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nice1returns
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow.(best of a bad situation) [Re: spaceman101]
#22713391 - 12/29/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just want to know how much one plant would produce. I'm not talking about uses yet but your speculation sounds interesting ;-)
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cowsRmeat
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow.(best of a bad situation) [Re: nice1returns]
#22713864 - 12/29/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've read a few different numbers on cocaine yield from leafs. They range from "1000lbs of leaf to make 1lb cocaine" to "leaves can be as much as 1.1%" (although I'm not so sure this is what you might expect from an extraction, IDK). So, either way, you would need like a trash bag full of leaves to produce a few grams. And, if I'm not mistaken, the actives break down fairly quickly when the leaves dry, so you'd have to harvest all that in pretty much one harvest. Multiply that by how many plants you would have to have to harvest that much and things quickly turn into having to be a full blown coke farm to be able to produce any sort of weight (even for personal party use).
That's my 2c, though. The numbers I threw out there aren't from the best sources, so I'm not sure how accurate they are. But I know the yields are lower than most expect. If it were doable, you'd probably hear more about people doing it. I say if you want to grow the plant, it's mostly for novelty and MAYBE making a tea or chewing some leaves every now and then...
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spaceman101
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow.(best of a bad situation) [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22714020 - 12/29/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think you summed it up perfectly cRm
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22714360 - 12/29/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Those novo are looking nice much better then mine. I've been able to keep 2 alive however didn't stake them up and they are leaning heavily but think it will be ok as they get older and have new pups.
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nice1returns
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: modern.shaman]
#22716026 - 12/30/15 06:45 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm honestly not interested in extracting it. I may just want to chew it. I've actually extracted coca before... I yielded about 1gram of coke from half a kilo old dried leaf. So I already know about that stuff.
I'm asking what someone who grows the plant could expect in good conditions. Say 3 months growth from seed in good soil / light condtions? Would you get anything if dried the plant then? I was just asking roughly... like is this years to grow 100g of leaf matter or months or what? 
In all honesty I'd probably be using it in drinks myself but I was trying not to incriminate myself.
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ferrel_human
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: modern.shaman]
#22724529 - 01/01/16 01:19 PM (8 years, 30 days ago) |
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modern.shaman said: Those novo are looking nice much better then mine. I've been able to keep 2 alive however didn't stake them up and they are leaning heavily but think it will be ok as they get older and have new pups.
I staked them up because they were almost on the ground but the sprouting branches will help even out That lean. I hope to grow more plants later. Next week on payday I'm gonna buy a little 40 dollar shed so I can take them out and give them a better home.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22724900 - 01/01/16 04:11 PM (8 years, 30 days ago) |
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Why not just build a cheap little greenhouse instead to make them even happier?
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: spaceman101]
#22728101 - 01/02/16 01:26 PM (8 years, 29 days ago) |
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spaceman101 said: Why not just build a cheap little greenhouse instead to make them even happier?
Maybe when it warms up. They are growing so nice right now I can't pull them out of warmth and into the cold. Maybe by the end of March. With this "El niño" around I can't let the kid destroy my plants.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22728159 - 01/02/16 01:41 PM (8 years, 29 days ago) |
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I like how you worded that.
The Child. Yea I heard that little bastard was fucking with you guys right now.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: spaceman101]
#22728207 - 01/02/16 01:56 PM (8 years, 29 days ago) |
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Its been raining or drizzling non-stop for 3 days now. And on top of it cold. Damn these unpredictable south Texas winters. Just 5 days ago it was like 90f. Loopty loop winters. They suck. That's why my plants and not cacti stay inside.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human] 2
#22915563 - 02/17/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Here they are. Mild 80 degree winters. So they've been outside. The novos. The cacao is inside and finally growing. Slow though. Enjoy.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22965635 - 03/02/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Starting to look real good now.

The cacao is never going out i guess. Its just looking way to good to risk it. Ot likes it inside anyways.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22965924 - 03/02/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Those E.novo are looking sweeeeet  Thanks for sharing ^_^
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ferrel_human
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: applesmasher420]
#22966049 - 03/02/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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The leaves taste like numbies.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22966894 - 03/02/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mine are still young but have survived at least 40 degree weather just fine it seems I would probably bring them in if it had gotten much colder than that. Your plant's look great mine novos are still somewhat small and the stems are still toughening up but they're getting there
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: drakenov]
#22967288 - 03/02/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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The tiny little trunks are quite woody. So they are survivors. They ended up falling over and im tempted to cut them to where they are nice and perky but i jist cant bring myself to do it.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#23006827 - 03/14/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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does the shroomery upload strip the exif data? want to upload my e novo pics to show but windows isnt lettin me....
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ferrel_human
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: drakenov]
#23007647 - 03/14/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Man I know little of any computer stuff. I usually go to my pics and press upload and choose from there. I use my phone though. I never use a desktop.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#23008459 - 03/15/16 05:56 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I believe I've read it said in answer to similar questions that the site does strip exif.
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drakenov
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: cowsRmeat]
#23008481 - 03/15/16 06:19 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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here's my surviving 3/10 that made it past seedlings probably feed it coffee grounds this week.

Edited by drakenov (03/15/16 06:23 AM)
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