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Sieni505
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Loc: Finland, Ostrobothnia
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ID for mushroom with milky sap.
#21999236 - 07/26/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Habitat: Forest clearing (near a cottage) with pile of wood and some trunks nearby, growing from ground, sometimes in small clusters, or soiltary, about 20-30 specimens. Coastal woods in West Finland.
Gills: Pale brown(-rosy tan) crowded, decurrent gills.
Stem: 2-4cm, pale brown, no apparent ring, smooth.
Cap: 1-4cm, brown becoming dark brown, and very old specimens even black, very touch and leathery.
Spore print color: White
Bruising: Dirty milky sap produced, which soon disappears as if absorbed by spongy flesh of mushroom
Other information: These mushrooms (especially the old ones), had a particular spice-like scent that I cannot recall. I was also very surprised by its tecture, dry as if made of soft plastic.
I was thinking on a Lactarius sp.
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Sieni505
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Re: ID for mushroom with milky sap. [Re: Sieni505]
#21999268 - 07/26/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: ID for mushroom with milky sap. [Re: Sieni505]
#21999276 - 07/26/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's a Lactarius, I am not sure which one. I couldn't find a key to the Lactarius of Finland using google.
It might be in this book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fungi-Switzerland-Russulaceae-lactarius-russula/dp/3856042601
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Sieni505
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Re: ID for mushroom with milky sap. [Re: Sieni505]
#21999834 - 07/26/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have got few books from the Library. There's a species which I think is my photographed species, with a characteristic dark brown colour which turns almost black with age. I still can't place the distinct smell
My guess is Lactarius badiosanguineus (Kûhn. & Romagn.) Some images on the net gives further support. Just to tell you that I am on holiday here so I have neither microscope nor stains!
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Sieni505
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Re: ID for mushroom with milky sap. [Re: Sieni505]
#21999892 - 07/26/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Further research: http://www.nahuby.sk/atlas-hub/Lactarius-badiosanguineus/rydzik-hnedocerveny/ryzec-hnedocerveny/ID1547
This website (Slovakia) gives a good report (after google translating it). It mentiones the spicy odour and the images fit, bit I am unsure if in my population the young specimens were dark and become paler with age. Perhaps I have made a misjudgement. Apart this interesting species, one have to consider similar species:
Similar species: Lactarius sphagneti that grows in damp places and also often in peat moss (Sphagnum sp.), unlike Lactarius badiosanguineus as a two-tone hat (much paler edge) and the edges of the cap is substantially scored. Its petals [=gills] are paler in color and milk is fixed.
Lactarius hepaticus , it is bound to pine (Pinus sp.), only in exceptional circumstances to other coniferous trees, and prefers drier soils and habitat. It has a dimmer color hat and faster žltnúce milk (after isolating yellows within about 10 seconds).
Lactarius rufus , occur under evergreen trees and has, among other differences strongly pungent taste of the flesh and milk.
Lactarius aurantiacus , he has inter alia [=?] orange color is similar to him Lactarius lanceolatus , which grows in Arctic regions (but grows on the dwarf willow).
Lactarius duplicatus (lapponicus), grows in the subalpine zone binds to March and the milk is rapidly changing to yellow fruiting bodies directly, is colored brownish orange.
Lactarius fulvissimus , mainly in its wider sense (ie including Lactarius britannicus) may also in Central Europe occur under coniferous trees. He has a dark brick to orange brown or brownish red color, but away from the edge pales greatly to yellowish brown, ocher-orange, orange yellow. The taste is pleasant Lactarius Britannicus (hazelnut) not bitter or spicy. Its milk is white, very abundant, it starts to flow after abrasion leaf, unalterable in contact with petals (even after drying them), but the changes are isolated to a white paper on significantly lemon yellow in a few minutes (3-10 min. At Fresh fruiting bodies).
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Sieni505
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Re: ID for mushroom with milky sap. [Re: Sieni505]
#22000044 - 07/26/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok, got some help from family members and I agree that it smells like Bovril (meat extract). It quite strong, maybe because they are aging in the box.
At the moment I shortlisted L. sphagneti and L. badiosanguineus. The latter seem to be a larger mushroom, rather scentless and with a one-coloured hat. My preference is hence L. sphagneti. In some images one can see it's pale ochre rim.
One can also see a lot of Picea abies leaf litter on which this species is associated. The area had mixed trees, put this particular spot must have been dominated by Picea trees. Sphagnum moss also present, and the area being a wet forest is also true.
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