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Ajahn Don
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Re: A Magical Journey: The Emerald Emperor Strikes Back [Re: Tarrnack]
#22071149 - 08/10/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you live in the tropics, man? That's a lot of contamination problems, it seems to me. What do I know? I've never seen one.
whew
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Re: A Magical Journey: The Emerald Emperor Strikes Back [Re: Ajahn Don]
#22074843 - 08/11/15 04:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I live on the very humid Long Island NY. I expected it a bit from those cakes though. They were contaminated experiments to begin with. And like I said the baby jar was pretty much made out of a contam filter so I expected that...smelled like cheese...The rest of the cakes and grows are as clean as can be, smell great with bright white potential.
I have a milestone update to post here in a sec so stay tuned
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A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: Tarrnack]
#22074904 - 08/11/15 05:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Horrible wrestling puns aside look at this folks! Pins! Fruits! I did it!


I'm really happy and proud of this at the moment. Out of all the projects the one that was least cared for showed the first signs of fruits. Its been 4-5 days since i popped it into that jar. This whole process has been all over the place for me. Again I cant thank the community enough for there help and support. OK enough blowjobs , on to the rest of the projects.
The savage 1# looking yoked as hell. Its only a matter of time before I start seeing pins.

M1 and M2 looking great. I noised there was a little bit of water under the tub. Ended up kind of vertically shaking the FC to get rid of the excess water. Worked like a charm. Both chambers smell very clean with just a hint of mushroom. I have high hopes for those 2... regardless of there past.


The only real bummer is the other half of M3 in the spawn bag. I see another hint of mold in the same general area. I know some contam is OK for a mono tub but I'm not sure what to do. I'm thinking about isolating it outside and see what happens, maybe get a flush, then toss it. What do you folks guys think?
All in all, I think this is the mark of a wonderful milestone in my mycology carrier. I'm ecstatic!
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taGyo
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Re: A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: Tarrnack]
#22075431 - 08/11/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you have an FAE problem:
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taGyo said: Fanning is not FAE. FAE is the passive act of air exchange, reducing CO2 levels and increasing O2. Mushrooms are closer to humans then plants so imagine if I put you in a room with a limited supply of oxygen and expected you to not only live but produce a Mona Lisa at the same time. You would suffer and probably die while drawing stick figures.
In the wild mushrooms are CONSTANTLY blasted by fresh air. There are very few places on Earth that are 100% humidity all the time. Mushrooms like fluctuation, this is what they're used to.
I've done a few cakes and a bunch of monotubs. You don't want it to be WET honestly. You want it to get a little dry before you mist again. Pins form from water evaporating on the surface. How do you think I knew you were over-misting and recommended that you cut down? Because those cakes look like they're getting loved to death. Without a proper environment the cakes won't pin.
DO NOT FAN IN BETWEEN MISTINGS. Fanning is to quickly destroy the environment so the fresh air coming in will have to pull more water from the perlite (Which you should also be misting lightly) to restart the humidity. This gives your cakes a jump start on the drying process and also wicks away excessive moisture from the cakes.
The reason why they're growing out like that past the dry verm layer is because they're getting over-saturated which is telling them they're not supposed to pin yet. Mushrooms don't like overly wet environments. Your SGFC should be 6-12" away from the wall and 6-12" away from the floor. In the middle of the room is ideal.
In the future the oven isn't necessary. But use it if you like.
DON'T ROLL FOR THE SECOND FLUSH.
Are their holes on the bottom? Raise that higher. Do you have qt jars?
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Re: A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: taGyo]
#22076079 - 08/11/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmm. What makes you think that exactly? Is it that the myclilum keeps growing instead of fruiting because of lack of FAE or too much moisture? Ether way I went ahead and drilled some more holes in my FC's...and like a moron I accidentally drilled about a cm into M3...I ended up plugging it up with a piece of washed perlite...I still cant believe I did that.
That quote you linked me made perfect sense. I'm giving it too much love. Too much misting and not enough FAE. I may just have a fan going in the room. The air gets pretty still in here sometimes. I noticed it just now smoking pot. The smoke barely moves. Making adjustments now. I was wondering why there was pinning in my jar but not on the cakes.
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taGyo
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Re: A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: Tarrnack]
#22077426 - 08/11/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you can avoid the fan and just find a room that has more air flow it would be better.
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Re: A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: taGyo]
#22079962 - 08/12/15 05:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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OK so I ended up drilling more holes in both tubs...then drilled a few more. My bit was the one under 1/4. Its like 38/78 or something. Slightly smaller so I had to make a bit more of them...or so I thought. My humidity tanked. To counter that I looked to some pillow stuffing I harvested from the wild a week or so ago. Don't worry its clean. I placed 4 small puff balls in the corners and 2 in the center against the walls. Humidity is regulating again...I just need to find that sweet spot. Inherently I feel like my smaller FC makes it a bit harder to keep humidity. I'm going big next time.
Also birthed, dunked, and set up another experiment from the long dormant #6. I wanted to keep it really simple and I didn't have RF or anything. So I took a cookie container and made a thin bed of verm, crumpled up the cake on top of in a even layer. I cut out a hole a fixed a gause pad over the dome for FAE. Hopefully that's enough. Even though this is much different it worked for the M3 jar. I guess I'll call it the Virmvitro Tek for posterity.
(Warning! Do not follow said tek. OP is a scrub with delusions of grandeur. He hasn't even produced his first fruits without going off the rails several times. Now hes going around naming shit. What a complete ass. Its a small wonder why the mods don't ban him. They even encourage his madness! Blind leading the blind if you ask me..............wait.................who am I...?)
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Re: A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: Tarrnack]
#22080803 - 08/12/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So you took some verm and put it on the bottom of a crumble cake?
Put it on top. It won't help on the bottom though.
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Re: A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: taGyo]
#22080843 - 08/12/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its a very thin layer. My reasoning being it was meant to simulate dirt a little. I would of used dirt like my other jar but my mom stole the last of my organic potting soil. I would of just put in there by itself but I wanted to add something. There is still virm on top.
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taGyo
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Re: A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: Tarrnack]
#22080920 - 08/12/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Verm and dirt are completely different .
But okay for science.
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Re: A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: Tarrnack]
#22081037 - 08/12/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was thinking about these amazing organisms. How they live and reproduce. My current predicament of over saturating my cakes. Its safe in that state. It will keep growing. Fruits are made in uncertain times. There created out of fear. The fear of not being able to sustain itself anymore. A need to continue itself by fruiting because its dying...
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Re: A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: taGyo]
#22081068 - 08/12/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You dare question the revoultionary trailblazer that is Virmvitro Tek!?
But seriously, I'm well aware of the differences . I just didn't want it to sweat against container...cause...reasons...I wish I had potting soil.................Vurmvitro Tek is the way of the future!
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Re: A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: Tarrnack]
#22081077 - 08/12/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Over saturation leads to contamination germination.
Plenty of edible farmers do various shock techniques to induce fruiting like dropping subs or electrocution. As far as I can recall, we don't benefit from shocks as much when growing cubes.
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Re: A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: Munchauzen]
#22081132 - 08/12/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Elictrocution!? Wtf!? Electra Tek!? Why does that work?
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Re: A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: Tarrnack]
#22081263 - 08/12/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ajahn Don
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Re: A Magical Journey : He's Got The Leg Going For A Pin 1,2, Atleast 12! [Re: Tarrnack]
#22082913 - 08/12/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tarrnack said: my mom stole the last of my organic potting soil
Your mom must know you're growing magical mushrooms, right? Either she is way, way cooler than my mom ever thought about being, or oblivious! What's a nerd doing with potting soil? I'm way more interested in hearing about your mom.

Keep throwing shit against the wall, man! It's the only way we ever found out anything! Who cares if you're pathfinding the middle line on an interstate?
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Re: A Magical Journey : Throwing Science At The Wall To See What Sticks [Re: Ajahn Don]
#22084024 - 08/12/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have the Apature science methodology. "we are throwing science at the wall to see what sticks".
BTW my folks are cool as shit. They know full well what I'm doing. Remember I'm also growing seedlings. There more interested in that. They both smoke pot. My Moms not thrilled about it but still supportive. My dad is allot more. He even wants to eventually eat a few. My second PC is on the dinning room table...she wants it out of there. I don't blame her. I just cant find a decent place for it right now I was thinking about clearing off this 3 tiered stainless steel shelving unit. It would be perfect for mycology and I can free up some much needed space. One thing you need top realize about me is that I pretty much live like a Japanese person. My house is very small and its hard sometimes to accommodate. Most of the shit you see in the pictures are within arms length of me right now. On all sides I'm surrounded with distractions. 3 monitors sit on a large table, audio recording equipment, books, comics, games, posters, merch, ect. My FC sits on top of my hotel fridge next to the coffee maker.
I guess you could call me a nerd. I'm many things really. I'm more punk then nerd in attitude and appearance. 6'3, hair is a 2 1/2 foot long, half of of which is a blue and red braid (meant to represent the duality of man and how there intertwined in myself. The left, the right, black, white, good and evil, yin and yang, life and death ect). I collect knives and practice there defensive applications. I wear buttons and suspenders (which are extremely helpful for toting around fairly heavy metal objects). I'm a nice person but like the Clash song says "if i get aggression I give it two times back". I'm the guy that stands up and yells at the jerk talking on his cell phone in the movie theater. I don't mind a little heat. I actually love a bit of tension sometimes. I play allot of competitive video games. One or two I can play pretty well. Some of my friends are tournament competitors and do pretty good for themselves. A bit of that has rubbed of on me I think. If you wanna brawl with me in Street Fighter 4, Quake 3, or Team Fortress 2 (or anything for that matter) hit me up at Tarrnack on Steam
The truth is I've been multiple people in my life. I have always been true to myself but I have been changed as a person many times. Not that I lack conviction in my own personal beliefs but that I have walked in a few different pairs of shoes in my 25 years. Opinions have changed. Hung out with wildly different groups of people. Lost friends. I did shitty things to some. I've been treated poorly myself. I've missed opportunities and have gotten very lucky at times. I've been extremely happy in certain points in my life, as well as experience the worst of it. I have too many hobbies and feel like nothing is set in stone. I want it all but I only need a little to make me happy.
I'm pretty much a walking contradiction. A strange Punk/Hippie amalgam prototype not yet ready store shelves. This is me. I think I'm in between stages at the moment. For the first time in a while I like where this is going.
Not sure why I went off like that but I guess I just wanted to tell you and everyone else more about who I am. I know this is a cultivation thread but it has kindof morphed into this self indulgent public journal. I'll tighten things up a bit. I know I'm partially under the delusion people give a shit about me and what I think, but I just felt like putting that out there. For posterity at least.
Edited by Tarrnack (08/14/15 02:34 AM)
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Tarrnack
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Re: A Magical Journey: I Got My Tickets [Re: Tarrnack]
#22089942 - 08/14/15 03:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright folks. In the short time since pinning the little guys have pretty much doubled in size every day!




There a little on the small side I think but still looking good.I was supprised to notise some of the vailes have snaped. Should I harvest them?! I wasnt planning on it but today would be perfect for my first trip.


There is no way I'm getting my fingers in there. Any suggestions on how to harvest? I was thinking about gently loosening it from the soil with chopsticks then slide it out in the open. Then I'll just pop it back in. Also the thought of printing the big guy did cross my mind. I like the way they clustered. Possibly a good trait? A quick conformation would be very appreciated. I'm pretty fucking excited atm!
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Tarrnack
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Re: A Magical Journey: I Got My Tickets- Buckled Up [Re: Tarrnack]
#22090106 - 08/14/15 06:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I went to weigh one of the little guys.
Hmm 1.7g... FUCK IT! *nom*.
Were doin it folks! This wasn't planned! Were doing it now! I plan on eating a good 8g more. I'm isolating myself here today for science and observation.
I'll keep you fine freaks posted all along the way.
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Re: A Magical Journey: I Got My Tickets- Taking Off [Re: Tarrnack]
#22090221 - 08/14/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok so I ate about 10gs fresh then took a shower. I felt something. I downloaded Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas to watch and walked around the house a bit. I started to get a massive grin...didnt realize it then instinctavly tried to stop it. Wait...just let that feeling be. I hate when I read something like that but honestly trying to stop it was a little like trying to stop mid piss but less intense. A genuine grin chiseled on my face. It lasted like 2 mins. I'm typing now.This is going to be interesting. I'm not sure how hands on this will be. I may go against what I initially said about isolation. It is a nice day out today. I'll try and post as I go along.
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