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oriky
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revive the free seed thread on market plant?
#22002893 - 07/27/15 05:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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hey, im just think about something...
as neuro back to visit and im see him signature, what you think to open a new free ethno seeds thread? one like this: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1828789
there is people take part? lets say if there is 15 + people take insure they will be part of we can revive this thread...
tell me what you think people..
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: oriky]
#22002977 - 07/27/15 05:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like the idea.
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naum



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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: oriky]
#22005139 - 07/27/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It always seems to go to shit pretty quickly. I'm hesitant to bring it back again just to see it fail. If anything, new and strict rules/moderation of that thread are in order, but I don't think anyone is up for the job.
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: naum]
#22005217 - 07/27/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Naum, you are correct. Without someone babysitting, it would go to shit. I cant wait to be able to trade. I dont know the requirements, but guess it is a good time to go find out.
I am still pretty new here, so people would still hesitate to do trades with me anyway. I try to post often and quality material to build a positive reputation. There are a few people who have trusted me and they seem happy with the outcome. I am ranting.
To sum it all up: Ill be here to help and advise and learn for as long as I am welcome.
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cowsRmeat
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You should be close to marketplace access, if you don't have it already. Oh, no wait, I think it might be 3 or 6 months as well as the required post count...
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22006317 - 07/27/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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yea, Ive got 15 more days Ugh
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Oggy
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I'd love to participate in a seed thread. I have a lot of rarer wild strawberry seeds and a freaking ton of wild red and black raspberry seeds(these take some practice to germinate, still haven't got it down yet). But I don't think many people here would be too interested in those.
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: Oggy]
#22006575 - 07/27/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am interested in berries. I want to get a pineberry cultivar at some point.
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spaceman101
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OI believe a lot of the problem with the last one was someone might offer up something nice to trade "something like kratom seeds maybe" then someone would take that and offer up something like Vvv N. Rustica seeds vvV.
There is to much variance in ethno seed values "as compared to mushrooms which have very little differences in value" that it just doesn't really work From what I've seen in the last one.
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: spaceman101]
#22007427 - 07/27/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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2 weeks and I can trade
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naum



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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: spaceman101]
#22008567 - 07/28/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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spaceman101 said: OI believe a lot of the problem with the last one was someone might offer up something nice to trade "something like kratom seeds maybe" then someone would take that and offer up something like Vvv N. Rustica seeds vvV.
There is to much variance in ethno seed values "as compared to mushrooms which have very little differences in value" that it just doesn't really work From what I've seen in the last one.
Actually this isn't really a problem. Mushroom prints do have a lot of difference in value especially the exotic thread. Any well seeds like mushroom prints are free if you are a cultivator.
It might work if we restricted it to EG members where reputation matters more than the general Shroomery population, but somehow that seems exclusionist and like it wouldn't go over well.
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peyotillo
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: naum]
#22012302 - 07/28/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think that restricting it to EG members and linking it to posts made, time spent (like marketplace is) and maybe access based on personal application might take care of your problem
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: naum]
#22012338 - 07/28/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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naum said:
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spaceman101 said: OI believe a lot of the problem with the last one was someone might offer up something nice to trade "something like kratom seeds maybe" then someone would take that and offer up something like Vvv N. Rustica seeds vvV.
There is to much variance in ethno seed values "as compared to mushrooms which have very little differences in value" that it just doesn't really work From what I've seen in the last one.
Actually this isn't really a problem. Mushroom prints do have a lot of difference in value especially the exotic thread. Any well seeds like mushroom prints are free if you are a cultivator.
It might work if we restricted it to EG members where reputation matters more than the general Shroomery population, but somehow that seems exclusionist and like it wouldn't go over well.
I like that. However, even when I help people and they thank me, no one seems to take the time to fill out reputation. Ive got a single rep from Prismism because he welcomed me to the forum-its not even for my valuable knowledge :/
I have two weeks til I can get in the marketplace. Wouldn't a free seed thread be better placed there? Restrictions are already in place to access the market.
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spaceman101
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kosmokratorshaman said:
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naum said:
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spaceman101 said: OI believe a lot of the problem with the last one was someone might offer up something nice to trade "something like kratom seeds maybe" then someone would take that and offer up something like Vvv N. Rustica seeds vvV.
There is to much variance in ethno seed values "as compared to mushrooms which have very little differences in value" that it just doesn't really work From what I've seen in the last one.
Actually this isn't really a problem. Mushroom prints do have a lot of difference in value especially the exotic thread. Any well seeds like mushroom prints are free if you are a cultivator.
It might work if we restricted it to EG members where reputation matters more than the general Shroomery population, but somehow that seems exclusionist and like it wouldn't go over well.
I like that. However, even when I help people and they thank me, no one seems to take the time to fill out reputation. Ive got a single rep from Prismism because he welcomed me to the forum-its not even for my valuable knowledge :/
I have two weeks til I can get in the marketplace. Wouldn't a free seed thread be better placed there? Restrictions are already in place to access the market.
Hey buddy I've really enjoyed having you around here and would actually like to get to know you. I need to toss you a rating because I've meant to for awhile now.
Here in EBG no one really seems to pay much attention to General ratings from what I've seen. I also do not often leave general ratings because I fell the respect I give and receive on the boards is really good enough
Hit me up if you want kosmo buddy
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: spaceman101]
#22013411 - 07/29/15 05:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks. I appreciate it. I wasnt trying to get acknowledgement, was trying to point out the flaw in one idea. Makes me feel good that people care.
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spaceman101
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I knew what you meant buddy I just had been meaning to for a while now so seeing your message reminded me that I'd forgot again.
Keep up the great work buddy and I would love to see the thread resurrected with maybe some new rules.
I would love to see it maybe stickied to the top of the EBG forum so as not to really bring unwanted trading onto the boards but only into that 1 thread.
I don't know if this would sound good to you guys but it's just a thought.
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Oggy
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: spaceman101]
#22014334 - 07/29/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The only way to see if it will work is to try it!
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: Oggy]
#22014730 - 07/29/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oggy said: The only way to see if it will work is to try it!
I agree. We can dialogue all day on it
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morbiddoctor
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Do it
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: morbiddoctor]
#22016093 - 07/29/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do it, Do it
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spaceman101
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I guess it's worth giving it another go around.
We need to contact karode, Mostly and naum to see if they would allow us to start a stickie thread or something like that in EBG.
We wouldn't turn down others that don't spend a lot of time in EG but being in here I really think it would be a lot better and more reliable.
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: spaceman101]
#22016680 - 07/29/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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And your front son
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modern.shaman
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The main issue I remember with the free seed thread is it would die from someone taking advantage of an the last ^^^^ and offer crappy/generic/cheap seeds. Here in the garden it may work as I'm sure people may even want veg/flower/uncommon seeds and not just actives.
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: modern.shaman]
#22016891 - 07/29/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok. So we have a lot of interest and support. We just need approval and we can start.
Naum, what say you? Can we have a stickied "Free Seed Thread?"
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: peyotillo]
#22016904 - 07/29/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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peyotillo said: I think that restricting it to EG members and linking it to posts made, time spent (like marketplace is) and maybe access based on personal application might take care of your problem
This
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karode13
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I'm not really keen on the idea of having a trading thread in this forum. There's already a marketplace where anybody can set up a trading thread with stipulations, regulations and all that. This forum is about information, not trading.
I don't know what the other mods think about this so I'll let them chime in with their thoughts. I'm not totally opposed but you'll need a decent argument to convince me. What's been proposed isn't enough. All of that can be done in the marketplace.
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spaceman101
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: karode13]
#22017458 - 07/29/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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modern.shaman said: The main issue I remember with the free seed thread is it would die from someone taking advantage of an the last ^^^^ and offer crappy/generic/cheap seeds. Here in the garden it may work as I'm sure people may even want veg/flower/uncommon seeds and not just actives.

You said it way better than me buddy
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karode13 said: I'm not really keen on the idea of having a trading thread in this forum. There's already a marketplace where anybody can set up a trading thread with stipulations, regulations and all that. This forum is about information, not trading.
I don't know what the other mods think about this so I'll let them chime in with their thoughts. I'm not totally opposed but you'll need a decent argument to convince me. What's been proposed isn't enough. All of that can be done in the marketplace.
I love the EG the way it is. After being here for so long I've learned to appreciate some of the rules and restrictions we have here to keep things smooth and in line.
Although I do believe a free seed or trade thread would be a nice thing to have if it was restricted to the EBG community "bypassing all the bullshit of the marketplace" I'm not a good with debates and the ways I express my views are far from eliquate enough to persuade karode so I'm gonna leave it for someone else to attempt.
Good luck to who ever's brave enough to try
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: karode13]
#22018272 - 07/30/15 03:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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karode13 said: I'm not really keen on the idea of having a trading thread in this forum. There's already a marketplace where anybody can set up a trading thread with stipulations, regulations and all that. This forum is about information, not trading.
I don't know what the other mods think about this so I'll let them chime in with their thoughts. I'm not totally opposed but you'll need a decent argument to convince me. What's been proposed isn't enough. All of that can be done in the marketplace.
This pretty much sums up my thoughts about this too. The marketplace is where this could/should be run, it already has rules/regulations and mods in place.
When this came up a few years ago, Cactusdan made some good points:
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Cactusdan said: I'm for a link to the marketplace version in the EG, but against it being in the EG.
I needn't remind everyone the kind of posts we got in the "Salvia divinorum Live Plant Market"
One time posters registering to say "I want one!!!!!"
Although we can post all the rules we want at the top, the fact remains that noobs and older members alike can have a seeming disregard or aversion to them.
I think that trading threads should be kept in the trading arena, to reduce this, and moving it here is just catering to impatience to gain access to the marketplace.
Especially the last one.
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#22018380 - 07/30/15 05:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I will just wait 13 more days to be allowed in the marketplace.
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oontribe

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Would be awsome iam a new grower, experienced with mushroom but not plants...something like that would be a great aid for me.
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spaceman101
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Re: revive the free seed thread on market plant? [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#22019305 - 07/30/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cactusdan said: I'm for a link to the marketplace version in the EG, but against it being in the EG.
I needn't remind everyone the kind of posts we got in the "Salvia divinorum Live Plant Market"
One time posters registering to say "I want one!!!!!"
Although we can post all the rules we want at the top, the fact remains that noobs and older members alike can have a seeming disregard or aversion to them.
I think that trading threads should be kept in the trading arena, to reduce this, and moving it here is just catering to impatience to gain access to the marketplace.
Especially the last one.
After reading this I feel I have to agree. Sorry guys
If any of you would like you could easily start a thread in the MP and add rules as you'd like. It may work this time.
I'll back any of you if you decide to do this. I have a large seed collection so I'll pop in here and there to add something interesting.
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