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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: zappaisgod]
#21996057 - 07/25/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That is so cute. You don't want to put your daughter in a box. Good for you for wanting to be a continuing close part of her life and get to know her complex character.
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zappaisgod
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: Hippocampus]
#21996095 - 07/25/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I couldn't put her in a box if I wanted to. She is a fully grown young woman about to embark on her work life journey. She can be fractious. My work there is mostly done.
I nudge, I don't force. We have real adult conversations. The thing is, in academia you pretty much get only one viewpoint, which is sad because it wasn't that way for me in the 70s.
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: zappaisgod]
#21996348 - 07/25/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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She is probably going to vote for hitlery. You don't argue with people who have the same views, you argue with the opposite.
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: Stonehenge]
#21996361 - 07/25/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't know. I really don't
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: zappaisgod]
#21996407 - 07/25/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: in academia you pretty much get only one viewpoint, which is sad because it wasn't that way for me in the 70s.
I understand what you mean. However, if you can give her credit to choose wisely, there are certainly many differing viewpoints in academia. She must navigate them and gravitate to the personalities she agrees with. It's certainly a dangerous endeavor learning when to question your own viewpoints, and when to trust them. But I can understand where you're coming from. Certainly in many regards academia holds a narrow accepted range of views. It's especially alarming to me in the arts. Whereas, in sciences the rationalists seem to win out, which jives with the way I see things.
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: Hippocampus]
#21996434 - 07/25/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't care what she thinks about politcs,
is she hot?
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The liberal profs at uni got to her and undid all the good work zappa tried to do. Now she will be a dem all her life.
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: Stonehenge]
#21996452 - 07/25/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stoner, shut the fuck up.
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let him speak
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: zZZz]
#21996471 - 07/25/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its true, people get a major propaganda load going to uni these days. It wasn't like that in my day but now it is. All her friends believed in it, her professors believed, the books all told her to be pc, so she believed it.
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: zappaisgod]
#21996486 - 07/25/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I couldn't put her in a box if I wanted to. She is a fully grown young woman about to embark on her work life journey. She can be fractious. My work there is mostly done.
I nudge, I don't force. We have real adult conversations.
I think I understood what you meant. I too find out about people's viewpoints by asking and challenging them. Sometimes people see this as being argumentative. But I'm just trying to figure out why they think what they think, and whether that is the right way to think. Often people do not like their views to be questioned in any way. Oh well, what can you do?
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: Stonehenge] 1
#21996493 - 07/25/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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She is an extremely smart young lady. I do not worry about her at all. Our discussions are extremely substantive and we both understand the issues even if we come out on different sides. I cannot express how proud of her I am. She is coming here for the bar exam Monday. She says she is a little nervous and I told her she doesn't need to be because she has done all the work and she is smart as fuck. She just wants to get it over with. She had one job interview. She got the job. She is awesome
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: zappaisgod]
#21996504 - 07/25/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: With my daughter. She is so fucking smart she is the only person I know IRL who can keep up. Everybody else gets eaten alive. I would like to thank the 'shroomery for making me do the work necessary to battle her. Because of you guys I pretty much have an answer for all of her points. My skills have been honed in the crucible of the 'shroomery. Yes I know it is a mixed metaphor.
Have you and your daughter stopped battle axeing each others faces over differing opinions and started arguing responsibly and respectfully now?
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: Hippocampus]
#21996505 - 07/25/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hippocampus said:
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zappaisgod said: I couldn't put her in a box if I wanted to. She is a fully grown young woman about to embark on her work life journey. She can be fractious. My work there is mostly done.
I nudge, I don't force. We have real adult conversations.
I think I understood what you meant. I too find out about people's viewpoints by asking and challenging them. Sometimes people see this as being argumentative. But I'm just trying to figure out why they think what they think, and whether that is the right way to think. Often people do not like their views to be questioned in any way. Oh well, what can you do?
Rebecca has been my daughter for 25 years. She doesn't get offended when I challenge her. I'm her daddy, after all. It's my job.
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: zZZz]
#21996508 - 07/25/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zZZz said: let him speak
Yeah, encourage the plebians
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: imachavel]
#21996510 - 07/25/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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imachavel said:
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zappaisgod said: With my daughter. She is so fucking smart she is the only person I know IRL who can keep up. Everybody else gets eaten alive. I would like to thank the 'shroomery for making me do the work necessary to battle her. Because of you guys I pretty much have an answer for all of her points. My skills have been honed in the crucible of the 'shroomery. Yes I know it is a mixed metaphor.
Have you and your daughter stopped battle axeing each others faces over differing opinions and started arguing responsibly and respectfully now?
We always have
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: zappaisgod]
#21996514 - 07/25/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good to know. See? There was a reason I knew her name last time we spoke. I knew you had mentioned it somewhere
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: zappaisgod]
#21996524 - 07/25/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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imachavel said:
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zappaisgod said: With my daughter. She is so fucking smart she is the only person I know IRL who can keep up. Everybody else gets eaten alive. I would like to thank the 'shroomery for making me do the work necessary to battle her. Because of you guys I pretty much have an answer for all of her points. My skills have been honed in the crucible of the 'shroomery. Yes I know it is a mixed metaphor.
Have you and your daughter stopped battle axeing each others faces over differing opinions and started arguing responsibly and respectfully now?
We always have
Good to know. I thought at one time I swore you said you guys had practically fired artillery at each other before over a few simple arguments
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: imachavel]
#21996527 - 07/25/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's a great name isn't it? Almost as great as Kevin Paul. Listen up chicksgrowtoo.
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Re: I have the best arguments [Re: zappaisgod]
#21996531 - 07/25/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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in all seriousness though,
it sounds like you raised a wonderful human,
and I'm not surprised at all.
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