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Re: Aleister Crowley is more interesting than I first thought [Re: Eggtimer]
#22735724 - 01/04/16 12:32 PM (8 years, 27 days ago) |
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I would look more towards daoism. Study the Tao Te Ching, get a couple copies of the I-ching and 2 coins. That's some originality.
Satanism is a rip-off of Christianity. It's like Talmudism.
They say Satan is = to God and point to the Bible to evidence that Satan exists. But where does it say he was = God? Satanists just base a religion off of a character from another religion, and then make up some opposing teachings which they transpose with or superimpose over the original... not that the modern Bible is entirely original...
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I have denied God. And I am Satan!
The Vision and the Voice
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All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
Edited by flickedbic (01/04/16 12:41 PM)
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Re: Aleister Crowley is more interesting than I first thought [Re: Eggtimer]
#22735919 - 01/04/16 01:51 PM (8 years, 27 days ago) |
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dude was a rapist
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Re: Aleister Crowley is more interesting than I first thought [Re: flickedbic]
#22737798 - 01/04/16 11:09 PM (8 years, 26 days ago) |
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flickedbic said: I would look more towards daoism. Study the Tao Te Ching, get a couple copies of the I-ching and 2 coins. That's some originality.
Satanism is a rip-off of Christianity. It's like Talmudism.
They say Satan is = to God and point to the Bible to evidence that Satan exists. But where does it say he was = God? Satanists just base a religion off of a character from another religion, and then make up some opposing teachings which they transpose with or superimpose over the original... not that the modern Bible is entirely original...
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I have denied God. And I am Satan!
The Vision and the Voice
Haha I just think it's funny how much hate this guy gets from people. Really that's the main reason I made it. Mostly I'm into non-duality, huayan school buddhism, and advaita vedanta.
Thelema isn't really satanism. It puts together many different beliefs. like zoroastrian, kabbalah, taoism, ect. What I like about thelema is many of the rituals are easily available/understandable. When I was starting out I had a hard time finding/understanding the eastern rituals because some are very complex and haven't been put "out there" yet by the masters.
Although most people find it very silly rituals can be used to influence your subconscious and strengthen your will. To get down to the core of being so worldly problems do not mess with your inner life. Once you get to the core of your being then things take on new meanings and life looks different. There is so much symbolism to unfold. That's the fun part.
I think he was a trickster too.
Here's his writings on the holy guardian angel. Basically it's kinda like the western version of a spirit animal.



Western ritual
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Re: Aleister Crowley is more interesting than I first thought [Re: Eggtimer]
#22739269 - 01/05/16 11:16 AM (8 years, 26 days ago) |
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You're gonna trust a trickster?
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Mostly I'm into non-duality, huayan school buddhism, and advaita vedanta.
That's good. I'm fairly sure you don't want to end up like Crowley.
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Thelema isn't really satanism. It puts together many different beliefs. like zoroastrian, kabbalah...
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"I was not content to believe in a personal devil and serve him, in the ordinary sense of the word. I wanted to get hold of him personally and become his chief of staff." — Aleister Crowley
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Or consider Crowley's Satanic "invocation" (which means to spiritually as well as physically seek union and become one with) in "Magick" p. 357: "Thou Spiritual Sun! Satan, Thou Eye, thou Lust; Cry aloud! Whirl the Wheel, O my Father, O Satan, O Sun!" - http://www.henrymakow.com/aleister_crowley.html#sthash.rJNSwtEp.dpuf
If you want to, get into magic of those schools you mentioned, not this asshat's "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" "magick". I don't think Buddha would ever cut himself to focus his mind...
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Black magic means using your energy, wasting it, in dominating others. White magic means using the same methods, but using your energy in dominating your own life, becoming a master of yourself.The only useful thing is to dominate yourself. Dominating others or being dominated is useless, a wastage of your energy. Nothing is achieved through it — just an egoistic feeling that you can dominate or get dominated. ... All expansion is life, all contraction is death.All love is expansion, all selfishness is contraction. Love is therefore the only law of life. He who loves lives, he who is selfish is dying. Therefore love for love’s sake, because it is law of life, just as you breathe to live.
https://hinduismglance.wordpress.com/2012/12/09/how-to-practice-advaita-vedanta-nondualism-brahman-dharma-sanatan-dharma-arya-dharma-future-religion-of-the-planet/
Again I beseech you to seek out a copy of the I-Ching as you're interested Daoism and deeper truth. Two coins, a pen, and a focused mind are all one needs to freely consult the oldest existing oracle/sage.
-------------------- Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order: 1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine 2)Amanita (urine drank twice) 3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose) 4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators) 5)Salvia (need to try quid)
All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
Edited by flickedbic (01/05/16 12:09 PM)
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Re: Aleister Crowley is more interesting than I first thought [Re: flickedbic]
#22739806 - 01/05/16 01:28 PM (8 years, 26 days ago) |
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Sorry to be annoying but...
Was he really a pedo? I kinda believe he was hated for his unorthodox ideas and people wanted to denounce him. By no means was the guy perfect but it drives me crazy to see such allegations.
John Bull was a traditional values magazine that seem to start the ball rolling.


Here's some things crowley has said.
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"As ye will." It should be abundantly clear from the foregoing remarks that each individual has an absolute and indefeasible right to use his sexual vehicle in accordance with its own proper character, and that he is responsible only to himself. But he should not injure himself and his right aforesaid; acts invasive of another individual's equal rights are implicitly self-aggressions. A thief can hardly complain on theoretical grounds if he is himself robbed. Such acts as rape, and the assault or seduction of infants, may therefore be justly regarded as offences against the Law of Liberty, and repressed in the interests of that Law.
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Black magic is not a myth. It is a totally unscientific and emotional form of magic, but it does get results— of an extremely temporary nature. The recoil upon those who practice it is terrific.
It is like looking for an escape of gas with a lighted candle. As far as the search goes, there is little fear of failure!
To practice black magic you have to violate every principle of science, decency, and intelligence. You must be obsessed with an insane idea of the importance of the petty object of your wretched and selfish desires.
I have been accused of being a “black magician.” No more foolish statement was ever made about me. I despise the thing to such an extent that I can hardly believe in the existence of people so debased and idiotic as to practice it.
Do what thou wilt is basically saying follow your innate nature like taoism.
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"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will."
Edited by Eggtimer (01/05/16 01:30 PM)
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