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Tarrnack
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope [Re: PussyFart] 1
#22056650 - 08/07/15 04:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Whats not proper about it my blunt and vague friend?
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope [Re: Tarrnack]
#22056655 - 08/07/15 04:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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1/4" holes every 2" in a grid pattern on all 6 sides.
Just by looking at your lid I can tell you did not follow this. Those holes were just drilled out at random.
Then the tub should be raised, so air can pass up thru the holes in the bottom.
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope [Re: PussyFart]
#22056660 - 08/07/15 04:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sure. I plan on raising it today. As far as the holes go, does it really matter all that much? I mean all of the holes are more or less 2" apart with plenty of FAE. I have a fan in the back and a grow light. I was well aware a SGFC calles for a grid pattern. I thought it was trivial. The spacing is whats important. I respect your advice but I feel like your being a little strict.
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope [Re: Tarrnack]
#22056665 - 08/07/15 04:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tarrnack said: Sure. I plan on raising it today. As far as the holes go, does it really matter all that much? I mean all of the holes are more or less 2" apart with plenty of FAE.I have a fan in the back and a grow light I was well aware a SGFC calles for a grid pattern. I have a fan in the back and a grow light. I respect your advice but I feel like your being a little strict.
Well, when people do not follow a simple tek and think they can just wing it, and then come here and post pictures of their mistake, when they get corrected, they often get kind of butthurt.
Yes it matters that much, and the tek says place the chamber in a room with no running fans....
A little too strict? You totally disregarded what the tek called for.......this is not mycotopia, we will give constructive criticism here, and not just pat u on the back for amateur mistakes.
I am sorry if I offended you, but please take no offense, just follow the tek for the best results.
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope [Re: PussyFart]
#22056707 - 08/07/15 05:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude I didn't just "wing it". I'm obviously no expert but I do my research. I hear FAE is important and you should fan to promote this. Also pinning is caused by the evaporation of water on the cake. Fanning would only help this process. I thought it was ideal. I never heard anyone say you shouldn't do it.
I was a little butthurt to be honest though. I did all this stuff, recovered from a catastrophic infection and finally made it to the FC and all you could say was "you done fucked up". Being a noob as well I have to embarrassingly ask what I did wrong. I was never offended just a little taken back and humbled.
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope [Re: Tarrnack]
#22056718 - 08/07/15 05:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tarrnack said: Dude I didn't just "wing it". I'm obviously no expert but I do my research. I hear FAE is important and you should fan to promote this.
Yes, but you only fan after misting, when a drop in RH is needed for evaporation to occur, and you fan out the chamber for like 10 seconds with the tubs lid, not an actual fan. You just want to evacuate some of the humid air out of the chamber after misting. If you do not mist the cakes, there is no need to fan out the chamber.
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Tarrnack said: Also pinning is caused by the evaporation of water on the cake. Fanning would only help this process. I thought it was ideal. I never heard anyone say you shouldn't do it.
But having a fan in the room will only mess with the functionality of the chamber you chose to use.
A quick search will prove it.
Fanning out the chamber after misting is what is meant by "fanning".
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Tarrnack said: I was a little butthurt to be honest though. I did all this stuff, recovered from a catastrophic infection and finally made it to the FC and all you could say was "you done fucked up". Being a noob as well I have to embarrassingly ask what I did wrong. I was never offended just a little taken back and humbled.
It's ok, I fucked up a lot learning as well, it's ok...
That being said, I mean no offense, only good.....I want you to succeed.
In all reality you could have fucked up a lot worse lol.
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Edited by PussyFart (08/07/15 05:21 AM)
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope [Re: PussyFart]
#22056732 - 08/07/15 05:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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dont take offence tarnack, when you strike 20k posts you kinda just wanna get to the point. a thumbup is nice and all but dont be offended for not getting one rather just suck up the info he's giving you and give yourself a thumb up come harvest time!
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope [Re: PussyFart]
#22056762 - 08/07/15 05:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well shit. I'm surprised I didn't know that...I just assumed...I remember someone using a CPU fan in there PC.. Its something I overlooked. The 2 mantras I adapted in my studies were "Be patient" and "don't over think things". I should of done more research.
I totialy understand that you are trying to help. I have read many of your comments on different threads. You have taught me quite allot about mycology. You don't have to explain yourself. I was never offended just a but humbled. Looks like my shit was not as together as I had hoped . Plowing ahead. What should I do about the PC? I can go and clean up the holes a bit. Hopefully it will be a decent enough environment for my little guys.
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope [Re: spacechildo]
#22056766 - 08/07/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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For sure. Don't get me wrong I wasn't offended. I just couldn't help but be a little defensive there. I know when I'm wrong.
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope [Re: Tarrnack]
#22057145 - 08/07/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tarrnack said: For sure. Don't get me wrong I wasn't offended. I just couldn't help but be a little defensive there. I know when I'm wrong.
I for one did not see this coming. Your humility is impressive. I've gotten a lot wrong myself, but not because I was winging it. There's a lot to learn.
What I don't understand in reading dozens of threads is why people go off the rez so early in their growing. It's like someone who doesn't know how to cook refusing to follow the recipe. Before anyone becomes a chef, they have to be a line cook. Learn the rules, then break them. My guess is people here are smarter than the average bear, so they often think they know better. Or they are too young. Not that I'm accusing you, Tarrnack. You've shown with your willingness to admit your errors a maturity even people my age (or esp) have difficulty with.
Not to highjack your thread, but I what size holes did you drill in your SGFC? For some reason, I missed the 1/4" and drilled 3/8th inch holes in mine. This might be too much FAE. My cakes have shown nothing after several days in the chamber, so I'm wondering what to do next.
Keep on trucking, man. I think you have contributions to make here.
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope [Re: Ajahn Don]
#22057421 - 08/07/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ajahn Don said: Learn the rules, then break them.

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Ajahn Don said: For some reason, I missed the 1/4" and drilled 3/8th inch holes in mine. This might be too much FAE. My cakes have shown nothing after several days in the chamber, so I'm wondering what to do next..
3/8" holes just means you'll have to mist more often. if you are around enough and learn to read the cakes/mushrooms it will work even better than the 1/4" holed chambers. another inch or 2 of perlite can only do good too. several days doesnt mean much, it can easily take 10-14 days to pin and thats assuming they already had 7-10 days consolidation time before fruiting.
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Ajahn Don said:Keep on trucking, man.
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope [Re: Ajahn Don]
#22061535 - 08/08/15 04:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It was more of a oversight then a disrespect for the tek. The side projects were not planned (well the rye seed berries were) but instead out of necessity. Discovering that mold changed everything.
Your correct. They are 3/8th holes. That was the highest bit I could get my hands on. My PC is working pretty well so far. At least 90% humidity consistently and always mid 70's. Cake looks healthy and is whitening up nicely. I'm not sure why your not pinning yet. I say just give it time. It took 18 days for one of my jars to start kickin. There mysterious and fickle organisms.
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope -Pinning? [Re: Tarrnack]
#22061555 - 08/08/15 05:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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OK gang what you looking at is half of M3's mostly invetro setup. Is that the start of pinning towards the bottom? Looks like it. The other cakes are looking good as well. The 2nd small jar smells a little funny though. Not sure what that's about. Smells a bit like cheese.
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope -Pinning? [Re: Tarrnack]
#22064501 - 08/08/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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looking good!
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope -Pinning? [Re: cronicr]
#22064847 - 08/08/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks buddy . I'm about to ul some update pics.
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope - The Fuzz [Re: Tarrnack]
#22065170 - 08/08/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Things are looking good so far. Temps and humidity are fine and from what I can tell there is some nice active progress going on in my little guys.
My last pic post shows the other half of M3 in its mostly invetro setup. Looks like its the first of the gang to hit puberty! Pinning! You know they grow up so fast *sniffles*
#1 here looking strong as always.

M1 and M2 are looking surprisingly good with no signs of mold so far. I'm hoping for the best but still ready for the worst.

1/2 of M3 is showing nice progress in its bag. So does the baby bud sprout. I'll probably need to transplant it at some point but its fine for now. I want everyone to have there fair share. 
The pot pot isnt really showing much progress but then again it was the least supplemented experiment of them all. 1 drop of Cambodian spore liquid.

Oh! Look at that! 100+ posts! I'm lucky to of found a home in this community and I hope to some day help out a noob in the same shoes as me. I'm forever grateful to this wonderful community and its teachers. Without them this place wouldn't be what it is today. I thank you for all that you do.
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Re: A Magical Journey: A New Hope - The Fuzz [Re: Tarrnack]
#22065277 - 08/09/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: A Magical Journey: The Emerald Emperor Strikes Back [Re: cronicr]
#22066339 - 08/09/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I go to check on my half of M3 in its spawn bag setup. I notised the start of a mold infection next to the seedling. A very small amount. I sterilized a spoon and removed the area in my backyard. I then patched it with some verm. This will most likely be a battle I cant win but I'll try my best to get a flush before I toss it.
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Re: A Magical Journey: The Emerald Emperor Strikes Back [Re: Tarrnack]
#22066348 - 08/09/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: A Magical Journey: The Emerald Emperor Strikes Back [Re: Tarrnack]
#22071112 - 08/10/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I ended up tossing the cheese smelling baby jar experiment into the compost. It was just barely showing signs of mold. I keep catching the emerald emperor very early but that one just wasnt worth keeping. It smelt bad and it started to get this gray stringy stuff going on. I thinks its a type of contam. Fair enough, the jar was made out of mostly the dry verm filter.
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