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First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug?
    #21992746 - 07/24/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys, so I am experienced with shrooms and DMT, but this will be my first time taking LSD.

Later this week I will be coming accross 2 tabs of white fluff 200ug LSD that I know for a 100% fact are pure LSD and not a RC.

After this, however, I will possibly not be able to get any more for quite a long time, so if I only take 200ug first then I am stuck with the same dose for the next time.. which leads me to my question:

Should I take 200ug or be mr. confident like I always am (I took an eigth of shrooms my first time and smoked weed and literally thought I died) and just take the full 400ug? and what would be the major differences in my experience? Thanks.

P.S. when it comes to having a terrifying experience, I have dealt with a few of those and I'm not too worried about that, I'm moreso worried about forgetting most of the experience due to the intensity


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: mexxel]
    #21992826 - 07/24/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You won't forget unless you take lots more than that. I've taken 1000ug and had a hell of a time. As a matter of fact, time just stopped for me that night.... Well for a few hours that is.


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: DigitalTorture]
    #21992851 - 07/24/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You won't forget unless you take lots more than that. I've taken 1000ug and had a hell of a time. As a matter of fact, time just stopped for me that night.... Well for a few hours that is.




Time stopped for me on the eigth of mushrooms as well, but unfortunately it hit me like a ton of bricks and I forgot most of it. But if 400ug will be remembered with ease then I see no reason not to embark :smile:


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: DigitalTorture] * 1
    #21992959 - 07/24/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's not 200ug.

If it really is, then you should take half of one for your first time. But it's not, so you should probably just eat one, which is probably more like 100ug anyway.

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You won't forget unless you take lots more than that. I've taken 1000ug and had a hell of a time. As a matter of fact, time just stopped for me that night.... Well for a few hours that is.



I'd like to know how you guys think you can measure your doses like this.

Good rule of thumb is take whatever your dealer says they are and divide it in half.

Dealer says 'these are 200ug', cut that in half, that's way more realistic.

There are exceptions. But in general blotter is laid with 100ug hits max, as far as I know. And LSD is a lot more potent than people make it out to be.

To say you took a milligram of LSD and all you can say is that time stopped for a few hours and you had a hell of a time.... Somehow I doubt you ate anywhere near that much LSD.

Sorry to be the cynic but somebody's going to come in here and do it, might as well be me

Anyway enjoy your LSD! 100ug is plenty for a first trip, strong even. And there's no way you'll ever know how much is in those doses so no point in worrying about it anyway. If it's not enough take more next time!


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: drr]
    #21992977 - 07/24/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It's not 200ug.

If it really is, then you should take half of one for your first time. But it's not, so you should probably just eat one, which is probably more like 100ug anyway.

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You won't forget unless you take lots more than that. I've taken 1000ug and had a hell of a time. As a matter of fact, time just stopped for me that night.... Well for a few hours that is.



I'd like to know how you guys think you can measure your doses like this.

Good rule of thumb is take whatever your dealer says they are and divide it in half.

Dealer says 'these are 200ug', cut that in half, that's way more realistic.

There are exceptions. But in general blotter is laid with 100ug hits max, as far as I know. And LSD is a lot more potent than people make it out to be.

To say you took a milligram of LSD and all you can say is that time stopped for a few hours and you had a hell of a time.... Somehow I doubt you ate anywhere near that much LSD.

Sorry to be the cynic but somebody's going to come in here and do it, might as well be me

Anyway enjoy your LSD! 100ug is plenty for a first trip, strong even. And there's no way you'll ever know how much is in those doses so no point in worrying about it anyway. If it's not enough take more next time!




I'm not going to say where I'm getting it, but let's just say its not from a "dealer". The "Vendor" is extremely reputable.. in fact, the only way you can be more sure of the dose is laying it yourself.


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: mexxel]
    #21993006 - 07/24/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It's not 200ug.

If it really is, then you should take half of one for your first time. But it's not, so you should probably just eat one, which is probably more like 100ug anyway.

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DigitalTorture said:
You won't forget unless you take lots more than that. I've taken 1000ug and had a hell of a time. As a matter of fact, time just stopped for me that night.... Well for a few hours that is.



I'd like to know how you guys think you can measure your doses like this.

Good rule of thumb is take whatever your dealer says they are and divide it in half.

Dealer says 'these are 200ug', cut that in half, that's way more realistic.

There are exceptions. But in general blotter is laid with 100ug hits max, as far as I know. And LSD is a lot more potent than people make it out to be.

To say you took a milligram of LSD and all you can say is that time stopped for a few hours and you had a hell of a time.... Somehow I doubt you ate anywhere near that much LSD.

Sorry to be the cynic but somebody's going to come in here and do it, might as well be me

Anyway enjoy your LSD! 100ug is plenty for a first trip, strong even. And there's no way you'll ever know how much is in those doses so no point in worrying about it anyway. If it's not enough take more next time!




I'm not going to say where I'm getting it, but let's just say its not from a "dealer". The "Vendor" is extremely reputable.. in fact, the only way you can be more sure of the dose is laying it yourself.



Well then,

You should know that 100ug could be considered 'strong'

250ug is what Hofmann took on 'bicycle day' that drove him temporarily insane

And 400ug would be impossible to describe, extremely intense, probably frightening. I think my highest dose was around this area, maybe 400-500ug, as had eaten 5 very potent hits of WOW that were around 100ug each. I would NEVER wish that for a first trip on anybody. It was extreme, to say the least. I'm glad I experienced it, and I never want to do it again. The world was coming apart at the seams and I felt absolutely insane.

So if you REALLY think that those tabs are 200ug each, like really believe it, my suggestion would be to eat 1 max (and that would be heavy for a first timer who isn't prepared), maybe even start with half. Here's a good test: If you eat half of one of those hits, and you don't trip pretty hard, they're not 200ug each.


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: drr]
    #21993028 - 07/24/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It's not 200ug.

If it really is, then you should take half of one for your first time. But it's not, so you should probably just eat one, which is probably more like 100ug anyway.





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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: drr]
    #21993043 - 07/24/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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drr said:
It's not 200ug.

If it really is, then you should take half of one for your first time. But it's not, so you should probably just eat one, which is probably more like 100ug anyway.

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DigitalTorture said:
You won't forget unless you take lots more than that. I've taken 1000ug and had a hell of a time. As a matter of fact, time just stopped for me that night.... Well for a few hours that is.



I'd like to know how you guys think you can measure your doses like this.

Good rule of thumb is take whatever your dealer says they are and divide it in half.

Dealer says 'these are 200ug', cut that in half, that's way more realistic.

There are exceptions. But in general blotter is laid with 100ug hits max, as far as I know. And LSD is a lot more potent than people make it out to be.

To say you took a milligram of LSD and all you can say is that time stopped for a few hours and you had a hell of a time.... Somehow I doubt you ate anywhere near that much LSD.

Sorry to be the cynic but somebody's going to come in here and do it, might as well be me

Anyway enjoy your LSD! 100ug is plenty for a first trip, strong even. And there's no way you'll ever know how much is in those doses so no point in worrying about it anyway. If it's not enough take more next time!




I'm not going to say where I'm getting it, but let's just say its not from a "dealer". The "Vendor" is extremely reputable.. in fact, the only way you can be more sure of the dose is laying it yourself.



Well then,

You should know that 100ug could be considered 'strong'

250ug is what Hofmann took on 'bicycle day' that drove him temporarily insane

And 400ug would be impossible to describe, extremely intense, probably frightening. I think my highest dose was around this area, maybe 400-500ug, as had eaten 5 very potent hits of WOW that were around 100ug each. I would NEVER wish that for a first trip on anybody. It was extreme, to say the least. I'm glad I experienced it, and I never want to do it again. The world was coming apart at the seams and I felt absolutely insane.

So if you REALLY think that those tabs are 200ug each, like really believe it, my suggestion would be to eat 1 max (and that would be heavy for a first timer who isn't prepared), maybe even start with half. Here's a good test: If you eat half of one of those hits, and you don't trip pretty hard, they're not 200ug each.




Ah, thanks for the advice. I've gone insane when I took shrooms before and I would prefer to not experience it again.. in that case, I'm leaning towards just eating one for the first time, and maybe eating the other one another time but combined with a few grams of cubensis :smile:


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: mexxel]
    #21993061 - 07/24/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Define "gone insane on mushrooms"

My friend has psychotic fits more often on LSD than mushies.

Psychedelics aren't for him.

If you're prone to the same thing psychedelics probably aren't for you either.

Seeing someone in a psychedelic induced psychotic fit is SCARY AS HELL.


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21993086 - 07/24/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

And don't take that to mean "you'll go insane if you eat XXX ug of LSD" or something :lol: That's not what I meant, but you get the picture. It's a lot stronger than people make it out to be, by weight, and people hype up the dose when they're selling it. It's pretty standard for good LSD blotter to be 100ug per hit. Most is probably anywhere from 40-80ug.

100ug should be enough for visuals and the full deal. Consider that one standard full dose.

Also I was being loose with my use of the word 'insane' in my post above. My 400-500ug trip was 'insane' in that it was beyond anything I could comprehend or explain and it completely turned my world upside down. But I didn't "go insane". I had a lot of trouble communicating and was pretty far gone for about 16 hours but I didn't lose control of myself or whatever 'going insane' implies. I just mean to say that it's more intense than you think it's going to be, if you were really to eat 400ug.


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21993113 - 07/24/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Define "gone insane on mushrooms"

My friend has psychotic fits more often on LSD than mushies.

Psychedelics aren't for him.

If you're prone to the same thing psychedelics probably aren't for you either.

Seeing someone in a psychedelic induced psychotic fit is SCARY AS HELL.




When I went insane on mushrooms, (3.2g and told they were POTENT, I also smoked a good amount of weed which kicked them in HARD) I literally lost all sense of time. Time had no meaning to me.

My friend that I was with does not know how to trip sit and was being an asshole and laughing at my state. I was stuck in a thought loop, I literally thought that I died and was being sentenced to hell because I believed that "everything is resistance" I would ask my friend to just please get me some water, and he would laugh, and I wouldn't get it.

And I realized it's like that with everything in life. You desire money, but you don't get it. You might desire women or love, but you don't get it. We are in a constant state of lack.

That is what I remember from it anyway. The rest my mind blocked out and forgot because it was too intense. But I remember repeating over and over in my mind "I'm insane. This is what it's like to be insane"


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: drr]
    #21993126 - 07/24/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Take two tabs for a mild trip with the walls melting and what not. One tab will just have you feeling it. I like 3 and white fluff is the shit :thumbup:. The trip will be good at two or great at 3 trust me I used to sell white fluff.


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: thewanderer25]
    #21993136 - 07/24/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Take two tabs for a mild trip with the walls melting and what not. One tab will just have you feeling it. I like 3 and white fluff is the shit :thumbup:. The trip will be good at two or great at 3 trust me I used to sell white fluff.




Well it seems I have various opinions here. Drr says that one tab could possibly be too much, and you say to take them both. Are you refering to 100ug tabs? Because there is a high chance that these tabs are 200ug as advertised.


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: mexxel]
    #21993154 - 07/24/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The chances of it being white fluff and the tab being 200 ug is small to none. However I have yet to experience any dose of acid I dont like unless its below 200 ug. You should do what feels right there's no way to know how many ug is in a tab even if your friend makes the stuff simply because there will be degrading of LSD to ISO-LSD which is inactive. :shrug: If you liked an 8th of shrooms you would love 3 hits of any acid except owsley's white lightning but that hasn't been around since the late 70s. Acid is much more mellow and calm than shrooms and it has you more clear headed and less delusional. Ive eaten over 35 hits of white lightning and would do it again. But my first dose of LSD was 3 hits and it was fine just a little anxiety inducing at points but over all the most pleasant thing I have expersained. Just remember if its bitter its a spitter real LSD is tasteless.


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: thewanderer25]
    #21993164 - 07/24/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Oh and I advise you get a safety item (mines a special lighter) and if you feel scared pull out the item and play with it. Just remember children and people on acid are very similar so child's toys are acceptable.


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: thewanderer25]
    #21993182 - 07/24/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Oh and I advise you get a safety item (mines a special lighter) and if you feel scared pull out the item and play with it. Just remember children and people on acid are very similar so child's toys are acceptable.



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The chances of it being white fluff and the tab being 200 ug is small to none. However I have yet to experience any dose of acid I dont like unless its below 200 ug. You should do what feels right there's no way to know how many ug is in a tab even if your friend makes the stuff simply because there will be degrading of LSD to ISO-LSD which is inactive. :shrug: If you liked an 8th of shrooms you would love 3 hits of any acid except owsley's white lightning but that hasn't been around since the late 70s. Acid is much more mellow and calm than shrooms and it has you more clear headed and less delusional. Ive eaten over 35 hits of white lightning and would do it again. But my first dose of LSD was 3 hits and it was fine just a little anxiety inducing at points but over all the most pleasant thing I have expersained. Just remember if its bitter its a spitter real LSD is tasteless.




Ah, Ok. I'll take your word for it then. 2 tabs shouldn't be enough to put me in a state of psychosis as bad as the shrooms did.

And I like your idea of the safety item. Not sure what I'd use though, I don't have anything truly sentimental to me. I'll have to think about what to use for that one..


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: mexxel]
    #21993188 - 07/24/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I use a piece of petrified would or a wooden rune

I didn't realize other people did this lol

I got the idea after after watching Inception lol


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21993198 - 07/24/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I use a piece of petrified would or a wooden rune

I didn't realize other people did this lol

I got the idea after after watching Inception lol




haha yeah that's what it reminded me of, although psychedelic states are similar to dream states I guess so it makes sense


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: mexxel]
    #21993200 - 07/24/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well it may be more than the 8th of shrooms. It really depends on what you mean acid does not mess with your head the same way shrooms does. On acid everything is funny and cartoony its really mellow but also frightening at times. The visuals are better imo because of how real they seem it will mostly be stuff like the paint dripping off the walls or seeing someones face melt. Acid gives very drippy hallucinations shrooms is mostly morepen rapid things that scare me. But LSD is a completely different thing than shrooms its not nearly as rapid and life or death kinda feelings.


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Re: First time taking LSD, 200ug or 400ug? [Re: thewanderer25]
    #21993215 - 07/24/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Well it may be more than the 8th of shrooms. It really depends on what you mean acid does not mess with your head the same way shrooms does. On acid everything is funny and cartoony its really mellow but also frightening at times. The visuals are better imo because of how real they seem it will mostly be stuff like the paint dripping off the walls or seeing someones face melt. Acid gives very drippy hallucinations shrooms is mostly morepen rapid things that scare me. But LSD is a completely different thing than shrooms its not nearly as rapid and life or death kinda feelings.




Ah yeah, that's what I've always wanted the actual visual hallucinations. On shrooms I didn't get much visual distortion at all, the walls would breath a bit but that's it.

Shrooms mainly just mindfucked me. The thoughts running through my mind were crazy and my ability to make sense of anything was non-existent.

After that trip I actually worked for about a week trying to explain it in words and I came up with this:

"I lost all sense of time and who I was and had no idea that I was "tripping". Imagine being unable to comprehend any incoming stimulus. It was like perceiving through the mind in its purest form, without any filters to make sense of anything. I forgot most of it, but remember a feeling of fear or doom, and a sense of "forever". It was pure terror. Pure chaos. Pure resistance." - my trip journal


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