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beastcoast
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Why do I even need a fruiting chamber?
#21999710 - 07/26/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some of the first logs I packed close to a month ago were extremely slow to colonize. Eventually, all but one log began pinning and so all but one were moved to the fruiting chamber. That final log appeared to be fully colonized but never pinned, and after a few days I moved it into the fruiting chamber anyways. It stayed in there for close to a week. Nothing. I took it out and just propped it up against the outside of my chamber, and the next day it had began to pin. The below pictures are what it looked like three days later. The mushrooms could have used another day to mature, but they looked plenty good, and I did not want to introduce spores into a non-sealed area. One very strange thing is that mushrooms only formed on 1/3 of the log. The other 270 degrees not featured in these photos does not even have one pin.
These mushrooms look fuller and richer than anything I've harvested from my FC thus far. And this is not the first time this has happened. Mushrooms had begun to develop on every one of the logs before being moved to the fruiting chamber. I now have no doubt that they all could have reached this point. My basement is no more than 60% humidity, and receives only as much light as is allowed in by the small 10x18 windows.
If I can grow oysters without superficial humidity and controlled lighting, why do I even need the FC? I should be able to grow these outside and I would encounter far less problems than I am attempting to grow in my family's basement.


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freshcap
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Re: Why do I even need a fruiting chamber? [Re: beastcoast]
#22001886 - 07/26/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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These are my thoughts...
The fruits look better because they got more fresh air outside the FC then inside. They only fruited on one quarter of the log because when it was dropped up against the FC there it was more humid between the log and the FC.
Growing them outside works awesome, but then you are battling fungus gnats ect.
Try getting more FAE in your fruiting chamber. Blue oysters need a ridiculous amount of FAE, I can never seem to get enough for them inside.
Good work though those look great!
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Toadstool5
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Re: Why do I even need a fruiting chamber? [Re: freshcap]
#22002310 - 07/26/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Try getting more FAE in your fruiting chamber. Blue oysters need a ridiculous amount of FAE
Yeah it seems like there wasnt enough FAE in your FC. Do you have an exhaust?
If you can do it, go outside with them!
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Re: Why do I even need a fruiting chamber? [Re: Toadstool5]
#22002322 - 07/26/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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yea, a lot of edibles such as hericium and oysters are extremely co2 intollerant
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beastcoast
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Re: Why do I even need a fruiting chamber? [Re: tryptkaloids]
#22002363 - 07/26/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks guys!
I have a 4 inch hydrofarm fan serving as the exhaust and that moves 165CFM. The room is 8x15 and there were only 6 short logs in there. Who knows.
I might rig something together outside and throw a few logs in to see how they fair against whatever combatants exist in my area. I just really like the idea of not having spores accumulating inside my house.
on another note, does anyone know how I can slow down colonization of a straw log? I have 8 logs that I inoculated last Friday. I'd say they are around 50% complete now. But I planned poorly, and now I'm going away with family from Thursday-Saturday. I suspect they'll be fruiting somewhere around then which won't be any good. And the local farmer's market runs only on Thursdays and Saturdays haha.
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Gr0wer
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Re: Why do I even need a fruiting chamber? [Re: beastcoast]
#22010563 - 07/28/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can slow colonization and fruiting time by dropping the temps. But better timing is always the better option. Where are the logs? If you don't have them in your fruiting chamber and don't mist they shouldn't pin especially if they are only 50% colonized. Fruits don't typically form until the substrate is 100% colonized.
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beastcoast
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Re: Why do I even need a fruiting chamber? [Re: beastcoast]
#22011693 - 07/28/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm not worried about them pinning now, but rather, when they are fully colonized, which will likely occur sometime while I'm away. The next market I'd be able to attend is next Thursday. Who knows, maybe they won't be ready until then. One thing I've noticed is that if the mushrooms stay on the log for too long they will deteriorate within a day or two. If I pick them early and refrigerate they seem to keep very well. I won't have nearly enough room in my fridge for this next batch though. Which is why I'm hoping the harvest will fall somewhere around market day.
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Gr0wer
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Re: Why do I even need a fruiting chamber? [Re: beastcoast]
#22011731 - 07/28/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushrooms store well in a fridge. I put mine in cardboard boxes in the fridge. Allows them to breathe a bit and it wont condensate and collect moisture like plastic bags. Get a designated fridge for mushrooms, think used and big. You cant bet on timing your harvest around each farmers market once a week. Many times ill harvest the same flush two days in a row, leaving the less mature clusters to mature.
You should also look for other forms of local sale besides farmers market, especially supplying a restaurant. Get business cards to hand out.
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beastcoast
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Re: Why do I even need a fruiting chamber? [Re: Gr0wer]
#22012098 - 07/28/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks. The local farmers market is actually Thursday and Saturdays. I just won't be back until Sunday. Neighboring towns have much larger markets on other days I could explore. Local ag is thriving up in New England.
There is also huge potential in local restaurants where I live. The problem is that it's a very touristy town and after August, the population drops 90% and with it much of the business. But I'll be passing around samples as soon as I get back.
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Re: Why do I even need a fruiting chamber? [Re: stevo]
#22014483 - 07/29/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looking good, good job!
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