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Skittles54
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Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions!
#22000746 - 07/26/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi, I've been interested in psychedelics for a few months now. A few weeks from now I'm going to be doing LSD for the first time with 4 of my closest friends. It is all of our first times with psychedelics besides 1, who had done shrooms. I'm not very nervous, but I do have a question about dosing. LSD is a little hard to find in my area. I finally found a connect, he is a trustworthy guy that went to HS with one of my friends. He gets them from someone for $20 a tab, and is not charging is more than $20 because he knows us. Because of the expensive cost each of us are only taking 1. He does assure that this is enough, and it's my first time so I don't need to push it. He says he has done them twice and He says they are 95% pure, which is my first question. What does this mean? I've been doing a lot of reading and none of the tabs seem to be measured in %s, but usually in ugs. Secondly, is 1 "95% pure" tab enough to blow us away? Thanks for all your responses ahead of time.
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: Skittles54] 1
#22000903 - 07/26/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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First off, he doesn't know the purity percentages. He can guess but he's very likely just trying impress you. You'd want to know the dosage of the tab in micrograms but the average tab has a dose of 50-100 micrograms. Sometimes 30-50 and sometimes 100-200 but that's rare, and almost always ten a piece
Sounds to me like he knows you won't know if it's real and is going to give ya 25i-nbome instead since it's a cheaper, more potent, synthetic chemical, and charging 20 because it will be intense for you either way
The way to tell is by taste, if it's real L it'll be almost tasteless besides maybe a light paper taste. If it's a synthetic chemical, it will be very bitter tasting and won't work if you swallow it, unlike L s d
It may be real or it may be the synthetic chemical that has caused many deaths at low doses So... if it's bitter, it's a spitter
Here's a link explaining the effects by dose and the erowid page on 25i-nbome since it's commonly sold as potent acid
https://www.reddit.com/r/LSD/comments/2hg6io/different_dosage_of_lsd_explained_from_20ug1500ug/
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ci_nbome/2ci_nbome.shtml
Welcome to shroomery (:
Edited by Weiliithinker (07/26/15 05:34 PM)
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: Skittles54]
#22000988 - 07/26/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The first thing I can explain is that you should only take information from friends with a grain of salt, especially one who is selling you something. Don't be afraid to ask him questions also, especially if you know him well. Ask if he knows the dosage per tab, if the tabs have a taste(I will explain this in a second), how long the trip lasted, how long it took on onset. Also find out if anyone you know has bought it from him an tried it. I don't mean to sound rude, but people in your position are the ones to typically get ripped off, so get informed on everything.
When you are given the tabs, you should notice some things about it. 1. It should be a 1/4" square. 2. It should be given to you in foil. LSD degrades in light, oxygen, and water. So if it isn't given to you in foil, then you should know for sure that it is degraded. 3. If you could do this, see if you are allowed to break off a tiny chunk of the tab to taste, if it numbs your tongue or tastes metallic, don't buy it.(Once again it will be explained later)
Also, purity of the LSD basically means that you will get less discomfort in your body during the trip because the chemical was extracted more properly. But purity doesn't correlate to strength. So, try to find out the dosage if possible, especially if you know people who have taken it before.
Ways to tell the tab is not LSD 1. It is bigger than 1/4" square. 2. It numbs your mouth or tastes metallic when you hold it in your mouth. 3. Gives you no effect if you swallow it instantly.(LSD will make you trip the same whether you hold the tab in your mouth or swallow it instantly) 4. If you notice the tab size being odd or get a metallic taste or numbing affect if you get a sample, don't hesitate backing out of that deal.
If it isn't LSD, it could possibly be a research chemical, the reason you shouldn't take a research chemical is because even though you can trip, you have no idea what you are taking, how much you are taking, how much it can take to overdose, etc. A common example of this fake LSD is 25i-NBOMe. Which numbs the mouth and tastes metallic. Some people are allergic, and many have taken a lot thinking it is LSD, and then they can overdose.
Also, if it is good LSD, it should blow you away if there is a lot in a tab, but no matter what, always prepare for the strongest dose possible, just so you don't get a bad trip from being caught off guard. Also, make sure you guys are in a safe place where nothing can go wrong for 14-16 hours.
I hope everything is as promised and you all enjoy your trip
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: TheCynicalKing]
#22001052 - 07/26/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not to bring this thread off topic but how is foil such a good way to store it? It doesn't seem like it would be airtight unless you really crumpled it and even then I don't think it would be, I'm also afraid of crushing the blotter if I do this. I usually just keep mine in matchboxes and they seem to be fine
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TheCynicalKing
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Foil obviously isn't the perfect way. Foil just helps keep most air away from it, and keep all light out, and moisture. I believe matchboxes would work as well, but I don't know how that would work longterm.
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: TheCynicalKing]
#22001784 - 07/26/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you for your responses. So would you say that there is a good chance it isn't LSD? I don't really know the general picture of what is on the streets.
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: Skittles54]
#22001837 - 07/26/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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There's so many people these days passing off research chemicals as LSD it's ridiculous. Luckily most of the people I know are honest in which one they're selling.
If you want to be really safe buy a test kit and you can tell - depending on the test - if there is or isn't LSD in it and if there are any other chemicals in there such as many research chemicals. You probably won't buy a kit - I don't personally ans most people won't, if it's bitter it's a spitter.
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: TheCynicalKing]
#22001917 - 07/26/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wrong. Purity has everything to do with strength. Contrary to the slew of BS that gets spewed all over this forum, purity doesn't effect the qualitative feeling of the trip. The impurities are not psychoactive. The same exact distribution of the same exact side effects were seen with Sandoz LSD back before the ban. The only way purity would cause a noticeable difference is it's laid without compensating for the impurities. In other words, 100 mics of 70% pure d-LSD is actually 70 mics of psychoactive LSD. One would need to compensate for this to get an actual 100 mic hit. On the flip side, someone could easily lay 20 tenpacks per gram of 99% pure LSD, and the doses would be ~50 mics, thus weaker. So really at the end if the day, as the consumer what's important is two things; knowing that what you have is LSD, and knowing what the subjective strength is. People are gonna rattle off microgram numbers that are gonna be bullshit. What you want to know is what people are experiencing off one hit, two hits, etc.
Get a test kit... Ehrlichs reagent. This tests for an indole ring, not LSD specifically, so it's not foolproof. However it will weed out a lot of bullshit. While there are ergoloid RCs, they're not exactly cheap & are in demand as is, so I doubt they're gonna be pushed out as LSD. Far as storage goes, it's not as unstable as most people make it out to be. I use plastic wrap, then foil -> in a book. It'll remain as potent as ever for years.
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: Dark_Star]
#22001975 - 07/26/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting. So hopefully 95% is a good sign. And I don't believe he's lying about having an amazing experience on one, after all, he's not making any money on the deal. He also has a friend that grows shrooms regularly so he's a good connect to have. Only $30 am 1/8th! Which is rare here, cheapest I've seen is $45.
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: Skittles54]
#22001990 - 07/26/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The majority of acid you'll run into openly is gonna be an RC. If you know the right people though, there is tons and tons of good acid out there.
you could always invest in a test kit, they are like 20 dollars and the results are nearly instant. If he's cool about it, he might even let you test a small corner of a tab. You only need a tiny, tiny edge.
Or you could ask him if it's LSD and not something else. "Acid" has taken a new meaning for anything on a blotter paper that makes you trip.
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: Skittles54]
#22002062 - 07/26/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Skittles54 said: he's not making any money on the deal.
I guaruntee you he is. No one is going to pay $20 a tab for multiple tabs. You said you're tripping with 4 people so he has atleast 5 tabs. That means he would have had to pay 100 for 5 tabs. He's either stupid and got completely ripped off or he's doubling his profits off you. There's a reason people buy drugs in bulk they get cheaper the more you buy.
Take in everything drug dealers say, and alot of times about half of what they say is true. Along with the purity I guaruntee you he's either made that up or someone along the line did and it'd just been passed down
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Skittles54
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Quote:
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Skittles54 said: he's not making any money on the deal.
I guaruntee you he is. No one is going to pay $20 a tab for multiple tabs. You said you're tripping with 4 people so he has atleast 5 tabs. That means he would have had to pay 100 for 5 tabs. He's either stupid and got completely ripped off or he's doubling his profits off you. There's a reason people buy drugs in bulk they get cheaper the more you buy.
Take in everything drug dealers say, and alot of times about half of what they say is true. Along with the purity I guaruntee you he's either made that up or someone along the line did and it'd just been passed down
He isn't, I know this because he doesn't have the tabs already. He's connecting me to the guy that has them. He didn't buy in bulk for resale. And he also is trying to get me a deal on 5 tabs. So technically the guy that is his connect is my dealer. Haha. He is a very nice guy, and I'm not naive. I'm talking the kind of guy that meditates in his backyard nice. I went to a fire at his house once to smoke with him and the whole time he talked about the layout for his Zen Garden he's putting in his backyard. It actually killed me it was so funny. He said "it'll be beautiful man" at least 10 times. He also is my roommates ex boyfriend and he still likes her so, hopefully that helps. Hahaha.
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: Skittles54]
#22002245 - 07/26/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not every town has an abundant supply of LSD, making $20 a viable, yet unfortunate price where I am at.
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: Skittles54]
#22002254 - 07/26/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I honestly don't know if I'd pay 20$ a tab though. I only get a chance to get it every couple months or less. I feel so bad for you guys if 20 is the going rate for lsd in your town
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LSD is super rare(if you don't know the right people) in a lot of places. 20 dollars is actually a going rate in my area if you are just getting random connects. Even then though, it's usually NBOME.
If you have the right connection, getting acid is easy and cheap. I can get a 10 strip for around 45-50 dollars.
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: Achillita]
#22002327 - 07/26/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would kill for a 10 strip for $45
*figure of speech*
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: Skittles54]
#22002362 - 07/26/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's around 5 bucks a tab here(for a whole sheet). I'd say the high prices could be cause its super illegal. I have a fifty percent chance of just getting a ticket and going home if I get caught with weed. I would certainly go to jail for lsd though.
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: Matt87]
#22003141 - 07/27/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay, first make sure it's real like everyone else said. Also 20 bucks is expensive. I could understand 10 or 15, but 20? If it's nbome, I wouldn't pay more than 5. Fuck. Ask him about the taste, and how long the trip lasts. Should last more than 6 hours.
Also don't trust dosages or any other bullshit dealers say unless you know the person making it, or you order off a DNM.
If you have experience with other substances, I would say take around 2 tabs. Take 1 or 1 and a half, I recommend 1 and a half, but that's my recommendation. If you are unsure take just one, but I wish I had taken more than 1 when I first did it, since I did not get much out of it.
Do it in a place you can relax at, have some water, food, and fun things. Look at erowid too.
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: DRu1D]
#22003231 - 07/27/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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you should have a good time. acid is a very fun time. just go in with a good mindset and good vibes. have some weed on hand if yer a toker.
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Re: Doing LSD for the first time, have a few questions! [Re: sanchothestoner]
#22003992 - 07/27/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude, just try it... if it's bitter it's a spitter.
Good luck!
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