experienced anything like it, having done that same (eyed) dose many a time before.

I remember this discussion last season and there being this idea that the mycelium is being generated under the ground all year, and when the first flush comes about, the mycelium suddenly goes a bit mental because it has something to inject itself into all out of the blue and then as we go through the multiple flushes of the season the mycelium and the mushrooms start aligning & being more consistent, bringing about less potent secondary flushes but a realllllyy strong first one. A cool idea, haha!  :mushroom2:


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: monkeyjuice]
    #22065987 - 08/09/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

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Question, some of my libs had bluish stuff on the roots, is this a concern? Also there seem to be a fair few tiny tiny wigglers, little jumpy bugs that are barely visible, what are they and will theu spoil the batch?




When the flesh of the stem or cap of a fresh mushroom is bruised or damaged (from human handling, being blown in wind, having been crushed, had insects on them etc), an enzyme occurs which oxidizes as it comes into contact with air. This causes the damaged area of the mushroom to turn blue. Perfectly normal.

As for bugs, probably springtails...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springtail





The blue stuff was on the stem before being handled, it was on the part beneath ground i think. Blue fluffy stuff...

And the bugd look smaller than the pictures of springtails i found on google, I'll post a pic


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: WhutDatShroom]
    #22066003 - 08/09/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like it makes sense to me, another theory i have is early flushes are like the alpha-males of the field, the stronger ones genetically that don't struggle to fruit in harsher temperatures, dunno, just a thought


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Re: **The Official UK Liberty Cap Mushroom Season 2015** [Re: Blazeyy] * 1
    #22066210 - 08/09/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Sounds like it makes sense to me, another theory i have is early flushes are like the alpha-males of the field, the stronger ones genetically that don't struggle to fruit in harsher temperatures, dunno, just a thought




Fair, that is an interesting idea. And obvs the spores creating the first flush have come from and settled from the mushrooms of 2014. A lot of the later flushes of the season will be brought about by the spores of this year's mushrooms, of the earlier flushes. So that could also play a role, if ya get me.


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