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Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization.
    #21999324 - 07/26/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Disclaimer: I fully support legalization of marijuana.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/pooch-accidentally-overdoses-on-pot-during-trail-walk-maxs-marijuana-mishap-has-sky-high-vet-bill06182015

Someone was walking their dog in Colorado, and the dog stopped and ate something in the grass, the owner didn't notice what it was. Later that day, the dog was twitching, unable to stand or walk, and couldn't control its bladder. Ended up being a 1600 dollar vet bill. If he had been a small dog, he would have died.

The chemical in chocolate that is poisonous to dogs is related to cannabinoids (some theorize that's why chocolate has a soothing emotional effect.) So marijuana is also poisonous to dogs, especially in concentrated amounts like found in edibles. People need to be responsible with this. People tell stories of their "stoner dogs" that enjoy getting high (ie they force the animal to inhale smoke or eat edibles). That kind of attitude has to change. People need to respect cannabis. An edible is not food - it is a drug/medicine and should be treated as such. It definitely shouldn't be left somewhere that children or animals can get to.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku] * 1
    #21999331 - 07/26/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: Patlal]
    #21999372 - 07/26/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you mentioned brownie dude. i dont trust that source at all... chocolate is really bad for dogs. how can you say it was the marijuana and not the chocolate? chocolate has theobromine in it, but i think its mostly in dark... its not related to cannabinoids


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: 404] * 1
    #21999456 - 07/26/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I had a dog that ate some poisonous mushrooms in our yard, it died.

I also had a dog that ate some chocolate out of my neighbors garbage can and got sick and had a pretty hefty vet bill, I suppose I should just put blame on Hershey's or my neighbor for making my dog sick other than taking responsibility for what my dog does, after all it's just a fucking dog.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #21999471 - 07/26/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

As marijuana becomes more of a mainstream topic, the news media is finding new ways to sensationalize their coverage. One topic that has resurfaced lately is dogs and marijuana—specifically, is pot good or bad for them? There is a lot of misinformation out there about canines and cannabis, leading NBC News to report “Marijuana poisoning on the rise in pets.”

Can marijuana poison your dog? We’ve been taught that marijuana is non-toxic to humans, but is it safe for dogs? Chocolate, raisins, grapes, garlic, onions, avocado, and macadamia nuts are delicious to us, but can range from sickening to life-threatening for dogs. And while everything more evolved than a sea squirt has an endocannabinoid system, can human-level quantities of weed overload a small dog’s system?

In the aforementioned NBC News story, Tina Wismer, the director of the Animal Poison Control Center explained, “Animals don’t react the same way as humans. Without treatment, dogs can go into comas and die.”







Wismer singled out medicated edibles with high THC concentrations as most dangerous to canines, especially if combined in chocolate brownies or raisin cookies.

A 2012 study published in the Journal of Veterinary Emergency and Critical Care followed 125 dogs in Colorado that presented marijuana ingestion from 2005-2010. Authors concluded, “Ingestion of baked goods made with medical grade tetrahydrocannabinol butter resulted in 2 deaths.” According to the Coloradoan, the two dogs died when they asphyxiated on their own vomit. Sad, to be sure, but can we call that a marijuana toxicity?

TheColoradoan also spoke with Ashley Harmon, a veterinarian at Fort Collins Veterinary Emergency and Rehabilitation. She says she’s seen more cases of people bringing in dogs who've ingested marijuana since it was legalized in Colorado. She also says she’s seen two smaller dogs die from marijuana ingestion, one who ate a pound of pot brownies and another who ate a pound of pot butter.  But was it the marijuana that harmed the dogs, or the ingredients in the edibles?

In 2013, researchers writing in the journal Topics in Companion Animal Medicine wrote, “The minimum lethal oral dose for dogs for THC is more than 3 g/kg. Although the drug has a high margin of safety, deaths have been seen after ingestion of food products containing the more concentrated medical-grade THC butter.” 

But in 1973, scientists writing for the journal Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology noted “In dogs and monkeys, single oral doses of Δ9-THC and Δ8-THC between 3000 and 9000 mg/kg were nonlethal.”

So, 40 years ago, 3 to 9 grams THC per kilogram of body weight was non-lethal to a dog, but last year, 3 grams THC per kilogram of body weight is the minimum lethal dose. Confused yet?

Consider that in those studies, that’s 3 g/kg of THC given orally, not pot itself. A 2004 review published in the Journal of Veterinary and Human Toxicology looked at 213 incidents where dogs ate actual pot from 1998-2001.

“The marijuana ingested ranged from 1/2 to 90 g,” the scientists wrote. “The lowest dose at which signs [of distress] occurred was 84.7 mg/kg and the highest reported dose was 26.8 g/kg.” They found that even with a dog eating almost an ounce of ganja per kilogram of its weight, “All followed animals made full recoveries.”

In terms of pure THC injected into dogs rather than eaten, researchers in 1983 found “the dose of THC which kills 50 percent of animals (LD50) when administered intravenously is … 130mg/kg in the dog.”

For comparison’s sake, pure synthetic THC Marinol pills that are prescribed to humans come in 2.5mg, 5mg, and 10mg oral dosages and the THC you’ll get in a package of Colorado medicated edibles ranges from 50mg to 125mg.





So, can marijuana kill your dog? Technically, yes, but realistically, probably not. Your dog would have to eat a pound or more of strong pot or edibles, and be a smaller-sized dog, and you’d have to ignore its symptoms, and the dog would have to pass out and choke on its vomit, or in the case of a chihuahua in New Zealand, experience hypothermia when the same blood vessel dilation that makes your eyes red makes the dog radiate away all its body heat.

Numerous veterinarians have written about the possibility of coma and death in rare cases from marijuana ingestion, though they all note that most dogs will recover if given proper care. We needn’t overreact to the topic of dogs and marijuana, as there is a promising future in veterinary medical cannabis. Just be sure to get in the habit of keeping your marijuana out of reach of your pets.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku] * 1
    #21999613 - 07/26/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The chemical in chocolate that is poisonous to dogs is related to cannabinoids (some theorize that's why chocolate has a soothing emotional effect.) So marijuana is also poisonous to dogs, especially in concentrated amounts like found in edibles.





it's horse shit, the dosage makes the poison, in a small dog the LD50 is 300mg
per kilogram, in larger dogs it's close to that of humans at around 900mg per kg
(humans it is 1000mg/kg). most chocolates have a relatively low level of
theobromine with darker chocolates containing higher levels, this would mean
that a 1.5oz 85% cacao chocolate bar would kill a little 2-3 pound yorkie in
most cases but in the case of a dog like her, a giant schnauzer, it would take a
few pounds of the same stuff


theobromine vs THC:

Theobromine is a nitrogen based alkaloid just as many others such as opium,
theobromine is structurally more similar to caffiene than THC, TCH is carbon
based and lacks the nitrogen. in testing the LD50 of THC in dogs administered
via the oral route, enormous dose levels, over 3000 mg/kg were administered with
no toxicity being found




in plain english, this is media fear mongering due to some woman who probably
fucks her dog and was angry that he couldnt satisfy her lust that afternoon,
the dog wasnt in any real danger, he was just stoned and she was in a panic and
it isnt like a vet isnt going to bullshit you just as much as anyone else when
they dont really know the answer


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21999712 - 07/26/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Vets are so full of shit. My old dog was having seizures and I took her into the er vet. They tried to tell me she had been eating mushrooms that grew out of the cow shit in the modoc nat forest. They didn't have an answer so they came up with that story, when she just had a recurring neurological issue.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #22000062 - 07/26/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lol @ the paranoia in this thread. People don't trust ANY authority anymore it seems, not even a veterinary doctor!

I'm not advocating that we restrict people's freedom because of this, I'm just calling out those people that are careless, inconsiderate fuckwits who think they own the world and can do whatever they want. It's possible that it was just chocolate that fucked with the dog (though I doubt it....it said "edible" not "brownie" or even "chocolate"). The only reason I brought up chocolate was as a comparison....something that's safe for humans but deadly for other animals.

The worst is when people get their own pets high. Especially if they have the audacity to claim that their animal "likes" it. It's a fucking animal. It is naturally high all the time in its own little world. It doesn't understand drugs, it doesn't want drugs, and it never asked for drugs. The dog in this story might have been pissing itself not because it lost control of its bladder, but because it was absolutely terrified of the effects. It's not cool.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22000077 - 07/26/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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in plain english, this is media fear mongering due to some woman who probably
fucks her dog and was angry that he couldnt satisfy her lust that afternoon,





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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22000094 - 07/26/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have a 14 pound shiba inu and she gets into my herb once in awhile. All that happens to her is she gets really stoned and paranoid. She doesn't like it but does it again and again. She ate close to a gram of 80% shatter one time and just got stoned. I was concerned that time but she was fine the next morning.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #22000100 - 07/26/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

dont get dogs high

thats fucked up


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22000127 - 07/26/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Lol @ the paranoia in this thread. People don't trust ANY authority anymore it seems, not even a veterinary doctor!




So when you wrongly claimed that "The chemical in chocolate that is poisonous to dogs is related to cannabinoids", whose authority are we supposed to be trusting there? Yours?


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: psi]
    #22000138 - 07/26/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you google "theobromine thc" you will find loads of stuff talking about how chocolate acts on cannabinoid receptors in the brain. Theobromine itself is apparently more similar to caffeine, but there are other chemicals in chocolate, namely anandamine, that are related to THC.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22000145 - 07/26/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The news makes money from ads. People who make the news are just you but now you're a "journalist" or a newscaster/anchor(talkinghead).
Basically the more views you get the more money you get from ads. This is why articles like these leave me unsure of it's reliability.

If anything I thought THC and stuff were anticonvulsants .
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/477630
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The effects of cannabidiol (CBD) on electrically evoked kindled seizures were studied in conscious, unrestrained rats with chronically implanted cortical and limbic electrodes, and the results were compared with those of delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol (delta 9-THC), phenytoin (PHT), and ethosuximide (ESM). All drugs were anticonvulsant, but there were marked differences in their effects on afterdischarge (AD) threshold, duration, and amplitude. CBD, like PHT and delta 9-THC, elevated the AD threshold; in contrast, ESM decreased the threshold but suppressed AD spread. CBD, however, also resembled ESM inasmuch as both drugs decreased AD duration and amplitude. Electrophysiologically, the antiseizure effects of CBD were a combination of those of PHT and ESM. The combination of effects may account for the observation that CBD was the most efficacious of the drugs tested against limbic ADs and convulsions. Other properties of CBD were also noted: For example, compared with delta 9-THC, it is a much more selective anticonvulsant vis-à-vis motor toxicity. CBD also lacks the CNS excitatory effects produced by delta 9-THC, PHT, and ESM. These characteristics, combined with its apparently unique set of electrophysiological properties, support the suggestion that CBD has therapeutic potential as an antiepileptic.




Edit:
If the dog ate chocolate it seems kinda odd to assume it wasn't the chocolate.
When people were dying from myth like research chemicals the "news" would report the only drug found in their system was weed...
"They may of been on something else but only weed was found therefore weed be killing bitches" :huxleyfacepalm:


Edited by Eggtimer (07/26/15 02:20 PM)


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22000165 - 07/26/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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If you google "theobromine thc" you will find loads of stuff talking about how chocolate acts on cannabinoid receptors in the brain. Theobromine itself is apparently more similar to caffeine, but there are other chemicals in chocolate, namely anandamine, that are related to THC.




Interesting, but it's the theobromine that kills them I'm pretty sure.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22000181 - 07/26/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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If you google "theobromine thc" you will find loads of stuff talking about how chocolate acts on cannabinoid receptors in the brain. Theobromine itself is apparently more similar to caffeine, but there are other chemicals in chocolate, namely anandamine, that are related to THC.





yeah, let's just keep tossing more bullshit out there until no one wants to point out the flaws


how about telling us what the toxicity is in dogs and the quantities found in
chocolates and how much of any sort of chocolate a dog would have to eat to
become poisoned.

woman's dog eats what she is apparently told by a vet was a marijuana edible,
even the woman apparently didnt know what the dog ate and I can bet the vet
didnt do a stomach pumping or even test the urine/blood to determine if that
was the case

what else was in this edible? could it be raisins? raisins are also toxic to dogs


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22000182 - 07/26/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Someone was walking their dog in Colorado, and the dog stopped and ate something in the grass, the owner didn't notice what it was. Later that day, the dog was twitching, unable to stand or walk, and couldn't control its bladder. Ended up being a 1600 dollar vet bill. If he had been a small dog, he would have died.





Nothing at all to do with Cannabis legalization. That plant grows all over the world with no human intervention at all. So do a number of hazardous plants. This is literally nothing more than a (made up) story about a dog eating a plant on the roadside and (allegedly) getting ill.

You are only perpetuating this brand of horse shit by making threads like this OP.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22000186 - 07/26/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What really kills more dogs?



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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: SteveRogers]
    #22000228 - 07/26/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Did you guys read the article? They know it was marijuana because yes the dog had high levels of THC in its system. They know it was an edible or concentrate, not a plant, because the levels were really really high, far too high to have been from eating a plant. Jeez I'm not attacking weed or even saying it shouldn't be legal, I'm just saying people need to be careful. The dog in this story only survived because it was a BIG dog and weighed 100 lbs.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku] * 1
    #22000256 - 07/26/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The dog in this story only survived because it was a BIG dog and weighed 100 lbs.





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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22000259 - 07/26/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Did you guys read the article? They know it was marijuana because yes the dog had high levels of THC in its system. They know it was an edible or concentrate, not a plant, because the levels were really really high, far too high to have been from eating a plant. Jeez I'm not attacking weed or even saying it shouldn't be legal, I'm just saying people need to be careful.




Yeah I read it.
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poisonous overdose of THC


:lol:
Dogs are differnet than us but it weighs over a 100 pounds. Come on the LD50 for THC is fucking crazy and it's an anticonvulsant.
If the edible was made of chocolate why are they saying it was weed. I bet this they fed it too their dog and then freaked out and said their dog ate it off the grass.
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“At present it is estimated that marijuana’s LD-50 is around1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.





What is the edible made out of? High levels of THC mean nothing if you also drank a gallon of acid.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku] * 1
    #22000264 - 07/26/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

let's blame irresponsible people not legalization


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: Eggtimer] * 1
    #22000270 - 07/26/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

based on the info I provided earlier the dog would have to ingest more than 150
grams of pure THC to die, that's speculatiob because based on the test they fed
more than 3000mg/kg to dogs and none of the dogs had died

the article also made no mention of drug tests, only a heart monitor and a claim
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    #22000292 - 07/26/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Pris if you were a girl I would let you fart in my face.



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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: SteveRogers]
    #22000302 - 07/26/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Pris if you were a girl I would let you fart in my face.





you dont have to be a girl for that, I'm willing to spread that joy to everyone


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: rackem]
    #22000320 - 07/26/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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let's blame irresponsible people not legalization



This.

The way I worded it got people all defensive. There's all kinds of dangerous stuff that pets can eat, but most of that stuff isn't left laying around in their reach (poisonous berries and stuff aside). I shouldn't have to worry about my dog or my son accidentally eating an edible that you dropped on the sidewalk. Please be responsible everyone.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22000327 - 07/26/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I shouldn't have to worry about my dog or my son accidentally eating an edible that you dropped on the sidewalk. Please be responsible everyone.




You don't have to worry about it any more than you choose to.
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    #22000352 - 07/26/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

As long as you aren't leaving drugs laying around.

My rather lax and carefree attitude towards pot (which for the most part I still have) got me into a lot of trouble when I started doing hard drugs. Luckily I'm done with all of that shit and only mess with pot and the occasional psych these days. I just treat it with more respect than I did in my youth.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22000383 - 07/26/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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. I shouldn't have to worry about my dog or my son accidentally eating an edible that you dropped on the sidewalk. Please be responsible everyone.




Why would you worry? Yeah they'd get high and you have to explain to them what is happening, and you'd have every right to be pissed IF it happened, but it's not like they'd die or really be harmed.


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    #22000391 - 07/26/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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let's blame irresponsible people not legalization



This.

The way I worded it got people all defensive. There's all kinds of dangerous stuff that pets can eat, but most of that stuff isn't left laying around in their reach (poisonous berries and stuff aside). I shouldn't have to worry about my dog or my son accidentally eating an edible that you dropped on the sidewalk. Please be responsible everyone.





if you're paying so little attention to your kids or dogs as to not notice that
they've picked something up and started snacking then maybe you qualify as
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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22000777 - 07/26/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Because I am going to be the one monitoring my child 24/7 until they're adult enough to do what they want.

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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22000791 - 07/26/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ur just wrong

so wrong


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: Eggtimer]
    #22000869 - 07/26/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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What really kills more dogs?






This is so true. I've heard so many stories about cops doing a raid and shooting friendly innocent dogs because they were barking.

I have a friend with a dog that has seizures. The vet told him to give the dog THC to stop the seizures. He makes a tincture and gives it to his dog. Guess what? The dog has no more seizures and lives a much better life now. The dog has had no ill effects from the tincture.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22000912 - 07/26/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Because I am going to be the one monitoring my child 24/7 until they're adult enough to do what they want.

Riiiiiight.




that is correct. as a parent, you are responsible for your child 24/7 until they are an adult.  it's like, the law and stuff


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22000958 - 07/26/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just read the OP, so I don't know if it's been mentioned, but . . .

This is not a new thing. There has always been stories about dogs eating a sack of pot or getting into edibles and getting incredibly sick. Usually involving seizures and whatnot.

This is not a legal issue. It's a "put your fucking drugs up" issue.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22000959 - 07/26/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Which means I do not have my own life and am not allowed to entrust my child to their own exploration, or to others, or the education system? Think about it...were YOUR parents hovering over your goddamned shoulder when you were playing in the park? Jeez louise.

EDIT: To the post above me, yes. That's essentially my point. Put your drugs up, treat them with respect.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22001087 - 07/26/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The symptoms sound like the dog ate an edible. That's what happens when a dog eats herb. They have a hard time contoling all 4 legs and want to hide, have nausea. The vet didn't know shit and played up the situation to a naïve dog owner who he knew would pay the $1600 when all she had to do was wait it out overnite. The vet in this case is a fraud with a shitty excuse and little to no toxicological evidence on his side.


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    #22001329 - 07/26/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My friends dog what eat a lot of stupid things, one day it ate a dish rag and then needed surgery, maybe dish rags should be illegal.  :flowstone:


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: ikku]
    #22001414 - 07/26/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I thought you were going to bring something to the table, for example because weed becoming decriminalized/medicinal American growers are growing better weed than Mexican Cartels can provide. Because that slice of profit pie is removed from the drug portfolio Cartels are now ramping up on methamphetamine, heroin, cocaine and human trafficking.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: myc_check1212]
    #22001453 - 07/26/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

no, it's far better to be concerned with the health of a dog than the profits of
drug cartels or the hundreds of people that were in similar situations to this
dog or even the increasing number of people that have dies as a result of
consuming these edibles


cuz you know, dogs and stuff


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22001480 - 07/26/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

this one time my ex's dog ate 2 pot cookies i had just made, and i made then strong as fuck.  they were peanut butter cookies and the dog was fine, just really stoned.  it slept it off and was fine the next day.


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Re: Unexpected consequence of marijuana legalization. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22001513 - 07/26/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I can totally empathize. Dogs rule, cats drool.


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