Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
InvisibleDividedQuantumM
Outer Head
Male User Gallery

Registered: 12/06/13
Posts: 9,819
actual civilization
    #22000771 - 07/26/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Any "civilized" nation should have a populace with access to:  free health care; any non-lethal substance one wishes, a subset of which would include clinics for the administration of, for example, heroin and certain other schedule I substances; any plant/fungus one chooses to cultivate and grow; free education for anyone who is interested, with attentiveness to the possibility of compensating students monetarily, which would be not only appropriate but also act as a mechanism for ensuring the presence of those who should be there and the absence of those who shouldn't; extremely limited campaign finance and fixed, tighter term limits on all politicians, ensuring a lack of corruption and true citizen service; a defense budget that is sensible but not out of control; a sensible tax code; and any number of other basic improvements that all citizens of planet Earth should have.  We would do well to stop all this very American self-congratulatory flag-waving and get down to thinking about things.

Does that make sense?


--------------------
Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSun King
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/15/14
Posts: 4,069
Re: actual civilization [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22000807 - 07/26/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

appearently there are no civilized nations and never will be.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleKhancious
da Crow
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/05/12
Posts: 628
Loc: Behind Everything
Re: actual civilization [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22000819 - 07/26/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Absolutely, and it seems like it would be so simple to implement as long as people were fluid in their thought patterns and perceptions...

I keep seeing politics as a game for 2 year olds who won't share toys

:scumbagsteve:


--------------------
I am that, which is.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleRahz
Alive Again
Male


Registered: 11/10/05
Posts: 9,230
Re: actual civilization [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22001089 - 07/26/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Does that make sense?




It makes sense but isn't practical. Don't forget there are humans involved...

For instance, this: We would do well to stop all this very American self-congratulatory flag-waving and get down to thinking about things.

What species are you hoping for us to be?

I'm more of a live and let live kind of guy. I see value in private charity which the state seeks to strangle with monopoly... though as that involves humans as well it's not entirely practical either, though it does seem to have more room for individual liberty. Idealism is great as long as you don't expect too much from it.


--------------------
rahz

comfort pleasure power love truth awareness peace


"You’re not looking close enough if you can only see yourself in people who look like you." —Ayishat Akanbi


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDividedQuantumM
Outer Head
Male User Gallery

Registered: 12/06/13
Posts: 9,819
Re: actual civilization [Re: Rahz]
    #22001135 - 07/26/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Oh I freely admit it's a pipe dream.  I'm just sort of putting it out there.  The strange part is that all it would take is for enough people to change their minds.  No amount of legislation, or attendant programs, could pull anything like that off.  The only thing that could is changed minds.  And people are pretty rigidly set in their ways, for the most part.


--------------------
Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineashfiken
TotalCrazyasshole
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/06/06
Posts: 3,073
Loc: SCranton
Last seen: 2 hours, 16 minutes
Re: actual civilization [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22001190 - 07/26/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yup sounds good to me. As rahz stated never a chance in reality but ,hey that's why the good ol shroomery is here least we can bang our heads against the wall together...

Cheers  :talkingtowall:


--------------------
hmm...

"I'm naked and fearless... And my fear is naked."

"life isn't worth living without the threat of death"

"I got my plans in a ziploc bag, let's see how unproductive we can be"

"nobody lives their lives fully except for bull fighters"

My Trade List


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDieCommie

Registered: 12/11/03
Posts: 29,258
Re: actual civilization [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22001232 - 07/26/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That is a very human and 21st century american way to view a broad category that encompasses thousands of years and scores of cultures (perhaps even species).  That is just the way you want our current society to be, its not reasonable expectation of "civilization" at all.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleKhancious
da Crow
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/05/12
Posts: 628
Loc: Behind Everything
Re: actual civilization [Re: DieCommie]
    #22001267 - 07/26/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

True, buts its some of the best you're gonna get if you're all about universalism, and personally i dont see civilization as a rejection (yes I know you didnt type rejection) of culture, but more of a product of culture(s) and with DQ's model, its a win for everyone.


--------------------
I am that, which is.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineusulpsychonaut
Male

Registered: 05/12/08
Posts: 2,814
Loc: Northland, New Zealand. Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
Re: actual civilization [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22013393 - 07/29/15 05:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am all for true civilization, I think psychology is about individuals becoming truly civilized by identifying totally with the other yet not losing the self. I'm not a believer but I am experimenting. At this point I desperately need to identify with some non cynical entities. Not even sure where to look. I'm not sure about health care though, why not let everyone reincarnate? Allot cheaper. I'd rather put all those resources toward space exploration. Health care for the worlds top STEM folks for sure, no need to waste it on everyone though.


Edited by usulpsychonaut (07/29/15 05:35 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* A Critique on American Spirit CosmicJokeM 1,436 7 10/16/01 11:02 PM
by StrangeDays
* native american indians
( 1 2 3 all )
COZMKSTRCHLD 6,785 49 01/08/02 12:37 AM
by Pynchon
* Yoga: not a substance, yet still a drug? whiterastahippie 2,199 14 07/26/02 12:41 PM
by PaleE
* Civilization silversoul7 1,323 16 01/30/04 08:55 AM
by kaiowas
* Drugs are a religon... It's a substance that never changes..
( 1 2 all )
whole9 2,256 25 09/28/05 10:28 AM
by MJF
* Million year old civilization found in Antarcticta! Baby_Hitler 1,172 16 12/08/03 10:39 PM
by whole9
* First Americans (it's PC for Injuns) Sclorch 1,971 16 10/06/02 10:25 AM
by MarkZero
* Birth of an American Terrorist HagbardCeline 974 13 09/18/03 02:59 PM
by MisterKite

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
503 topic views. 1 members, 14 guests and 4 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.027 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 14 queries.