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OfflineDelirious Dwemer
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33 mg of melatonin
    #22002570 - 07/27/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Still does nothing for me. My insomnia is so extreme.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer]
    #22002575 - 07/27/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I coulda sworn I read somewhere that taking more than recommended can actually have backwards effects

Could be wrong on that though, but it'd explain it.

I've personally had mixed results from melatonin but overall it's helped. I have found some nights where it seemed to keep me away & or do nothing.
I don't take it often though.

Dreams are always unbelievable on it though which is really more of the reason I take it than to actually help me sleep.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #22002582 - 07/27/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It used to work long long ago, I've  tried mcg doses and larger doses. Tonight is the most I have ever taken. I figured I'd  give it a shot again since it's  been forever. It's  been 3 hours.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer] * 1
    #22002588 - 07/27/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sitting infront of a computer screen certainly ain't helpin' ya


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #22002599 - 07/27/15 01:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm  on my phone, in bed. Which I didn't  touch until now cause I'm  bored/restless and I must distract myself from tinnitus.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer] * 1
    #22002606 - 07/27/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

From what I've read, melatonin isn't just some magical sleep aid. It only works for very specific circumstances. Melatonin won't do anything for me at all. Melatonin supplements aren't meant to make you sleep, they are to regulate sleep. If you tend to go to bed very late and can't seem to break that habit, but sleep a normal amount of time when you do sleep, then it may work to help regulate you to a more normal schedule.

People like me with full blown insomnia are shit out of luck. My natural sleep pattern is something like stay up 30-36 hours, sleep 2-3 hours, stay up 30-36 hours, sleep 2-3 hours, etc. Give or take (usually give) a few hours of the awake period.

Only thing that puts me on an even somewhat normal sleeping schedule is high doses of medication.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22002609 - 07/27/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah that stuff just gives me wacked out dreams once I manage to fall asleep which reminds me I've had sandra bullock show up in my dreams 2 of the last three nights.  I wonder what that's all about..


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22002616 - 07/27/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I can never sleep at night, a few hours in the day of shitty sleep, and then often phases of 0-3 hours. Large amounts of Reishi,kava,Valerian, mixed with a few bowls of good weed have worked in the past some. Or xanax and opiates ,but tolerance and abuse. Fuck.

I just remembered I had a dream that some weird unattractive chick was asking to lick my asshole this morning. what


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer]
    #22003193 - 07/27/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I take 5 mg's melatonin and Valerian root an hour before bed.  If I still have trouble I will take up to 3 Benadryl.

High dosing Melatonin (over 5 mg's) will have no more of an effect.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: RobZombie68]
    #22003233 - 07/27/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ive had some great lucid dreaming and been able to easily put my self into a great state of sleep paralysis by combining 7g kratom, 3mg melatonin, 500mg valerian, and 110mg DPH (benedryl). Literally can just close my eyes and am in dream land within a minute or two.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer]
    #22003241 - 07/27/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Delirious Dwemer said:
Still does nothing for me. My insomnia is so extreme.





Melatonin only works for sleep if the brain is lacking melatonin.  If you are depleted of it, the supplement is useless.  Try chamomile, valerian root, and a benadryl.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer]
    #22003319 - 07/27/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

From your dosage listed, I'm assuming you took 11x3mg tablets. That wont hit you as fast as a capsule. I get 10mg caps from CVS that work better than any tab I've ever taken. They have buy one get one deals all the time and that's the only time I buy. I don't need to get it online considering my local store has them in stock consistently. Probably because I'm the only one who buys that high of a strength.
http://www.cvs.com/shop/vitamins/supplements/melatonin/cvs-ultra-strength-melatonin-10-mg-capsules-skuid-728624


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22003366 - 07/27/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I took 2 capsules and 9 dissolve tabs of 3mg.Yeah it doesn't  do shit at any dose for me. Benadryl has always been awful and makes me super irritable and even more restless. All the little herbs have lost effectiveness. I've  got to get a shit ton of kava,reishi,kratom,chamomile, valerian and dabs when i have the money. That combo should do the trick, for a little while. Just expensive to keep up because I use a lot.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22003372 - 07/27/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You can try that new EmergenZZZ it's got melatonin and a bunch of other shit in it to promote sleep. I've used it a few times with good results. When I take the regular pills I honestly just got a headache but it also depends on how tired you are. It isn't like it's ambien.

My friend who does no drugs at all besides drink a lot uses it every night and almost makes it seem like it's the best sleep aide around. shit honestly sucks alone. rather rely on tic tacks then stand alone melatonin lmao.

My best OTC sleep aide is the generic zzquil from the dollar store. They randomly carry the DXM/doxyalamine kind sometimes but recently it's just been fucking the same but with apap. I use benadryl sometimes but it gives me restless legs and weird ass feeling.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer]
    #22003413 - 07/27/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah I took 2 capsules and 9 dissolve tabs of 3mg.Yeah it doesn't  do shit at any dose for me. Benadryl has always been awful and makes me super irritable and even more restless. All the little herbs have lost effectiveness. I've  got to get a shit ton of kava,reishi,kratom,chamomile, valerian and dabs when i have the money. That combo should do the trick, for a little while. Just expensive to keep up because I use a lot.




I messed around taking everything listed above except the kratom, and I just broke down and saw my doc and I didn't have insurance. I suggested Trazadone because one of the psychiatrists mentioned it in rehab, and except for the nasal congestion it worked like a charm. It was less than $10 a month out of pocket at the pharmacy. All this considering you have insurance or at least a doc who can write you a script that will allow you numerous refills before another appointment. Playing the insomnia game is horrible and it will scramble your brains.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer]
    #22003474 - 07/27/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Exhausting physical activity is probably the best thin for a good night of sleep.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22003484 - 07/27/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Exhausting physical activity is probably the best thin for a good night of sleep.



This

I would try GHB if you are looking into the realm of drugs to solve your problems

But overall, I think your best bets would be cleaning up your diet, water, caffiene intake, increasing excercise and possibly even yoga/meditation

I used to take 10-20mg of melatonin daily but when I began doing more "healthnut" type stuff my sleep began to correct itself. I dont need drugs to sleep (tho I often enjoy them :tongue:)


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: RobZombie68]
    #22004001 - 07/27/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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High dosing Melatonin (over 5 mg's) will have no more of an effect.




This.  Took too long for someone to say it.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: abltsandwich]
    #22004552 - 07/27/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Someone told me once that the less melatonin you take the more of the effect.
Sounds weird to me so just take 1 mg and if not just buy velarian or passion flower or something. Or just do some real drugs.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: abltsandwich]
    #22004801 - 07/27/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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High dosing Melatonin (over 5 mg's) will have no more of an effect.




This.  Took too long for someone to say it.



Thats crazy. I actually didn't know that. I notcied that higher doses made me more tired the next morning and that was really all


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer]
    #22005105 - 07/27/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Melatonin is not a sedative. It won't help you sleep in the way you think. If only helps if you are deficient in melatonin ofherwise it won't help at all.

Try valerian root ,
It actually will sedate you and help you sleep.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22005664 - 07/27/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's funny how melatonin has wildly different effects for different people.  I rarely have trouble sleeping and if I do 1 mg of it will knock me out cold.  Doesn't work at all for my girlfriend or brother.  There seems to be a lot of misinformation out there about it too.

Also in my experience 1mg works much better then taking 5mg.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22007665 - 07/28/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It really depends on the sleep schedule issue your having. Say you want to get to bed early one night and you normally go to bed at 11pm but you want to be asleep by 9pm. It will help in that respect because all it really does is speed up your natural sleep clock.

If you are flat out on a fucked up sleep schedule and are trying to sedate yourself to induce sleep it won't work like that. That is why I believe it doesn't work for many. I have had it work and not work because of both different cases.

Another thing to note is all natural melatonin comes from cow brains so I'd go with the synthetic stuff.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer]
    #22007697 - 07/28/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Still does nothing for me. My insomnia is so extreme.



Check your urine pH. If it's 6.2 or below, try taking baking soda to raise it up to around 6.5 - 7. (You need to take the baking soda in between meals - like 2 hours after or 2 hours before eating). Also, inositol is good. It's sweet tasting. You can take alot of it with no problems - like 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon every 20 minutes. Lecithin is good also (it has inositol in it). A tablespoon of the soy granules is good. Then there's calcium, magnesium, and vitamin D. Vitamin D recommendations are 3000 - 5000 units. If you're eating alot of sugar, that can cause insomnia (and panic attacks).


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer]
    #22007897 - 07/28/15 02:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm  on my phone, in bed. Which I didn't  touch until now cause I'm  bored/restless and I must distract myself from tinnitus.



Cell phone's (unlike computer monitors) are actually proven to help speed up the sleep process, so keep doing what ur doing and you'll be asleep in no time.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #22008574 - 07/28/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I hate to sound like a hippie on this one but Delirious Dwemer, I would suggest acupunture for your ear ringing. It worked WONDERS for me


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: topdog82]
    #22008626 - 07/28/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Acupuncture is fully legit .

The main benefit of melatonin is its antioxidant power not sleep.

It protects you from radiation as well.

It's a uniquely potent antioxidant .

For sleep / insomnia - zzquil works well but can only be used occasionally .

Valerian is great, like a natural benzo. So is kava.

L theanine, pharmagaba, California poppy. Also worth a try .

Also raw cacao, chamomile tea...


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22010001 - 07/28/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I totally believe in ayurvedic healing. Somthing I want to get back into when I have a better income.

The urine p.h. testing sounds interesting. I will try that. I took 50,000 iu of vitamin D The other day and I feel a little more alive. I forget the nutrition aspect, I used to be on top of that but now I can't afford much food so I go to bed starving. I used to maintain a very healthy lifestyle with excercise,yoga, healthy diet and ayurveda which made a significant difference, but i stopped due to lack of funds. Lack of food =lack of excercise. That is something i must find a way to get back to.

That is interesting about Melatonin. One thing I didn't  know.

I had a masturbate a thon last night and got some decent sleep after. Sometimes I just really need to cum 12 times.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer]
    #22010026 - 07/28/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Intense outdoor exercise in sun and fresh air during the day equals good sleep at night.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer]
    #22010031 - 07/28/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

dab indica till you fall over mate
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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Perusha_Kyuden]
    #22010061 - 07/28/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ahh I know, that's the remedy.

Also yes I understand I must get back to exercising, but since I'm  too broke to afford enough food or dabs, currently, I literally can't expend that much energy. So really it's a proscess to get back there.
I have to move this august to have a better income, so I can afford a better lifestyle. So all in due time I guess.


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Perusha_Kyuden]
    #22010089 - 07/28/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer]
    #22025248 - 07/31/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I totally believe in ayurvedic healing. Somthing I want to get back into when I have a better income.

The urine p.h. testing sounds interesting. I will try that. I took 50,000 iu of vitamin D The other day and I feel a little more alive. I forget the nutrition aspect, I used to be on top of that but now I can't afford much food so I go to bed starving. I used to maintain a very healthy lifestyle with excercise,yoga, healthy diet and ayurveda which made a significant difference, but i stopped due to lack of funds. Lack of food =lack of excercise. That is something i must find a way to get back to.

That is interesting about Melatonin. One thing I didn't  know.

I had a masturbate a thon last night and got some decent sleep after. Sometimes I just really need to cum 12 times.



Regarding not being able to afford food, just a few quick tips; Eggs, organs, rice and veggies are dirt cheap. Hopefully that helps, because I lived off those breifly. Being a broke healthnut can indeed happen. Grass fed butter as well as the previously mentioned foods are afforadable yet calorie dense and almost dirt cheap

Also; I am actually quite interested in auyurveda. I have had acupuncture many times and felt a difference. If you have any links to specific books for an intro to auyurveda that would be nice


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: topdog82]
    #22027959 - 08/01/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've learned a majority of what I know just by doing research.
YouTube also is a great place to learn about herbalism/ayurveda.

Thanks for the tips :biggrin:
Here are the books I own so far:
Illustrated Encyclopedia of Healing Remedies https://www.amazon.com/dp/0007851375/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_Q4pVvbQ4BDQ3C

Ancient Healing Secrets: Pracitical Cures from Egypt, China, India, South America, Russia, Sandinavia, and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/1579124631/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_J2pVvbCC4WG6Y

The Encyclopedia of Essential Oils: The Complete Guide to the Use of Aromatic Oils In Aromatherapy, Herbalism, Health, and Well Being https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CUUIODI/ref=aw_ss_kndl_dp/


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Re: 33 mg of melatonin [Re: Delirious Dwemer]
    #22028216 - 08/01/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I've learned a majority of what I know just by doing research.
YouTube also is a great place to learn about herbalism/ayurveda.

Thanks for the tips :biggrin:
Here are the books I own so far:
Illustrated Encyclopedia of Healing Remedies https://www.amazon.com/dp/0007851375/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_Q4pVvbQ4BDQ3C

Ancient Healing Secrets: Pracitical Cures from Egypt, China, India, South America, Russia, Sandinavia, and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/1579124631/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_J2pVvbCC4WG6Y

The Encyclopedia of Essential Oils: The Complete Guide to the Use of Aromatic Oils In Aromatherapy, Herbalism, Health, and Well Being https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CUUIODI/ref=aw_ss_kndl_dp/



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