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Tweakz
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Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried.
#21997330 - 07/25/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey everyone, im attempting my first real grow and following this tek: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21390984
however it has been 6 days after inoculation and none of the 4 jars i prepared have shown any growth. 2 jars were straight spores, the other 2 i used a spore syringe, all jars are filled with brown rice grains. Insights or help would be greatly appreciated.
My first suspicion is the jars are lacking moisture, could that be fixed by just injecting more water with a sterile syringe?
heres some pics of one of the jars:


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bodhisatta 
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: Tweakz]
#21997361 - 07/25/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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it's only been 6 days...
spores can take upwards of 3 weeks to germinate in some cases
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MudaFuka
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: Tweakz]
#21997367 - 07/25/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Spores can take a while to germinate. What do you mean 2 were inoculated with straight spores? Did you just scrape spores off a print into a grain jar?
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: MudaFuka]
#21997382 - 07/25/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't understand why there's only 12 grains of rice in the near. Mainly because I refuse to read some shit violet typed lol
Is it worth a read?
OK nvm its used as an all in one.
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Tweakz
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: bodhisatta]
#21997387 - 07/25/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: Spores can take a while to germinate. What do you mean 2 were inoculated with straight spores? Did you just scrape spores off a print into a grain jar?
yeah just scraped them off a print and dropped them directly inside the jar.
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bodhisatta said: it's only been 6 days...
spores can take upwards of 3 weeks to germinate in some cases
wow really 3 weeks? i've been reading a lot of peoples posts and most people seem to get colonization started within a week, some people even after 3 days.
so i shouldn't panic just yet? might go buy some more jars and start making a backup plan though.
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: Tweakz]
#21997394 - 07/25/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've got spores to germinate in 2 days and I've had spores take 2 weeks.
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Tweakz
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: maddchef]
#21997395 - 07/25/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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maddchef said: I don't understand why there's only 12 grains of rice in the near. Mainly because I refuse to read some shit violet typed lol
Is it worth a read?
theres not much grain because it fruits inside the jar, and yeah the tek is worth a read its pretty interesting.
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: Tweakz]
#21997407 - 07/25/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tweakz
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: bodhisatta]
#21997414 - 07/25/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I've got spores to germinate in 2 days and I've had spores take 2 weeks.
It is winter here at the moment (26 degrees Celcius outside, but much warmer inside where i have the jars) could this have an impact?
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: Tweakz]
#21997421 - 07/25/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tweakz said: yeah just scraped them off a print and dropped them directly inside the jar.
You might want to add a few drops of sterile water to those jars.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: Tweakz]
#21997424 - 07/25/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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26C is as hot as I would go ever. 20-23C is perfect
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Tweakz
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: bodhisatta]
#21997437 - 07/25/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21168958
that tek seems better, but it also uses a lot of materials i don't have. might be easier to just do PF Tek. I'm gonna start another batch of jars but i'll do pf tek this time, and if these first few jars work then sweet but if not ill have a backup. thanks for all the info bodhisatta.
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Tweakz
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: MudaFuka]
#21997445 - 07/25/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said:
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Tweakz said: yeah just scraped them off a print and dropped them directly inside the jar.
You might want to add a few drops of sterile water to those jars.
1ml of sterile water through the polyfill with a syringe ?
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Tweakz
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: Tweakz]
#21997455 - 07/25/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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guys im gonna head down to the shops and get some verm and start some pf teks, i'll read everything you guys write when i get back.
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: Tweakz]
#21997466 - 07/25/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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PF tek can be done really really easily

no dry verm layer, a SHIP and a GE filter. I did the SHIP for easyness. fruit them with a sandwich bag, adjust or add holes as needed. mist as needed.
great way to get a clone from a MS culture.
three minutes to prep the cake, very short time to sterilize in a PC or you can steam them like advised in the brf/pf TEKs.
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: Tweakz]
#21997478 - 07/25/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Most people do get growth within a week or sooner. The fastest I ever had was 3 days from a vendor print, and had it take longer from my own newer prints, so it seems to be genetic. That rice looks pretty well hydrated to me.
The ones that just had spores dropped into them may take longer to germinate since there may not be enough moisture present to rehydrate them very well. Others would know more about this than I.
You don't need to change tek because your spores didn't germinate as fast as you would have liked... I like v-tek a lot, though it is kinda picky. Case that brown rice when it finishes colonizing.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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Tweakz
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: bodhisatta]
#21997494 - 07/25/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: PF tek can be done really really easily

no dry verm layer, a SHIP and a GE filter. I did the SHIP for easyness. fruit them with a sandwich bag, adjust or add holes as needed. mist as needed.
great way to get a clone from a MS culture.
three minutes to prep the cake, very short time to sterilize in a PC or you can steam them like advised in the brf/pf TEKs.
damn, that's genius, and looks really simple too. well im off to get the materials needed, hopefully this works out.
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Tweakz
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Machiavelliavore said: Most people do get growth within a week or sooner. The fastest I ever had was 3 days from a vendor print, and had it take longer from my own newer prints, so it seems to be genetic. That rice looks pretty well hydrated to me.
The ones that just had spores dropped into them may take longer to germinate since there may not be enough moisture present to rehydrate them very well. Others would know more about this than I.
You don't need to change tek because your spores didn't germinate as fast as you would have liked... I like v-tek a lot, though it is kinda picky. Case that brown rice when it finishes colonizing.
would verm-only casing work? or do i need coir/peat moss?
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: Tweakz]
#21997520 - 07/25/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Need help with V-tek, No growth, Worried. [Re: bodhisatta]
#21997570 - 07/25/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hope you are not giving up on the rice jars yet.
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