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PlantMan
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LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms?
#21996474 - 07/25/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys, SWIM has always been interested in drugs, especially plants, and their effect on the mind. Last year SWIM had a series of random dreams about mushrooms and other psychedelics leading him research them, for these dreams felt psychedelic in themselves and were convincing SWIM he should take them. After months of no success he finally found a mushrooms hook up out of nowhere(a one time hook up). Anyways SWIM split a q with a friend on the most perfect of days, starting with both of them having open houses. SWIM took them about to hours before the friend bc at first the friend was going to wait. What SWIM experienced was what he later believed to be the best possible experience one can have on the mushrooms. Complete release from the human body due to "ego death", in simple terms SWIM(or no longer SWIM) had achieved Nirvana even if for only a few hours. It's been a couple months and SWIM hasn't been presented again with the holy mushroom, but instead LSD. He is hesitant to try LSD because he believes that one main reason the mushroom(and other plants) are so enlightening because of their long and deep connection in the universe and the Earth. SWIM is worried that acid would lack the spiritual element of the psychedelic, and is confused how it could deliver a safe, pure experience when in itself it is synthetic. Also, purity of LSD in itself, as SWIM is aware that it is not uncommon to be given a different drug instead of LSD. So SWIM would like to know whether or not LSD is a safe and spiritual drug worth trying rather than an unconnected, physical drug with possible dangers.
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: PlantMan] 2
#21996484 - 07/25/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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whats with all these mofo's swimming in the forums.. Wheres the pool at?!?
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: PlantMan]
#21996502 - 07/25/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LSD = better for parties Mushrooms = better for spiritual ego death
IMO anyway
Also; SWIM = Someone Who Isn't Me
Or
SWIM = Someone Who Is Me
Don't use swim is pointless. Just say Erin, is your name Erin? If not then using Erin instead of SWIM is actually safer.
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: Blazer420] 1
#21996517 - 07/25/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Blazer420 said: whats with all these mofo's swimming in the forums.. Wheres the pool at?!?
Don't forget to bring a towel
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canabis
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: Zombi3] 2
#21996521 - 07/25/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I find LSD way more spiritual than mushrooms.
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: canabis] 1
#21996536 - 07/25/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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To each his own homie.
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: Zombi3] 2
#21996583 - 07/25/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i Find them equally spiritual, depends on the dose, of course.
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#21996625 - 07/25/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: i Find them equally spiritual, depends on the dose, of course.
^^This, and setting for me.
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: drr]
#21996657 - 07/25/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LSD (if pure) is very safe and yes, it is too spiritual IME. LSD isn't exactly a 'chemical thrashed drug' if that's what you're wondering.
Just some background knowledge for you:
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Wikipedia said: Lysergic acid diethylamide (/daɪ eθəl ˈæmaɪd/ or /æmɪd/ or /eɪmaɪd/), abbreviated LSD or LSD-25, also known as lysergide (INN) and colloquially as acid, is a psychedelic drug of the ergoline family, well known for its psychological effects - which can include altered thinking processes, closed- and open-eye visuals, synesthesia, an altered sense of time, and spiritual experiences - as well as for its key role in 1960s counterculture. It is used mainly as an entheogen and recreational drug. LSD is non-addictive. However, acute adverse psychiatric reactions such as anxiety, paranoia, and delusions are possible
LSD was first synthesized by Albert Hofmann in 1938 from ergotamine, a chemical derived by Arthur Stoll from ergot, a grain fungus that typically grows on rye. The short form "LSD" comes from its early code name LSD-25, which is an abbreviation for the German "Lysergsäure-diethylamid" followed by a sequential number.LSD is sensitive to oxygen, ultraviolet light, and chlorine, especially in solution, though its potency may last for years if it is stored away from light and moisture at low temperature. In pure form it is a colorless, odorless, tasteless solid. LSD is typically either swallowed (oral) or held under the tongue (sublingual), usually on a substrate such as absorbent blotter paper, a sugar cube, or gelatin. In its liquid form, it can also be administered by intramuscular or intravenous injection. Interestingly, unlike most other classes of illicit drugs and other groups of psychedelic drugs such as tryptamines and phenethylamines, when LSD is administered via intravenous injection the onset is not immediate, instead taking approximately 30 minutes before the effects are realized. LSD is very potent, with 20–30 µg (micrograms) being the threshold dose.
Hofmann discovered the psychedelic properties of LSD in 1943.It was introduced commercially in 1947 by Sandoz Laboratories under the trade-name Delysid as a drug with various psychiatric uses.In the 1950s, officials at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) thought the drug might be applicable to mind control and chemical warfare; the agency's MKULTRA research program propagated the drug among young servicemen and students. The subsequent recreational use of the drug by youth culture in the Western world during the 1960s led to a political firestorm that resulted in its prohibition.
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: Trickyricky217] 2
#21996667 - 07/25/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Trickyricky217 said:
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LogicaL Chaos said: i Find them equally spiritual, depends on the dose, of course.
^^This, and setting for me.
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: Krazent]
#21996683 - 07/25/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've had level 5 experiences on both, and they are definitely equally spiritual, in different ways. Shrooms have a more visual trip with less control, and they have that natural energy to them. L feels incredibly focused, clear headed, less visual but more in control.
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: FractalMind]
#21996851 - 07/25/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Depending on dose I find L to be more controllable compared to Psilo. But the body load and overall length is very taxing on body and brain.
But at a high enough dose it's all sensory overload ego death.
Edited by Cinnor (07/25/15 07:23 PM)
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Eggtimer
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: PlantMan]
#21997026 - 07/25/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Their safety profile of both I think is similar but mushrooms being a tad safer just because of how potent LSD is because it's a chemical where mushrooms are a chemical suspend throughout organic material so it's not as concentrated. I can easily agree that LSD feels more controllable than any shroom trip I've had but I haven't ever done a realllly high LSD dose like 750mics or something where I almost always do high shroom dose 5+ And most my really meaningful experiences I feel have come from shrooms not LSD but that could just be a dose issue. Like I'm not doing enough.
Also I just posted on a thread about LSD vs mushrooms differences in the pub like minutes ago.
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Deviate
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: Zombi3]
#21997072 - 07/25/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: LSD = better for parties Mushrooms = better for spiritual ego death
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Agreed. LSD is a great party drug, but spiritual? It definitely lacks the sacredness of the natural entheogens. Sure you can have spiritual experiences on it, but its really more of a party drug in my opinion. Unlike mushrooms which destroy the ego, LSD tends to give one a much bigger, more spiritual ego. Some people consider this spiritual and it is in a sense, but true spirituality means going beyond ego, not getting a better ego.
I read a story tonighjt about some native american peyoters. One day a hippie brought them some LSD and told them it was like a modern day peyote. The indian chief was very excited to try it and immediately took a high dose. Later he said that it caused a great disturbance in his mind which took him 3 months to recover from. He said it was not like peyote.
I agree with him. I find that taking peyote is actually a fairly good spiritual path. I do not believe that taking LSD is a good spiritual path.
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spock
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Re: LSD a less spiritual and safe drug than Mushrooms? [Re: Deviate]
#21997104 - 07/25/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I often hear of people blacking out on high doses of shrooms. I've had countless shroom trips but treat them with a lot of respect. I have taken super high doses of lsd many times and it really wasn't too much different than just a high dose. Never heard of people blacking out on lsd. YMMV.
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