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OfflineLived_1978-2043
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Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,...
    #21994469 - 07/25/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

...and deleted all therein?

That kind of hacker would be a real American hero in our country. :highfive: All ex-cons could get jobs, which then means less crime all over America. Remember, a conviction or a pleading of guilt or an outstanding warrant can more likely scar you for life.


Edited by Lived_1978-2043 (07/25/15 10:02 AM)


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
    #21994484 - 07/25/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Some criminals deserve their record.


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Amanita86]
    #21994515 - 07/25/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

One rotten apple shouldn't be allowed to spoil the whole bunch.

And more good would come from it than bad I bet. All hardcore criminals would still be behind bars. When you have did your bid that should be the end of your punishment. No good sense in people continuing people's punishment basically after they paid for their crime.


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Amanita86]
    #21994520 - 07/25/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That sounds like a wonderful plan. I believe that once a person is kidnapped and thrown into a prison, then let go, there is no need to make it harder on them.


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
    #21994524 - 07/25/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

its not like theres one big computer where all that info is, its backed up with all sort of redundancies. you cant just press "backspace" and delete a national database.

unless its on a TV show, then its totally possible.


that isnt to say data can't be lost, but you cant just delete everyones criminal record


Edited by Adolin (07/25/15 10:11 AM)


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Adolin]
    #21994536 - 07/25/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Gresh said:
its not like theres one big computer where all that info is, its backed up with all sort of redundancies. you cant just press "backspace" and delete a national database.

unless its on a TV show, then its totally possible.


that isnt to say data can't be lost, but you cant just delete everyones criminal record




But the right virus by the right hacker could work, couldn't it? Could keep the data base down for good maybe.


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Adolin]
    #21994541 - 07/25/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have asked about this before.  The answer was that there are multiple systems.  The FBI has their database, then there are state and local computers.  Who knows where and how many backups there are.  Knowing our luck they are prepared for all out nuclear war and post apocalypse lock down.  I am sure something is kept offline as well.


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
    #21994562 - 07/25/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Lived_1978-2043 said:
Quote:

Gresh said:
its not like theres one big computer where all that info is, its backed up with all sort of redundancies. you cant just press "backspace" and delete a national database.

unless its on a TV show, then its totally possible.


that isnt to say data can't be lost, but you cant just delete everyones criminal record




But the right virus by the right hacker could work, couldn't it? Could keep the data base down for good maybe.




its within the realm of possibility i suppose, but i'd assume that it would involve more social engineering and terrorism than hacking/spyware though.

there are probably un-networked backups of the criminal database all over the place, it probably doesnt even take up much data, considering its primarily text and images

i honestly dont know enough about cyber security to have a valid opinion though, i just don't see it being something that could be completely lost due to all of the backups and redundancies that there are around now


Edited by Adolin (07/25/15 10:21 AM)


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
    #21994593 - 07/25/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Lived_1978-2043 said:
...and deleted all therein?

That kind of hacker would be a real American hero in our country. :highfive: All ex-cons could get jobs, which then means less crime all over America. Remember, a conviction or a pleading of guilt or an outstanding warrant can more likely scar you for life.





first... ever notice all those CIA/FBI/NSA hacks and shit are no more than
defacement of websites... yeah, there's no fucking hackers, just script
kiddies that like to think they've accomplished something. petty retarded
vandals, is this the shit that you admire?

second, those ex cons have a record for a reason, because they've committed a
crime, got caught and were convicted but clearly you're supportive of violent
criminals such as rapists and murderers and child molesters having free reign
of the areas they live since you want their records erased so it is as if they
never committed a crime in the first place, I mean if someone diddles kids
shouldnt they be held to pay for the repeat offenses or should they always be
given more chances to destroy the lives of children

is this the shit you support, pedophilia, rape and murder, you seem all for it


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21994603 - 07/25/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: DigitalTorture]
    #21994610 - 07/25/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

DigitalTorture said:
That sounds like a wonderful plan. I believe that once a person is kidnapped and thrown into a prison, then let go, there is no need to make it harder on them.





kidnapped... is that how you see it?

was this guy kidnapped, maybe we should make it easier for him, would you like to
start a gofundme to maybe buy him a van, you could even help him load the kids
int it each month

http://fox59.com/2015/07/23/convicted-killer-child-molester-arrested-at-indianapolis-library/


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21994651 - 07/25/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I see your point.

But all shouldn't be given the same lasting problems convicted rapists, convicted pedophiles, and convicted murderers are given for what might be very good reason.


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21994738 - 07/25/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Lived_1978-2043 said:
...and deleted all therein?

That kind of hacker would be a real American hero in our country. :highfive: All ex-cons could get jobs, which then means less crime all over America. Remember, a conviction or a pleading of guilt or an outstanding warrant can more likely scar you for life.





first... ever notice all those CIA/FBI/NSA hacks and shit are no more than
defacement of websites... yeah, there's no fucking hackers, just script
kiddies that like to think they've accomplished something. petty retarded
vandals, is this the shit that you admire?

second, those ex cons have a record for a reason, because they've committed a
crime, got caught and were convicted but clearly you're supportive of violent
criminals such as rapists and murderers and child molesters having free reign
of the areas they live since you want their records erased so it is as if they
never committed a crime in the first place, I mean if someone diddles kids
shouldnt they be held to pay for the repeat offenses or should they always be
given more chances to destroy the lives of children

is this the shit you support, pedophilia, rape and murder, you seem all for it





I can't say which company my dad worked for, but it was a major one with very high-risk information(and a lot of really shady secrets, corruption, and stuff that is par for the course in that particular industry), he spent 25 years maintaining and protecting the network he built for said company.

It wasn't an infrequent thing to have to meet with the FBI and god knows what government entities, but a huge source of his problems were exactly what you described. Getting up at 4am because he'd find out that the Palestinian Liberation Front plastered "death to jews" all over public pages, and when it wasn't that, it was Anonymous. One time he discovered a keylogger(I think that was it, it was a while ago) or some kind of program looking for none other than World of Warcraft cheat codes.

Don't get me wrong, it was a very high stress job and it wasn't all goofy shit and antisemitism, but those were the only stories that I got to hear.


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
    #21994757 - 07/25/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Lived_1978-2043 said:
I see your point.

But all shouldn't be given the same lasting problems convicted rapists, convicted pedophiles, and convicted murderers are given for what might be very good reason.




wanna know what would be a more intelligent set of options?

probably not since you want to set the kiddy diddlers free

1. dont be a fucking criminals
2. work at changing the drug laws so that this shit isnt an issue for drug offenders

so tell me, what's a good reason for armed robbery


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21995262 - 07/25/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

DigitalTorture said:
That sounds like a wonderful plan. I believe that once a person is kidnapped and thrown into a prison, then let go, there is no need to make it harder on them.





kidnapped... is that how you see it?

was this guy kidnapped, maybe we should make it easier for him, would you like to
start a gofundme to maybe buy him a van, you could even help him load the kids
int it each month

http://fox59.com/2015/07/23/convicted-killer-child-molester-arrested-at-indianapolis-library/



With the way this site works, im sure you just inspired another gofundme thread. But I'm sure he wouldn't get any donations.(unless he sticks a carrot in his ass)

Hey op, how about you make a gofundme for this hacking software you want to see happen?


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
    #21995266 - 07/25/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

For the same reason they don';t crash banks, theres backups and backups to the backups that arent hooked up to the web.


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Asante]
    #21995306 - 07/25/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah Im relatively sure theyre kept in both paperbased and digital formats. You'd have to figure out where theyre kept and level the building to destroy them.


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #21995316 - 07/25/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

LuSiD enthusiast said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

DigitalTorture said:
That sounds like a wonderful plan. I believe that once a person is kidnapped and thrown into a prison, then let go, there is no need to make it harder on them.





kidnapped... is that how you see it?

was this guy kidnapped, maybe we should make it easier for him, would you like to
start a gofundme to maybe buy him a van, you could even help him load the kids
int it each month

http://fox59.com/2015/07/23/convicted-killer-child-molester-arrested-at-indianapolis-library/



With the way this site works, im sure you just inspired another gofundme thread. But I'm sure he wouldn't get any donations.(unless he sticks a carrot in his ass)

Hey op, how about you make a gofundme for this hacking software you want to see happen?





wanting to see pedophiles have their recods erased I'm not too sure
that a carrot isnt in the foreseeable future for him, after all,
chester needs a new van


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21997344 - 07/25/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

LuSiD enthusiast said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

DigitalTorture said:
That sounds like a wonderful plan. I believe that once a person is kidnapped and thrown into a prison, then let go, there is no need to make it harder on them.





kidnapped... is that how you see it?

was this guy kidnapped, maybe we should make it easier for him, would you like to
start a gofundme to maybe buy him a van, you could even help him load the kids
int it each month

http://fox59.com/2015/07/23/convicted-killer-child-molester-arrested-at-indianapolis-library/



With the way this site works, im sure you just inspired another gofundme thread. But I'm sure he wouldn't get any donations.(unless he sticks a carrot in his ass)

Hey op, how about you make a gofundme for this hacking software you want to see happen?





wanting to see pedophiles have their recods erased I'm not too sure
that a carrot isnt in the foreseeable future for him, after all,
chester needs a new van



Wait a carrot in op's future, or the pedo's future? Either way if their bent over, the carrot isn't exactly forsseable from his point of view.


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #21997539 - 07/25/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I spent my life staying out of trouble and being careful with illegal drugs. My clean record took effort so why should a convicted criminal get his record erased? A record is a consequence of getting caught, one you knew before committing crime. I am sure there are ways to get it expunged or get a pardon or something. And as others have said I want the pedos and sex offenders to have a black mark on their record for life that anyone can find. Hell I would like to tattoo to their crimes on their forehead.


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: my3rdeye]
    #21997640 - 07/25/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I"m not sure at the accuracy in some of these comments. Very important systems (government/banks) get hacked into all the time.

The reason no one goes after national criminal databases is because there is no money in it.  Generally speaking the groups with a lot of skill want money.


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Re: Why hasn't a hacker hacked into the criminal data base used against people,... [Re: teamkiller]
    #21997776 - 07/25/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Some dope-head broke into my house and stole my sisters computer, purse, and some jewelry back when I was 17.  He was also stealing guns and giving them to people in Philadelphia.  I  had never done anything to piss him off i had never even spoken to the kid he was a few years older than me.  Im glad he has a record and was convicted of a felony.  Sometimes the jail sentence just isn't long enough so im glad felonies carry lasting repercussions


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