|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
JP5082
Stranger


Registered: 12/13/13
Posts: 331
Last seen: 7 years, 5 months
|
PE vs other cubes
#22001111 - 07/26/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I have been intrigued by the PE strain for a while now and finally have come across some spores from a reliable vendor.
Is the process of cultivation for a PE strain different than other cube strains? In the past I have put spore solution on agar, isolated growth, transferred to grain, then spawned to bulk. Am curious as to if a process like this could be successful for PEs
-------------------- An Expert in Anything Was Once a Beginner
|
Bill_Oreilly
ANIMALS (the RAINBOW SERPENT)


Registered: 11/12/11
Posts: 26,370
Loc: Boston
|
Re: PE vs other cubes [Re: JP5082]
#22001125 - 07/26/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
All cubensis are the same, besides PE with the potency.
Do whatever you would do with PE as you would reg cubes.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
|
eatyualive
Eat's You Alive :)



Registered: 08/17/01
Posts: 19,026
Loc: In Your Head
|
|
APE, KSS, KSS albino are very different from most cubes. even the albino pf classic looks alien.
|
Dr.Satan
Mad Professor



Registered: 06/26/15
Posts: 2,182
|
|
All the cube strains are the same to cultivate the only difference in the strains is appearance and in some cases potency/growth rate.
--------------------

|
KauaiOrca
Waterman


Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 3,131
|
Re: PE vs other cubes [Re: JP5082]
#22001337 - 07/26/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
JP5082 said: I have been intrigued by the PE strain for a while now and finally have come across some spores from a reliable vendor.
Is the process of cultivation for a PE strain different than other cube strains? In the past I have put spore solution on agar, isolated growth, transferred to grain, then spawned to bulk. Am curious as to if a process like this could be successful for PEs
I'm in the middle of my first attempt with PE and my experience is, from a fruiting perspective, be patient. I've also heard, but can't verify for sure, that it responds better to casing than not ... I've got 6 different muda bottles going with it and the ones I cased are pinning quite a bit sooner.
-------------------- "The universe is endless, limitless and infinite. Any effort to define it's boundaries is an attempt to overcome ignorance. We are physical, mental and spiritual beings ... there is no beginning and there is no end. There is only memory. Our repeated loss of memory experiences create the illusion of beginnings and ends. Immortality is the ability to retain full memory through all consciousness transformations. Loss of memory is man's greatest curse and, in very real terms, death." -- Ancient Taoist Master
|
eatyualive
Eat's You Alive :)



Registered: 08/17/01
Posts: 19,026
Loc: In Your Head
|
Re: PE vs other cubes [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22001363 - 07/26/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
pe are slower than most cube varieties. slower to colonize, slower to fruit. but they pack a punch. definitely worth the wait. you are correct when you say "be patient". ape and peu are also like this as well.
id say ape can be even slower. ive had times where ape took 3 weeks to begin fruiting.
|
PussyFart
Retired Cultivation Extrodinaire



Registered: 04/08/12
Posts: 22,502
Loc: Orbiting Earth
Last seen: 17 days, 19 hours
|
|
Quote:
eatyualive said: pe are slower than most cube varieties. slower to colonize, slower to fruit.
I have not noticed any difference in colonization speed personally.
Fruiting speed yes, there is a huge difference.
--------------------
THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT! A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD, SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List, EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE *** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
|
Mad Season
hookers and blackjack



Registered: 09/16/12
Posts: 12,666
Loc: Canada
|
Re: PE vs other cubes [Re: PussyFart]
#22002074 - 07/26/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I got some aggressive af pe ms on agar right now. Definitely faster than my gts and aa+. Although it could be opposite next time I start from spores :/
|
Pastywhyte
Say hello to my little friend



Registered: 09/15/12
Posts: 37,810
Loc: Canada
|
|
Here is my two cents.
PE and co are cubes so they eat the same stuff and like the same environment.
They do better with casing layers but some people can do em well without. If you roll without expect blobs.
They really seem to like the FAE. They do far better if you can give em a little extra above what most cubes need. No this does not mean you can fan three times more a day. Dial it in.
They drink up the water, especially APE. Get your field capacity down proper.
Be patient. Pins take forever to show. I had PE take 3 weeks to pin and APE a solid month. Well worth it in the end.
|
Bill_Oreilly
ANIMALS (the RAINBOW SERPENT)


Registered: 11/12/11
Posts: 26,370
Loc: Boston
|
Re: PE vs other cubes [Re: PussyFart]
#22003004 - 07/27/15 06:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
PussyFart said:
Quote:
eatyualive said: pe are slower than most cube varieties. slower to colonize, slower to fruit.
I have not noticed any difference in colonization speed personally.
Fruiting speed yes, there is a huge difference.
My PE jars are flying right now. Pf jars were inoculated 2 weeks ago and they will be done tomorrow or the next day latest
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
|
36fuckin5
Alchemycologist


Registered: 08/11/03
Posts: 12,079
Loc: Diving into Mystical Territori...
|
Re: PE vs other cubes [Re: PussyFart]
#22004046 - 07/27/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Pastywhyte said: They drink up the water, especially APE. Get your field capacity down proper.
I don't think it's that they drink up the water, I think it's the slower fruiting that allows more evaporation. Either way you're 100% on with saying you need to have your moisture content down.
Quote:
PussyFart said: I have not noticed any difference in colonization speed personally.
Fruiting speed yes, there is a huge difference.
99% of the time my PE have been slower than most Cubes. PE6 being the exception, but I can't even find one that shows PE traits anymore. I've had one time where my PE wanted to be fast. Still took forever to pin.
-------------------- Redd Foxx said: If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more. Pat The Bunny said: A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me. bodhisatta said: i recommend common sense and figuring it out. These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
|
Aero
Orea


Registered: 11/01/13
Posts: 2,253
Last seen: 1 year, 2 months
|
|
Quote:
eatyualive said: pe are slower than most cube varieties. slower to colonize, slower to fruit. but they pack a punch. definitely worth the wait. you are correct when you say "be patient". ape and peu are also like this as well.
id say ape can be even slower. ive had times where ape took 3 weeks to begin fruiting.
never had problem with colonization, what differs is the pinning time, had tubs that started pinning after 1month being into the fruition phase.. but 1g dry was enough for 2 to have 4-5 hrs of laugh and light visuals
-------------------- SPREAD THE SPORES
|
Aero
Orea


Registered: 11/01/13
Posts: 2,253
Last seen: 1 year, 2 months
|
Re: PE vs other cubes [Re: Aero]
#22004490 - 07/27/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
extra time to consolidate seems to help with the pinning, consolidate till u see a few knots then introduce fruition. it will pin in a week, and this way its safer too. won't dry out no problems so far
-------------------- SPREAD THE SPORES
|
JP5082
Stranger


Registered: 12/13/13
Posts: 331
Last seen: 7 years, 5 months
|
Re: PE vs other cubes [Re: JP5082]
#22236740 - 09/14/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
So I have a couple tubs of PE going at this point
How long after fruiting should one expect to see pins? I am patient and in no rush, kinda just hoping to get a ballpark of how long it usually takes as this is my 1st time with PE and I still don't know what to expect
-------------------- An Expert in Anything Was Once a Beginner
|
PussyFart
Retired Cultivation Extrodinaire



Registered: 04/08/12
Posts: 22,502
Loc: Orbiting Earth
Last seen: 17 days, 19 hours
|
Re: PE vs other cubes [Re: JP5082]
#22236761 - 09/14/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
2-3 weeks
--------------------
THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT! A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD, SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List, EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE *** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
Edited by PussyFart (09/14/15 01:51 PM)
|
elasticaltiger
Like Tigers in Coitus




Registered: 06/24/13
Posts: 8,064
|
Re: PE vs other cubes [Re: PussyFart]
#22236820 - 09/14/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
PE Colonizes like regular cubensis.
It fruits about half the speed of a regular cube in my experience. Don't freak out if you don't see pins even after 14 days of full colonization of your bulk sub.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
|
Aero
Orea


Registered: 11/01/13
Posts: 2,253
Last seen: 1 year, 2 months
|
|
Quote:
elasticaltiger said: PE Colonizes like regular cubensis.
It fruits about half the speed of a regular cube in my experience. Don't freak out if you don't see pins even after 14 days of full colonization of your bulk sub.
2-3 weeks till pins and 4 isn't unheard. just patience and keep the fruition conditions up, don't let the sub dry out don't over water it and so on
-------------------- SPREAD THE SPORES
|
|