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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22008399 - 07/28/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: when pulled over, is it lawful to cuss out the officer? "Fuck you pig and you're worthless whore mother!"
Of course it is lawful to cuss out an officer.Quote:
Or how about the proverbial "yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre"?
You're referring to the "clear and present danger" test. How does protesting at a funeral create a "clear and present danger"?
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: Enlil]
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Of course it is lawful to cuss out an officer.
haha my thoughts when reading his scenario: "Yes... YES of course its legal!!"
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: Diploid]
#22010957 - 07/28/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Diploid said: But if they will let the teachers to teach the Bible in schools, all of this wouldn't be happening, because they will know what the Bible really teaches.
Yeah, the bible teaches that it's OK to sell your daughter into sexual slavery. See Exodus 21:7
And husbands must not touch or sleep in the same bed with their wives for seven days during their period or god will be mad at them: Leviticus 15:19
Oh, and let's not forget that you must never work on Sunday. If you are caught mowing your yard on Sunday, you must be put to death. Exodus 35:2
There are also monsters and plagues and famines. Hell, god even burned the inhabitants of an entire city to death because they were fucking in an unapproved way. In another section god orders that every baby in a city be slaughtered. In others he sends swarms of insects to eat all the grain so entire populations, including children, would die slowly from starvation.
There was even a shockingly murderous part where god has a temper tantrum one day and drowns every single man, woman, child, and animal on the entire planet except a few he puts on an ark.
That's one fucked up book, man. Kids should not be reading that shit. It'll mess them up. 
Well of course He had to cause the flood in order to start all over again. Look at what they were doing, and just imagine if it would of have progressed.
Jasher 4:18 And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.
Jasher 2:17 And Lamech, the son of Methusael, became related to Cainan by marriage, and he took his two daughters for his wives, and Adah conceived and bare a son to Lamech, and she called his name Jabal.
18 And she again conceived and bare a son, and called his name Jubal; and Zillah, her sister, was barren in those days and had no offspring.
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: Douglas Howard]
#22011072 - 07/28/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can cuss at a cop but you may regret it. They have the gun, the badge, the radio, mace, and last but not least, credibility. If the cop says you were resisting violently and there is no video, you lose.
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: Enlil]
#22016745 - 07/29/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said:
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hostileuniverse said: when pulled over, is it lawful to cuss out the officer? "Fuck you pig and you're worthless whore mother!"
Of course it is lawful to cuss out an officer.Quote:
Or how about the proverbial "yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre"?
You're referring to the "clear and present danger" test. How does protesting at a funeral create a "clear and present danger"?
seriously? if you protest the funeral of one of my loved ones, yes, there WILL be a "clear and present danger"
and you're fucked in the head if you really think you have the right to start cussing out a cop, its called "verbal assault", you're not a very good lawyer, are you???
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: hostileuniverse]
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if you protest the funeral of one of my loved ones, yes, there WILL be a "clear and present danger"
If you mean that you would become violent, that's your prerogative, but when the cops arrive, they will take you to jail. Demonstrating peacefully in a public space is legal no matter how obnoxious you may find the message (or how retarded the governor may be), but you attacking someone demonstrating peacefully is very clearly illegal.
its called "verbal assault"
I don't think you have a clue what you're taking about. In the US, not only can you insult cops or anyone the fuck else you feel like insulting, your right to do it is protected by the constitution.
What TV show did you study law at?
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22017217 - 07/29/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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and you're fucked in the head if you really think you have the right to start cussing out a cop, its called "verbal assault", you're not a very good lawyer, are "you???
"Verbal assault" is a ridiculous oxymoron. I can't believe how many people are using it unironically these days.
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: Diploid]
#22017344 - 07/29/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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haha! fucking liberal idiots...
I'd love to see the video of someone cussing out the cops and the cop just says "ok, have a nice day" y'all go right ahead, and be the guniea pig on that one, you know damn well that shit don't fly, but hey, keep drinking your libtard coolaid...
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#22017702 - 07/29/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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and you're fucked in the head if you really think you have the right to start cussing out a cop, its called "verbal assault", you're not a very good lawyer, are you???
"Verbal assault" isn't a crime. Find me a law, in any jurisdiction in the united states that has such a crime, and I'll show you an unconstitutional law. See People v. Boomer, 655 N.W.2d 255 (Mich. App. 2002)
Profanity is protected under the first amendment, and profanity used against police has been specifically protected several times by Supreme Courts.
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22018639 - 07/30/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: haha! fucking liberal idiots...
I'd love to see the video of someone cussing out the cops and the cop just says "ok, have a nice day" y'all go right ahead, and be the guniea pig on that one, you know damn well that shit don't fly, but hey, keep drinking your libtard coolaid...
Of course. The moonbats constantly tell us cops go around shooting negroes for no reason but then say its ok to cuss them out. Maybe you get away with it and maybe you get maced, beat up, or arrested on some bogus charge in which its your word against theirs.
I'd like to see a video of enlil trying it. While he is getting pounded down he can say "the supreme court said it was ok" and the cops say "you are resisting arrest"
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: Stonehenge]
#22018908 - 07/30/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said:
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hostileuniverse said: haha! fucking liberal idiots...
I'd love to see the video of someone cussing out the cops and the cop just says "ok, have a nice day" y'all go right ahead, and be the guniea pig on that one, you know damn well that shit don't fly, but hey, keep drinking your libtard coolaid...
Of course. The moonbats constantly tell us cops go around shooting negroes for no reason but then say its ok to cuss them out. Maybe you get away with it and maybe you get maced, beat up, or arrested on some bogus charge in which its your word against theirs.
I'd like to see a video of enlil trying it. While he is getting pounded down he can say "the supreme court said it was ok" and the cops say "you are resisting arrest"
multiple videos were just posted of people cussing out cops and nothing happening. There have been multiple cases showing the legality of this as well. https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/06/26/you-re-really-being-an-asshole-officer
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: Douglas Howard]
#22019009 - 07/30/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Diploid said: But if they will let the teachers to teach the Bible in schools, all of this wouldn't be happening, because they will know what the Bible really teaches.
Yeah, the bible teaches that it's OK to sell your daughter into sexual slavery. See Exodus 21:7
And husbands must not touch or sleep in the same bed with their wives for seven days during their period or god will be mad at them: Leviticus 15:19
Oh, and let's not forget that you must never work on Sunday. If you are caught mowing your yard on Sunday, you must be put to death. Exodus 35:2
There are also monsters and plagues and famines. Hell, god even burned the inhabitants of an entire city to death because they were fucking in an unapproved way. In another section god orders that every baby in a city be slaughtered. In others he sends swarms of insects to eat all the grain so entire populations, including children, would die slowly from starvation.
There was even a shockingly murderous part where god has a temper tantrum one day and drowns every single man, woman, child, and animal on the entire planet except a few he puts on an ark.
That's one fucked up book, man. Kids should not be reading that shit. It'll mess them up. 
Well of course He had to cause the flood in order to start all over again. Look at what they were doing, and just imagine if it would of have progressed.
Jasher 4:18 And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.
Jasher 2:17 And Lamech, the son of Methusael, became related to Cainan by marriage, and he took his two daughters for his wives, and Adah conceived and bare a son to Lamech, and she called his name Jabal.
18 And she again conceived and bare a son, and called his name Jubal; and Zillah, her sister, was barren in those days and had no offspring.
19 For in those days the sons of men began to trespass against God, and to transgress the commandments which he had commanded to Adam, to be fruitful and multiply in the earth.
20 And some of the sons of men caused their wives to drink a draught that would render them barren, in order that they might retain their figures and whereby their beautiful appearance might not fade.
21 And when the sons of men caused some of their wives to drink, Zillah drank with them.
Sounds like they were just having a good time. Your God is a real buzzkill, I have to say.
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: psyconaught]
#22019130 - 07/30/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you or someone are recording the incident, cops will naturally take that into account and may not beat you, arrest you without cause or shoot you. I'm still waiting for enlil to do it. Or try cussing out a black person and see what happens. It won't matter if you record it or not.
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Re: Jindal: Religous Freedom, But Only When It's Convenient [Re: Stonehenge]
#22021836 - 07/30/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've cussed out cops several times, and I've cussed out people of all races. I'm an equal-opportunity asshole.
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