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BlackWidow

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Konyap

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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: BlackWidow]
#22001963 - 07/26/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Please don't ban the voodoo powder The jungle spirits would be very displeased
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: Konyap]
#22002851 - 07/27/15 04:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What a shame. Anyone who has taken both kratom and true opiates knows that kratom is a million times safer.
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: LSDaytripper]
#22003415 - 07/27/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's a war on personal freedom. Healthcare is big buisness and they encourage suffering.
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: Morel Guy] 2
#22003538 - 07/27/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kratom sucks. It's just awful. Nothing like being in pain, and trying to take something to relieve it, and then missing the dosage and getting sped out and jittery. Not too mention puking green sand, and shitting green sand on a constipated belly suck. It may be safer then opiates, but it's about as effective as gas station toilet paper......like it works.....but it's cheap and almost worthless, and terrible on your butthole.
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: vandago]
#22003590 - 07/27/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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vandago said: Kratom sucks. It's just awful. Nothing like being in pain, and trying to take something to relieve it, and then missing the dosage and getting sped out and jittery. Not too mention puking green sand, and shitting green sand on a constipated belly suck. It may be safer then opiates, but it's about as effective as gas station toilet paper......like it works.....but it's cheap and almost worthless, and terrible on your butthole.
da fuck kind of kratom have you been eating
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22003833 - 07/27/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said:
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vandago said: Kratom sucks. It's just awful. Nothing like being in pain, and trying to take something to relieve it, and then missing the dosage and getting sped out and jittery. Not too mention puking green sand, and shitting green sand on a constipated belly suck. It may be safer then opiates, but it's about as effective as gas station toilet paper......like it works.....but it's cheap and almost worthless, and terrible on your butthole.
da fuck kind of kratom have you been eating
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What are the effects? Kratom is a rather unique drug in that a low to moderate dose will usually (but not always) be stimulating, while a high dose is almost always quite sedating. This is apparently because the active alkaloids have both stimulant and sedative effects. Which predominates probably depends both on dosage and individual differences between users. Many people report that the effects are very similar to opiate drugs. From a pharmacological perspective this is not surprising because kratom contains alkaloids that act as opiate receptor agonists. Interestingly, although kratom has a similar mechanism of action as many opiate pain medications it does not appear to be nearly as addictive. In fact many people use kratom to overcome opiate addiction.
The stimulant level: At the stimulant level the mind is more alert, physical energy and sometimes sexual energy is increased, ability to do hard monotonous physical work may be improved, one is more talkative, friendly, and sociable. Some people find this level edgy rather than pleasant.
The sedative-euphoric-analgesic level: At this dosage you will be less sensitive to physical or emotional pain, feel and look calm, have a general feeling of comfortable pleasure, and may enter a pleasant dreamy reverie. You may experience some itching or sweating. Your pupils may be constricted (small). It is possible you may feel nauseated, but if you lie down and relax the nausea should quickly cease. You may find your appreciation of music is increased. It will be very pleasant to lie down on your back in a semi-darkened room, with eyes closed, and just listen to your favorite music. If you do this you may be fortunate enough to enter the delightful mixed-state of ‘waking-dreaming’ where you have one foot in dreamland and the other foot in the real world. This state was much prized by the 19th century Romantic writers, who, lacking knowledge of kratom, resorted to the much more habit-forming narcotic, opium, to achieve it.
The same kind as everyone else.
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: vandago]
#22003857 - 07/27/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I guess if you're trying to compare iv heroin to kratom then yes but I think it's an amazingly useful substance with minimal side effects. I've never puked or shit green sand
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: Rebelutionsssss] 1
#22003933 - 07/27/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Green sand = ground up plant matter.
I've had like 6-7 different strains, thinking maybe I was just getting the wrong stuff. At best I would get a mild nod like feeling and an itch....it never agreed with my stomache.
Anyone who tried it I knew IRL, mine or theirs, had upset stomache symptoms. I would vomit if I ate anything on it, and when the plant matter came up it was so dry and awful......the stuff does not wash down with anything. I tried every prep method I could think of......spaghetti sauce, coffee, tea, parachuting, pill capsules, milk, water, you name it......it tastes so rank and just floats on whatever you mix it with, gets stuck on the inside of your mouth, or you have like 15 gel caps in your stomache.
It's a lame "drug" and an even lamer substitute for opiates when the user is in dire need of pain relief. Like I said.....shitty toilet.
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: vandago]
#22003978 - 07/27/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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^ ymmv. It's not for everyone man. The first time i had it, i experienced similar problems. But i found some that worked for me and my opinion changed.
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: morbiddoctor]
#22004009 - 07/27/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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morbiddoctor said: ^ ymmv. It's not for everyone man. The first time i had it, i experienced similar problems. But i found some that worked for me and my opinion changed.
Well obviously it worked for me. It just sucked. I was on probation and bored out of my mind so I was dabbling in it to see if it was even worth the effort. It's not. The high is not equal to the lengths to use, or the side effects. And all the "Maybes, should haves, supposed to, usually" effects....I don't even see how opiate addicts can use it to get off opiates.....how do you eat a pile of green powder when you are dope sick?
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: vandago]
#22004017 - 07/27/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Whoa dude if ur taking 15 gel caps that's like way more than what I have to take to feel the effects. Which is one cap. I took 2 once and I couldn't fall asleep Cuz I was so jittery. Can't imaging taking much more than that.
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: Mind-Rip]
#22004027 - 07/27/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mind-Rip said: Whoa dude if ur taking 15 gel caps that's like way more than what I have to take to feel the effects. Which is one cap. I took 2 once and I couldn't fall asleep Cuz I was so jittery. Can't imaging taking much more than that.
You probably trip balls from a huge bong rip too.
And also.....you made taking even one cap sound shitty so....
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: vandago]
#22004040 - 07/27/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Again it's not going to cure a 10 bag a day dope habit but it definitely will help someone who's in the begging stages of an opiate addiction. If you're so addicted you're shitting and rolling around in a pool of your own sweat Kratoms not going to do much good until you ride out the begging of your withdrawals. It will cure the emptiness and some cravings once you're past that. Kratom is extremely useful and I find one good spoonful is easy as shit to take down with just water and helps extremely with cravings( as long as you're not crazy addicted to herion that is)
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22004172 - 07/27/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Take it mixed in with Yogurt. It's a truly, truly amazing plant IMO, although it does come with it's own set of PAWS if used frequently enough. Not as bad as true opiate PAWS, but uncomfortable none the less.
Sounds like big pharma is pulling the strings on this.
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22004207 - 07/27/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: Again it's not going to cure a 10 bag a day dope habit but it definitely will help someone who's in the begging stages of an opiate addiction. If you're so addicted you're shitting and rolling around in a pool of your own sweat Kratoms not going to do much good until you ride out the begging of your withdrawals. It will cure the emptiness and some cravings once you're past that. Kratom is extremely useful and I find one good spoonful is easy as shit to take down with just water and helps extremely with cravings( as long as you're not crazy addicted to herion that is)
If you gag while doing that, and inhale that green dust, beware of extreme discomfort. Also, do you ever get the relentless non stop hiccups on kratom?
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: vandago]
#22004221 - 07/27/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea but that's why you have to hold your breath for a few seconds while you take it down. I agree inhaling a tiny bit sucks dick but just take a few deep breaths before you do the wash and toss. And no I' have yet to have hicups on kratom
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: vandago]
#22004260 - 07/27/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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the stuff does not wash down with anything. I tried every prep method I could think of......spaghetti sauce, coffee, tea, parachuting, pill capsules, milk, water, you name it......it tastes so rank and just floats on whatever you mix it with, gets stuck on the inside of your mouth, or you have like 15 gel caps in your stomache.
Your making me feel sorry for you. Just put it in a water bottle add cold water and shake for a couple seconds. Tilt back your head hold your nose and chug it down and its over. Take a bite of something tasty to get the flavor out of your mouth.
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: Love_spirit] 1
#22004267 - 07/27/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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For me kratom floats to the top when I try and mix it. a little will mix in the water but then there's a layer of like damp kratom that just sits at the top. Toss and wash has always worked perfect for me. Easy and done in 5 seconds
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Re: An excuse for crushing kratom (Washington Times) [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22004456 - 07/27/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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cum on
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