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InvisibleTheLoopIs

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Gypsum is pointless with the standard method?
    #22003728 - 07/27/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

First time using gypsum. I just poured 1.5 tablespoons into my wbs thats simmering (before sterilization) and I'm thinking what the hell is the point of this if I'm going to be pouring out the water anyways...the gypsum is going to leave as well since its water soluble? wouldn't it be better to mix gypsum when your loading your wbs into jars? Even if gypsum gets into the WBS in the simmering stage or before- much of it still leaves with the straining of water, am I right?


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #22003733 - 07/27/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Gypsum prevents grains from clumping.

Use it in your bulk sub, it's more useful there imo.


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: taGyo]
    #22003804 - 07/27/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Enough stays on and in the grain to make a difference. You could add a bit to your jars instead, but that's a lot of work and you'll waste gypsum.


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #22003810 - 07/27/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Use organic rye and you'll never worry about grains sticking :wink:


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: PirateSwazey]
    #22003829 - 07/27/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Aint gonna lie, I do love my rye!

Yea, you try n rhyme like Dr Suess:lol:


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: mushmagic]
    #22003884 - 07/27/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My oats don't clump either :super:


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: taGyo]
    #22003944 - 07/27/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've never used gypsum and my WBS doesn't stick. You just have to do it right. If you people would stop boiling it, then insisting there's no problem boiling it, then bitching about clumping there wouldn't be an issue. Simmer, never boil.


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #22003950 - 07/27/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Never had clumping with anything else either and use WBS for years (some worse than others) I guess I just love rye lol:shrug:

I dont boil tho either..


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: mushmagic]
    #22003979 - 07/27/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If your WBS is sticking (corn in it or not) you're either not rinsing enough, not drying it enough or getting the water too hot while simmering.

I rinse the shit out of it, then soak for 24 hours changing the water whenever I think about it to keep it hot. Then drain and simmer in fresh hot water. Drain again, lay it out on a towel for a while then jar it up. So fucking simple.


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If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more.

Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #22003998 - 07/27/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I agree. I too had never had problem of clumping with my wbs. so if I'm using gypsum for nutritional intent it should be mixed in at the spawn to bulk stage?
Also I didn't boil but I let my wbs simmer for 30 min...and it seems really really soft to the touch and I'm a bit worried. Can I still use it or did I kill it?


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #22004016 - 07/27/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You can add a little to your bags if you want to make more work for no reason. If you want to use your time and materials efficiently, throw it in the water.

As long as your grain hulls haven't burst it'll be fine.


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Redd Foxx said:
If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more.

Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #22004078 - 07/27/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

interesting whhat are grain hulls and what do u mean by "little bags" what step of cultivation is that u speak of?


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #22004124 - 07/27/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Go read.


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Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #22004851 - 07/27/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If not using gypsum I wash my grains with washing up liquid.

This is RR's comments on it.
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Gypsum serves two purposes. It adds calcium and sulfur, both essential mushroom nutrients, and helps prevent the grains from sticking and clumping up




If you search you will also see he reckoned it improved yields and induced pinning if used in agar.


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Re: Gypsum is pointless with the standard method? [Re: blackout]
    #22005301 - 07/27/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you want to use it, use it.  If you don't, don't.  Simple.  Just like any tek, sub or additive. :stoned:


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