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Sku1dugg3ry
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Local Nursery Cactus ID
#21998430 - 07/26/15 04:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey all, Been lurking around for years but just got around to posting. I was at the local Nursery and saw some interesting looking specimens, wondered if anyone had any clues:

Thanks!
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LEft : stenocereus pruinosus monstrose ?
Right : Myrtillocactus geometrizans
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Sku1dugg3ry
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Re: Local Nursery Cactus ID [Re: Argyreia]
#21998481 - 07/26/15 05:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks. Time to do a little research on their magical powers now...finding conflicting info on both. Any idea on center? Not same as right, right?
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kosmokratorshaman
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that's a beautiful blue myrtle
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Welcome to the Shroomery, Sku1dugg3ry 
The centre one is perhaps Myrtillocactus schenckii?
None are 'active'
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Sku1dugg3ry
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Thx harmless. K two new questions: 1) best resource for gaining cactus knowledge? 2) are any cacti poisonous? Like if I go around eating random ones can I kill myself/fry my wetware?
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Re: Local Nursery Cactus ID [Re: Sku1dugg3ry] 1
#21998664 - 07/26/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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1) hang around here and you will surely improve your cactus knowledge Anyhow, this is a link for a very intresting enciclopedia about cactus : Cactuspedia
2) while there's not such a thing as a "poisonus" cacti, you should beware of euphorbias, wich secrete a white milk-like fluid that is enought dangerous to kill people. (many people mistake euphorbias for cacti)
Anyhow, i guess that one might accidentally eat things in the likes of polaskia, cereus, or myrtillocactus, plants that can be mistaken for active trichs, and wont give any psicadelic effect, but would reasonably not kill you for sure.
Anyhow, we are always here to help you identify your cacti. so my suggestion is : never eat something that was not identified by multiple members of our community
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Re: Local Nursery Cactus ID [Re: Lemnaminor]
#22017843 - 07/29/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey all A few specimens for ID and general old fashion grooviness. 
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I'm no expert but none of these are pachanoi or peruvianus or bridgesii or scopulicola which are the ones you would be seeking. But these are lovely cacti, you are lucky to have a nursery with such a range near by. Where I am theres only 2 succulent nurseries who have tiny cacti sections.
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Sku1dugg3ry
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Upon further investigation the blue is a pilocereus. They're rlly cool. I also wanted to show off the noncactus pic cuz that plant is just so weird. And yeah I'm thankful there's a cool Nursery nearby as well. Still haven't found anything active there yet tho lol
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The second one is a Pilosocereus sp. as well, but more important is the one to the right of it: it appears to be the spineless form of Opuntia fragilis and said to be an excellent stock for grafting.
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Re: Local Nursery Cactus ID [Re: LSoares]
#22018130 - 07/30/15 01:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thx Soares! Also, after doing a bit of research on my own I have found...dun duh da dunn! The one that is not a cactus is a big honkig old Datura plant!
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kosmokratorshaman
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Just noticed Opuntia matacantha variegated in the background of the first and second pics
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Edited by kosmokratorshaman (07/30/15 04:57 AM)
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Sku1dugg3ry said: The one that is not a cactus is a big honkig old Datura plant!
How the heck can a Datura get this big? Thought at first it was a brugmansia because of the size, but there are so many thornapples seen in there, brusmansia's seedpots are very rare and do look different (no thorns afaik).
I'm pretty stunned! Sadly there's no flower in this picture.
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kosmokratorshaman
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Sku1dugg3ry said: Upon further investigation the blue is a pilocereus. They're rlly cool. I also wanted to show off the noncactus pic cuz that plant is just so weird. And yeah I'm thankful there's a cool Nursery nearby as well. Still haven't found anything active there yet tho lol
Sounds like you know what it is, but want someone to ID it to be sure. Also, it is clearly not at the nursery. It appears to be planted and tended by someone.
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Re: Local Nursery Cactus ID [Re: Pandemoon]
#22018419 - 07/30/15 05:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Guess the climates just right? They're literally everywhere in this one spot. I have a picture of a flower, but its not open yet. I think flowering season is mostly past. But they are white when they open I'm pretty sure. Only saw open ones at might, so could maybe be offwhitish like this flower?

Also Krator, after I posted it I remembered I'm part of a Facebook group that identifies plants so I stuck it there too. And no that was growing wild on the way to the nursery lol.
Edit: if u were talking about the pilocereus, yeah that totally was at the nursery.
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Edited by Sku1dugg3ry (07/30/15 05:27 AM)
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kosmokratorshaman
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Def talking about the datura. Still looks like a tended plot to me.
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Sku1dugg3ry
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Nope. Honest there's this one street next to this empty lot on the way to the grocery store where they just sprout up willy nilly all along the road.
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Re: Local Nursery Cactus ID [Re: Lemnaminor]
#22018470 - 07/30/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lemnaminor said: 1) hang around here and you will surely improve your cactus knowledge Anyhow, this is a link for a very intresting enciclopedia about cactus : Cactuspedia
2) while there's not such a thing as a "poisonus" cacti, you should beware of euphorbias, wich secrete a white milk-like fluid that is enought dangerous to kill people. (many people mistake euphorbias for cacti)
Anyhow, i guess that one might accidentally eat things in the likes of polaskia, cereus, or myrtillocactus, plants that can be mistaken for active trichs, and wont give any psicadelic effect, but would reasonably not kill you for sure.
Anyhow, we are always here to help you identify your cacti. so my suggestion is : never eat something that was not identified by multiple members of our community
I checked out the cactuspedia and only looked up Blue Myrtle - Myrtillocactus geometrizans. The info is not completely accurate. They produce blue berries, not red. Also, they are very easy to root, even as small cuttings. I recently rooted six 2 inch pieces. A couple of weeks in soil, next to a CFL lightbulb.
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Lemnaminor
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if you dont lose time, you can harvest some seeds from that datura. Pods are ready and some already cracked and empty, but some may be full.
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Sku1dugg3ry
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Re: Local Nursery Cactus ID [Re: Lemnaminor]
#22018553 - 07/30/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This I have thought of. Not sure I want em though....the tempting pullk of madness...
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Apart from them being beautiful plants, do you guys really enjoy the active properties of atropine plants? I have never tried but the stories Ive read and heard make me not want to dare. My mate even got dosed by accident when he was pruning his Nightshade and a bit of it squirted into his face. He had to go to hospital and was seeing fireworks and strangers.
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Sku1dugg3ry
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 Reviving this thread. What is your take on the cactus? My best guess isnsome sort of ferocactus spp bit I can find any that grow so elongated like that...
Also, enjoy the flower.
Edit: dunno what happened to the images but they should work now.
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Edited by Sku1dugg3ry (08/06/15 12:24 PM)
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For some reason I can not zoom in but from what I can see I think it would be a blue myrtle.
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I disagree. I think the spines are uncommon to the blue myrtle.
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Sku1dugg3ry
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I agree Krator. I'm Gunna fix the images tomorrow so y'all can get a better look.
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Sku1dugg3ry said: I agree Krator. I'm Gunna fix the images tomorrow so y'all can get a better look.
I'm not sure it is your end the pics are messing up on... Seems like a site wide issue...
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Re: Local Nursery Cactus ID [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22055283 - 08/06/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm able to zoom in now so I recant my first statement but I can't tell what it is for sure. The shape still reminds me of a BM but the spines are off.
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It's definitely not a Myrtillocactus. I'd call it a Ferocactus as well. It's just a bit elongated, some brighter light will correct it in time.
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Re: Local Nursery Cactus ID [Re: karode13]
#22056705 - 08/07/15 05:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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karode13 said: It's definitely not a Myrtillocactus. I'd call it a Ferocactus as well. It's just a bit elongated, some brighter light will correct it in time.
Once you can zoom, it definitely takes on a different appearance. The spination is wrong for blue myrtle, coloring of spines as well. Ill take Karodes ID of ferocactus.
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