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Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue
    #22003644 - 07/27/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Was in a hot climate recently for the weekend and brought LSD. It was in a tin within a duffel bag, in the sun sometimes. might've been 90-100 degrees outside

I thought you didn't have to worry too much about LSD but to my surprise it had practically no effect when ingested.

Similar Experiences? I mean its a summer drug. People told me they'd just hide some by dripping it onto a magazine page and leaving it there

think it was simply bunk blotter or heat damage??


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22003661 - 07/27/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:shrug: I've had mine in 90 before with no loss in potency and I've heard of people leaving sheets in a hot car on days like 90-100 with no problem. I mean how could LSD survive these brutally hot festivals? Not like anyone carrys coolers around for their LSD so I'm guessing it's more stable than we were led to believe. I think heat, moisture, oxygen are a little more important than heat as long as it's not exposed to really high temperatures for a long time


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22003669 - 07/27/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:shrug: I've had mine in 90 before with no loss in potency and I've heard of people leaving sheets in a hot car on days like 90-100 with no problem. I mean how could LSD survive these brutally hot festivals? Not like anyone carrys coolers around for their LSD so I'm guessing it's more stable than we were led to believe. I think heat, moisture, oxygen are a little more important than heat as long as it's not exposed to really high temperatures for a long time



this is kind of what I was thinking, all those summer festivals..

My new hookup seemed so legit though :nonono: hell he looked like he was on acid when i got it from him.


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22003691 - 07/27/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not completely sure though man. I had a half sheet I left unprotected in the heat and it lost all its potency too but then I've also had the opposite happen :confused: I wish there was more hard evidence on the degradation of LSD :sad: to be safe though I would try and keep it around 75 and away from light and oxygen


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22003735 - 07/27/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It shouldn't be that sensitive on blotter.

Was it super humid out?  If a lot of humidity was in the tin I could see it losing some potency.

Practically no effect when ingested makes me think it was bunk.


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22003816 - 07/27/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It shouldn't be that sensitive on blotter.

Was it super humid out?  If a lot of humidity was in the tin I could see it losing some potency.

Practically no effect when ingested makes me think it was bunk.



was humid where we got it and dry where we took it. spent most of its time in my possession dry


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22004061 - 07/27/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

LSDs biggest natural killer is light.

Thats why they use red lights in the LSD lab, to protect it from light exposure.

Also, "freshness" matters. By freshness, i mean, how recently was it laid?

Ive seen a photo of old and fresh hits, and the fresh one glowed bright with UV light. The old one was real dull With light.

Its a complicated subject without much solid research. 

If i had a sheet, i would definitely be running degradation experiments :yesnod:


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22004388 - 07/27/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Chlorine is really bad.  I had a vial once.  I ate half of it and thought I would dilute the rest because it was really potent and I thought, hey, this at half strength would still be really good!

In went the tap water...

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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22004416 - 07/27/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No!

Not tap water :nonono:

What a shame.

At least u learned a valuable lesson in LSD's arch nemasis :shrug:


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22004419 - 07/27/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:facepalm3: ouch


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22004460 - 07/27/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I had about a half a sheet of some strongggg WoW that I traveled across country with when I moved.

It was in my duffel bag. in an enclosed trailer.


I swear it lost some potency because back home, I gave my man like a fat 2 piece and he was gone.


Now I give someone 2-3 and it's still good, but not so in your face like it was before.


I was wondering this same thing.


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Big Worm] * 1
    #22006177 - 07/27/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well I just moved my LSD to my fridge because of this thread :lol:


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Rebelutionsssss] * 1
    #22007044 - 07/27/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

stuff is too rare to be taking risks


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22007050 - 07/27/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Would my liquid be good in 80-85 degree temps or should I just leave it in the fridge :confused: I keep getting confused on this issue


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22007534 - 07/27/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I vote that LSD dissolved in a solvent within an amber jar is best, besides raw crystal of course.

I just dont think blotter is all that protective :shrug:

I have a suspicion that LSD crystal "sheds" off blotter tabs, which could be the reason for potency loss. Maybe its not degradation but instead LSD crystals falling off from the paper tabs.


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22007871 - 07/28/15 02:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dude!!! You are so right!!! It totally is!, I've seen tabs that were literally sparkling from LSD. If I can see that it's falling off I bet.


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22008222 - 07/28/15 06:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Would my liquid be good in 80-85 degree temps or should I just leave it in the fridge :confused: I keep getting confused on this issue





Im rellin ya man put that shit in the fridge ASAP


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22008487 - 07/28/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's chillin in there with some desiccant i just keep finding conflicting info but I'm just going to leave it in there until summers over


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22009189 - 07/28/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yeah man heat, light, and oxygen are your enemies. The more you reduce those 3 things, the longer your stuff will last. Oxygen/heat IME are the biggest enemies


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22009335 - 07/28/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

iF u have a vacuum sealer, use it!

and go the extra mile and vacuum seal every single tab.

Then put in a light-tight container. Should hold up well.

But then there is the possible "shedding" issue from friction/handling. I wish i knew what was causing potency loss :confused:


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22009646 - 07/28/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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iF u have a vacuum sealer, use it!

and go the extra mile and vacuum seal every single tab.

Then put in a light-tight container. Should hold up well.

But then there is the possible "shedding" issue from friction/handling. I wish i knew what was causing potency loss :confused:





What should you put it in before you vacuum seal it?

I used to put the tabs in tinfoil then vacuum-seal the foil..but since the vaccum-sealer sucks the air out I cant help but think since the foil is rubbing off some of the LSD since its so sucked up right up against it because its vacuum-sealed.

what do you think?


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22009711 - 07/28/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

hmm, good point.

Didnt think the lsd would be sucked up!

Its a no win situation.

I think the best thing to do is to put paper tabs into gel tabs somehow, or empty capsules, then vacuum seal.

That way u take the pill, and has all the acid in the pill :shrug:


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22009734 - 07/28/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think the best way is to put in tinfoil, wrap in plastic wrap and put in the middle of a heavy book with other really heavy books on top of it. There's little to no air and out of light and heat of stored in the right room


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22009786 - 07/28/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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hmm, good point.

Didnt think the lsd would be sucked up!

Its a no win situation.

I think the best thing to do is to put paper tabs into gel tabs somehow, or empty capsules, then vacuum seal.

That way u take the pill, and has all the acid in the pill :shrug:





that's not a bad idea. So youre saying to just swallow the acid? Is it really JUST as effective as sublingual?

and im not saying the LSD will be sucked up(if that's what you think I meant) im saying that maybe the LSD will rub off on the foil because its being sucked up against it so hard, due to the vacuum seal



and rebelutions, I feel more comfortable just putting the lsd in anything, then putting it into the fridge.

like for a vial...I would stick the vial in a container with a desiccant  then into the fridge.


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22009829 - 07/28/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, u can swallow acid and it works just the same.

Try it and see for yourself :yesnod:

I would definitely be more comfortable with a vial over blotters for preventing potency loss.


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22009844 - 07/28/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have a vial that I've been using for the past few months and the thing has stayed potent through everything. :seriousthumbsup: glad I have a back up as well :awehigh:


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22009864 - 07/28/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

U lucky dogg

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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22009880 - 07/28/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

if tolerance wasn't an issue you would be seeing me on cnn :awecid:


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22010727 - 07/28/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah, u can swallow acid and it works just the same.

Try it and see for yourself :yesnod:

I would definitely be more comfortable with a vial over blotters for preventing potency loss.





But wouldn't blotter be better because you can vacuum seal them?


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22010929 - 07/28/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If its in liquid its already pretty well protected from air. Amber glass helps from light, pretty good storage method ime

Blotters have stored well in foil ime too though.

I think gel tabs would be great too.

If you have liquid I would recommend to keep it that way until its soon to be eaten.

By far most degradation happens from laying acid on candies


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Everything]
    #22011134 - 07/28/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have 4 candies laid with 4 hits of 50ug liquid each. I have them in tinfoil, vacuum sealed, and in the fridge. How long you think they will last?


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22015372 - 07/29/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know honestly. I've had sugar cubes and candies that have been dosed go bad in 3 weeks or less. But I'm sure it was because of storage.

I'd say eat one in the next 30 days and then when you eat the others you'll be able to.guage if there was potency loss


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Everything]
    #22015405 - 07/29/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've had a decent number of hits inside of a plastic non see through airtight container with silica gel in it for about 6 months now, me and 3 friends each dropped a tab last saturday, they all said they've never tripped harder, shit is still just as good as when I got it. They were kept in a safe as well, roughly room temperature, occasionally getting a little steamy in the room they were in.


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #24406435 - 06/14/17 09:12 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Okay so mine went through a dryer.... and when it came out it was at least 75% as strong imo.


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: ctd]
    #24407711 - 06/15/17 12:19 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Okay so mine went through a dryer.... and when it came out it was at least 75% as strong imo.



damn you must have a weak dryer man :lol: i would think that would destroy it for sure


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #24407722 - 06/15/17 12:24 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Rebel's back :awebig:

I have some blotter and im almost tempted to run a hairdryer over a hit. But i need to build a tiny jig to hold it down thou...


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24407737 - 06/15/17 12:29 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

for science!

Man, this thread waas only made 2 years ago? Feels like I haven't seen the friends I was with in more than 2 years :rofl: I gotta get myself down south and visit that chump


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #24407749 - 06/15/17 12:34 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

in my experience light and heat definitely fuck shit up


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #24407752 - 06/15/17 12:34 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Its been waaaay too long.

I had a better idea: Oven. No rig required. But what temp and for how long? :strokebeard:

For dr00g science :nerd:


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24407781 - 06/15/17 12:45 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

last time i tripped was with this girl that kept askibng me if this was normal and then described everything she was feeling and asking me if this would last forever. no lie, hella dampened my trip :lol: oh well. plenty more trips to be had


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #24408586 - 06/15/17 06:25 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Thats what i call a hella bummer trip.


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Re: Just how sensitive to heat is LSD? potency issue [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24408870 - 06/15/17 08:18 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

That's an awakening trip, very special experiences. Those are the trips I live for to Guide people to their new found self :laugh:


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