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What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip?
#21997574 - 07/25/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mescaline is mescaline, right? I mean is there a difference? Is the mystique surrounding peyote strictly due to its rarity or is it actually levels above as a psychedelic substance?
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Niffla]
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peyote contains a greater concentration of good I thought, so if you took 1 lbs of Loph it would be much greater than 1 lbs of Trich.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Lucis]
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Fennario said: peyote contains a greater concentration of good I thought, so if you took 1 lbs of Loph it would be much greater than 1 lbs of Trich.
Okay that's what I thought. So theoretically if you increased the amount of trich or SP to match the mescaline content of however much peyote -- then essentially it would be the same trip
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Niffla]
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I have no experience with it but I would assume with more material would mean more purging and more stomach cramping. I know how much discomfort I feel during a trip greatly alters said trip from experience with RCs and Shrooms. I'd imagine that would carry over to mescaline based trips as well.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Niffla]
#21997614 - 07/25/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fuck, misread what you asked, N/m..
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21997615 - 07/25/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: I have no experience with it but I would assume with more material would mean more purging and more stomach cramping. I know how much discomfort I feel during a trip greatly alters said trip from experience with RCs and Shrooms. I'd imagine that would carry over to mescaline based trips as well.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Niffla]
#21997618 - 07/25/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you make tea it cancels out differences in 'material ingestion' since when properly done they're both liquid...(and not 'snot' like a lot out there seem to think)
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Niffla]
#21997622 - 07/25/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fennario said: peyote contains a greater concentration of good I thought, so if you took 1 lbs of Loph it would be much greater than 1 lbs of Trich.
Okay that's what I thought. So theoretically if you increased the amount of trich or SP to match the mescaline content of however much peyote -- then essentially it would be the same trip
I have tried peyote a handful of times, but usually indulge in bridgesii or pedro, the most profound mesc experience came from 3 feet of bridgesii but that was because of quantity, I honestly don't know if there are any alkaloids present in Lophs that might alter things in anyway, they both felt the same to me.
Regarding purging, it never bothers me and I only consume mesc in tea.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Lucis]
#21997804 - 07/25/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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When i tried mescaLine for the first time I remember it vividly, it felt almost exatly like a mushroom trip but there was Definitely some sort of heightened awareness..
Im guessing it is the sAme with peyote and reg cactuses like sp, they are very much the same, but also very differebt and unique in their own ways.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: zZZz]
#21997844 - 07/25/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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tried it once years ago
i fucked up and didn't boil it down right and ended up with like 16 ounces of sludge
managed to get down most of it
the trip was weird as fuck, it was hitting me in waves...alternating waves of euphoria & sadness (??)
colors were vivid, as was sound/music
i watched a little bit of television and everybody looked like they were covered in literally pounds of makeup
and shit man, the trip was LONG as fuck...like 16-ish hours & change
body load was major too in my experience, i just wanted to lay down the whole time...probably because i didn't purge (was nauseous but didn't puke once during the experience)
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Niffla]
#21997889 - 07/26/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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U must have gotten a really potent cactus tripping for that long . longest trip for me was 12 hours exactly, i counted. Still by far the most enjoyable trip I've ever had with mesc, it was nothing short of perfect.
Did u eat anything prior to trippin?.. ive experimented with it many times and have found that eating before a trip really does cause nausea.
And also if u Boiled down the core as well as the cactuses most outer layer, especially the outer layer, will make u feel as nauseous as a mothefuker In the hot sun
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: zZZz]
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Did u eat anything prior to trippin?.. ive experimented with it many times and have found that eating before a trip really does cause nausea.
And also if u Boiled down the core as well as the cactuses most outer layer, especially the outer layer, will make u feel as nauseous as a mothefuker In the hot sun
If I recall correctly I ate light a few hours prior to the trip. And as for if I boiled down the core & outer layer -- I believe I did.
I remember that the goal was to get it down to at least a manageable 8 ounces or so, but instead was left with maybe even more than double that. I think it was roughly 20 inches of San Pedro.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Niffla]
#21997922 - 07/26/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm glad I had the experience, but I have minimal interest in a second trip. I mean especially considering the entire process...spending hours boiling it down and shit. No thanks.
However if someone just handed me a cup (or glass) of it, yeah, I'd probably do it again.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Niffla] 2
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Niffla said: Mescaline is mescaline, right? I mean is there a difference? Is the mystique surrounding peyote strictly due to its rarity or is it actually levels above as a psychedelic substance?
dude i dont mean to be mean or nuthin but thats kinda imatur......................
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Sheekle] 1
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Niffla said: Mescaline is mescaline, right? I mean is there a difference? Is the mystique surrounding peyote strictly due to its rarity or is it actually levels above as a psychedelic substance?
yea honestly op thats pretty messed up................
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seriously.............................................
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Sheekle]
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like.............
wht were u thnkin.............?
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Niffla]
#21997959 - 07/26/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't even boil it anymore, i just skin it and toss it all in the blender with some water to balance out the viscosity.
Hasn't failed me yet.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Niffla]
#21997983 - 07/26/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dont quote me on this but ive read that there are other alkaloids present in the core and people say that it affects the trip
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: TNK]
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Sheekle said: dude i dont mean to be mean or nuthin but thats kinda imatur......................
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yea honestly op thats pretty messed up................
Lol sorry it's an honest question, maybe a dumb one, IDK, but what the fuck is the difference
Enlighten me
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: 404]
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zZZz said: I don't even boil it anymore, i just skin it and toss it all in the blender with some water to balance out the viscosity.
Hasn't failed me yet.
If ure ever Interested in the exact recipe shoot me a pm 
Hmmm...may just have to do that

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ahh okay makes sense
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why were u thinkn?.............
were u evn think ???.......
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were u evn think ???.......
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: 404]
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Peyote was a lot different than san pedro for me. They definitely shared a lot of the same characteristics, but were two totally different experiences altogether, as far a 'quality' of the experiences.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: guitardude3]
#21998307 - 07/26/15 02:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I did mescaline once and it reminded me of acid. A friend of mine took peyote and he said that it reminded him of jimson weed but funner. I'm guessing peyote has a few extra alkaloids that put it in another ball park.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: lowbrow]
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jimson weed and peyote aren't even remotely related i dont think
ive heard mescaline is a lot like lsd. ive only had it combined with shrooms
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: 404]
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404 said: jimson weed and peyote aren't even remotely related i dont think
ive heard mescaline is a lot like lsd. ive only had it combined with shrooms
That's what he said, not me. I've never tried peyote, so I don't know.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: lowbrow]
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I just made a tea out of about a foot or so. Despined, chopped and quartered, put in blender with equal parts water, blended, boiled down to wet sludge, fabric strained, and jarred. Since I'm not doing it now, I froze it but with a chunk of ginger. Then, when I defrost it I'd imagine the ginger would leech into the brew and mask the taste and perhaps help with potential nausea. I'll fast first but its presence can't hurt. Tell me if this proves useful. It'd be my first try but I dabbed it on my tongue and boy is that gross. So I think its good.
I think peyote is said to be the better alternative because the buttons store more mescaline. However, they're extinct so pedro is said to be the better alternative.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Pseudo-Tim]
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Peyote is not extinct, but it can be rare. And mescaline is not related to scopalimine(the active ingredient in Jimsom Weed).
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Pseudo-Tim]
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Peyote is not extinct as Achilita said, but it has been hunted so much that it is endangered, people need to stop over harvesting buttons.
Anyway, mesc probably my fave psy, I love the way it makes my whole being feel, and the visuals always take a "Latin Vibe" for me.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Niffla]
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Higher mescaline %. Also each kind of cactus contains other alkaloids that contribute to the experience in their own unique way. Just as bridgesii is different from San Pedro, I imagine peyote would even be that much different as it contains other alkaloids. Plus there's just a whole psychological mystique built around peyote.
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Achillita said: Peyote is not extinct, but it can be rare. And mescaline is not related to scopalimine(the active ingredient in Jimsom Weed).
Nobody said they were related.
Also you you misspelled scopolamine.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: lowbrow]
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I thought I remember a thread that said peyote has like 52 alkaloids in it and San Pedro has 6, but I can't find the thread and couldn't find it on Google.
I'm never boiling that shit again I want to try peyote or Mescaline hcl.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Niffla]
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It also said bridgesii has 13 if I remember correctly.
Mescaline was probably my favorite drug as far as the experience, but the taste and process of preparing it make it not worth it. I couldn't drink another cup of that if I tried. The tar balls were terrible for nausea.
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: Achillita]
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Ok extinct was the wrong term. I meant endangered.
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I'm never boiling that shit again I want to try peyote or Mescaline hcl.
The alkaloid content and effects of said alkaloids is still very poorly understood. I've seen test results that vary WILDLY and really there is very little understanding of what roles the different alkaloids play in the experience.
It kinda cracks me up the big holy mystique that surrounds peyote. Tell someone about San Pedro and people just aren't usually even interested in hearing about it. LOL.
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Yea a friend asked me about it once and I told him there's another cactus (sp) that's almost exactly like peyote, but he kinda just nodded his head mid sentence like "yea.. I wanna try peyote"
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Re: What's the difference between a peyote trip and a san pedro trip? [Re: zZZz]
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Peyote has such a reputation as being super sacred and is ALWAYS talked about respectfully. I'd love to try peyote.
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Peyote beats basically everything else for me.
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