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Jumpingfish
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Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request
#21991916 - 07/24/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Saw this on my hike today. Anyone know this mushroom? I think it looks similar to a Ischnoderma resinosum. But it's not the right time of year for that here.

Habitat: On a stump in the woods. A tremetes species shares the same stump.
Gills: White pores
Stem: N/A
Cap: Redish Brown with black stripes, 3-5 inches across.
Spore print color: N/A
Bruising: N/A
Location: Midwest USA.
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MidnightCity
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: Jumpingfish]
#21991968 - 07/24/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ganoderma.
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Jumpingfish
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: MidnightCity]
#21992093 - 07/24/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh, that's great! I might go back for it then. Any guess on what species of ganoderma? I never saw a variety with those kinds of stripes before.
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MidnightCity
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: Jumpingfish]
#21992156 - 07/24/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jumpingfish said: Oh, that's great! I might go back for it then. Any guess on what species of ganoderma? I never saw a variety with those kinds of stripes before.
Not 100% but may be in the Ganoderma applanatum group. I'm still wading through ID'ing the crazy varieties in my region, Perhaps MrCoudy will chime in...he's our resident Ganoderma guru.
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Mrcloudy
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: MidnightCity]
#21992498 - 07/24/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MidnightCity said:
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Jumpingfish said: Oh, that's great! I might go back for it then. Any guess on what species of ganoderma? I never saw a variety with those kinds of stripes before.
Not 100% but may be in the Ganoderma applanatum group. I'm still wading through ID'ing the crazy varieties in my region, Perhaps MrCoudy will chime in...he's our resident Ganoderma guru.

Ganoderma lobatum
Close to G.applanatum, in the same clade at least, though I suspect it may be closer to G.adspersum, just a guess based on morphology though.
Fun fact, G. lobatum is an annual species, even though its closest relatives are perennial, it does grow back year after year but usually underneath the previous years conk, instead of building upon the prior growth.
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10 different Ganoderma species from across the USA AMU MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: Mrcloudy]
#21992594 - 07/24/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mrcloudy can you try to do the one I found
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Jumpingfish
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: Mrcloudy]
#21992661 - 07/24/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jumpingfish said: Oh, that's great! I might go back for it then. Any guess on what species of ganoderma? I never saw a variety with those kinds of stripes before.
Not 100% but may be in the Ganoderma applanatum group. I'm still wading through ID'ing the crazy varieties in my region, Perhaps MrCoudy will chime in...he's our resident Ganoderma guru.

Ganoderma lobatum
Close to G.applanatum, in the same clade at least, though I suspect it may be closer to G.adspersum, just a guess based on morphology though.
Fun fact, G. lobatum is an annual species, even though its closest relatives are perennial, it does grow back year after year but usually underneath the previous years conk, instead of building upon the prior growth.
Thanks! Being in the applanatum clade means its underbelly can also be used as a mini canvas? It's interesting how it also shares the same stump with another species too. Is that a worthwhile specimen to clone and/or make into tea or tincture?
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Mrcloudy
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: nooberst]
#21993001 - 07/24/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nooberst said: Mrcloudy can you try to do the one I found

Where about did you find this one?
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10 different Ganoderma species from across the USA AMU MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: Jumpingfish]
#21993007 - 07/24/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jumpingfish said:
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Jumpingfish said: Oh, that's great! I might go back for it then. Any guess on what species of ganoderma? I never saw a variety with those kinds of stripes before.
Not 100% but may be in the Ganoderma applanatum group. I'm still wading through ID'ing the crazy varieties in my region, Perhaps MrCoudy will chime in...he's our resident Ganoderma guru.

Ganoderma lobatum
Close to G.applanatum, in the same clade at least, though I suspect it may be closer to G.adspersum, just a guess based on morphology though.
Fun fact, G. lobatum is an annual species, even though its closest relatives are perennial, it does grow back year after year but usually underneath the previous years conk, instead of building upon the prior growth.
Thanks! Being in the applanatum clade means its underbelly can also be used as a mini canvas? It's interesting how it also shares the same stump with another species too. Is that a worthwhile specimen to clone and/or make into tea or tincture?
All Ganoderma actually bruise on the underside to varying degrees, even some bright red Ganoderma can bruise as dark as G.applanatum.
You can probably clone this specimen it still looks young.
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10 different Ganoderma species from across the USA AMU MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: Mrcloudy]
#21993963 - 07/25/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nooberst said: Mrcloudy can you try to do the one I found

Where about did you find this one?
Florida on a dead tree
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Jumpingfish
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: Mrcloudy]
#21995791 - 07/25/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mrcloudy said:All Ganoderma actually bruise on the underside to varying degrees, even some bright red Ganoderma can bruise as dark as G.applanatum.
You can probably clone this specimen it still looks young.
Cool. I'll probably go back to the site tomorrow to collect it. Do you want me to send you a sample? No problem either way.
Also, I was reading this genetic classification paper http://www.mycologia.org/content/96/4/742 I don't completely understand everything. They seem to group the American G.lobatum with the Japanese G.applanatum. If I understood correctly, they are very genetically similar. Would it be reliable to follow medicinal studies for the Japanese G.applanatum to find out more about the G.lobatum?
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Mrcloudy
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: Jumpingfish]
#22003394 - 07/27/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is much confusion about the different Ganoderma species. But G.applanatum, G.adspersum, and several others are all related and probably have similar medicinal components.
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10 different Ganoderma species from across the USA AMU MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.
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Jumpingfish
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: Mrcloudy]
#22003687 - 07/27/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks again for the great info on this one. It seems promising enough to experiment with.
Even young, this specimen was much tougher to cut into than anything that I've tried to clone before. I almost sliced my finger while trying to get at the inside of the white growing edge which itself was a bit small. Here's a pic of the inside flesh for reference:
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: Jumpingfish]
#22016776 - 07/29/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The mycelium seems much thinner and hairier than any other ganoderma I've worked with before. It still needs a clean transfer. Hopefully this is actually the mycelium and not a contam:
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Mrcloudy
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: Jumpingfish]
#22016791 - 07/29/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have not cultured G.lobatum yet so I am afraid I cannot tell you if the culture is normal. But Ganoderma can be somewhat variable in its appearance in culture.
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10 different Ganoderma species from across the USA AMU MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: Jumpingfish]
#22017403 - 07/29/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jumpingfish said: The mycelium seems much thinner and hairier than any other ganoderma I've worked with before. It still needs a clean transfer. Hopefully this is actually the mycelium and not a contam:

When I tried cloning I got the same thing thin hairy like mycelium
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Re: Cool Looking Polypor: ID Request [Re: nooberst]
#22018059 - 07/30/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Was it a clone from a G.lobatum or different species?
I'll attempt to isolate it and just see what happens.
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