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Leviticus969



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Contams affecting future grows
#22000491 - 07/26/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quick question for yall. I've heard of contams affecting future grows but what exactly does that mean?
Like does it mean while inoculating your jars in that contaminated room, your jars will be contammed right off the bat or does it mean the mycelium growth in the jars and fruiting chamber will affect potency somehow?
I've had cakes grow with trich on it before and I just scraped that part of the cake off and was still able to grow fruits but am wondering if maybe it affected potency somehow? Perhaps if affects how many flushes I get or the appearance of the fruits?
Thanks
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Munchauzen


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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: Leviticus969]
#22000495 - 07/26/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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the spore load in your house goes up, meaning contamination is more likely.
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Leviticus969



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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: Munchauzen]
#22000516 - 07/26/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So you think as long as I get fruits than everything will be ok? Would it affect the grow in any other way other than trichin the substrate out?
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: Leviticus969]
#22000526 - 07/26/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Increased sporeloads on filters are the biggest issue. But it also means you need to be really precise with your sterile tek, spawn is more likely to trich out if its even a little bacterial when you spawn it. Of course lots of people grow in old ass moldy houses and have success. But generally they are trying to clean it up, not let it get worse.
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Leviticus969



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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22000570 - 07/26/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info n help yall. Anymore new input on the subject matter is welcomed. I know my cakes would probably fruit in that room but am still trying to decide if I should just have my stuff growing at a friends house instead if it might affect potency and flushes.
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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: Leviticus969]
#22000722 - 07/26/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay so you have a high spore load in your house (old house, lots of trich from contams w/e)
What is the best way to go about reducing it? Vacuum then steam clean? I wonder if my vacuums filter is small enough to catch trich spores or if it just ends up blowing them all over
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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: Leviticus969]
#22000723 - 07/26/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The spores aren't there forever. Mop the floor and wipe down the other surfaces in the room and you'll have removed most of them.
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Leviticus969



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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: Kizzle]
#22000756 - 07/26/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cool  
Thinking about buying one of those air purifiers just in case...
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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: Leviticus969]
#22000782 - 07/26/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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its no big deal once you open your door tons of spores come inside anyways, the spore load story is just a theory that it affects future grows
Edited by bakenast (07/26/15 05:05 PM)
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: bakenast]
#22000856 - 07/26/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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My biggest problem is carpets. But I am removing all of them and laminate is going in. Will be a dream come true.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: bakenast]
#22000868 - 07/26/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bakenast said: its no big deal once you open your door tons of spores come inside anyways, the spore load story is just a theory that it affects future grows
True but most people don't grow in the entryway to their home sporeload is real and can cause issues. Maybe some people overemphasis its impact but in a hobby with slim margin for error small impacts add up.
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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22001027 - 07/26/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The sporeload will certainly be higher while a mold source is still present which is the main reason most contaminated substrates should be removed ASAP.
I've noticed some people are quick to blame their home for recurring contamination problems and then get frustrated when cleaning doesn't help. But that doesn't mean the house is damned and you can never grow again. It means you haven't found the actual source of the problem.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: Kizzle]
#22001047 - 07/26/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know my house is full of mold. I can see it growing in some spots 
Still despite that i maintain a pretty good success rate. But I am also pretty careful, I don't cut many corners.
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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22002953 - 07/27/15 05:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I know my house is full of mold. I can see it growing in some spots 
Still despite that i maintain a pretty good success rate. But I am also pretty careful, I don't cut many corners.
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Pastywhyte said:
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bakenast said: its no big deal once you open your door tons of spores come inside anyways, the spore load story is just a theory that it affects future grows
True but most people don't grow in the entryway to their home sporeload is real and can cause issues. Maybe some people overemphasis its impact but in a hobby with slim margin for error small impacts add up.
oh i didnt know that airborne spores stop at the entry way of the house, and take there dirty shoes off on the welcome mat lol
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: bakenast]
#22003008 - 07/27/15 06:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey think what you want. But get a nice high white mold sporecount like mycogone or verticillium and then you will understand.
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Kizzle
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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22005103 - 07/27/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh i didnt know that airborne spores stop at the entry way of the house, and take there dirty shoes off on the welcome mat lol
It's not just the airborne spores you have to worry about. Trichoderma, Verticillium, Mycogone, Fusarium, etc all produce wet spores. They get inside primarily by sticking to your clothes and on the dust you carry in, not just by floating in the front door.
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Re: Contams affecting future grows [Re: Kizzle]
#22005160 - 07/27/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kizzle said:
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oh i didnt know that airborne spores stop at the entry way of the house, and take there dirty shoes off on the welcome mat lol
It's not just the airborne spores you have to worry about. Trichoderma, Verticillium, Mycogone, Fusarium, etc all produce wet spores. They get inside primarily by sticking to your clothes and on the dust you carry in, not just by floating in the front door.
exactly spores are everywhere and on everything, no reason to go overkill trying to get rid of them your never gonna win
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