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fatal222316
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22066390 - 08/09/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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My novo seedlings did the same things wrinkled up and what not, I made sure they were out of the sun and did not water too much but when underwatered they get worse, so they are a pain in the ass if you have to work and other things, check on them daily. Once they got big enough I gave them some fertilizer for fish aquariums actually and they grew huge so stick with it.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: fatal222316]
#22066406 - 08/09/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks man. I'm sure they will come through. Those 2 healthy ones haven't skipped a beat so I'm counting on those. I usually am able to care for them most mornings and I do check them daily.
Did the ones that got wrinkled make it?
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22066436 - 08/09/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Some of them did die had about a 50 percent rate of success some of them came back I live in fl so I thought the sun was too strong for them and kept them shady with very little speckled light even now they are in the shade and doing fine. Do not use the fox farms or really strong soil just regular stuff even when they are big I dont use anything special maybe thats wrong but they seem fine now I only use the special fertilizer reef plus once a month only a small capfull.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: fatal222316]
#22066872 - 08/09/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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My soil is fertilomes ultimate potting mix. It doesn't say you start seedling but I have used it for that before. It doesn't have nutrients other than some dolomite. So I don't think that's it. I hope they grow out of it do you know how dry they can get? Maybe it's too much water. I keep them with my cacao plants and I frequently water those. And when I do I water my novos too. I may have to ease up watering.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22070091 - 08/09/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your novos look fine to me for what it is worth, ferrel.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: naum]
#22070107 - 08/09/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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naum said: Your novos look fine to me for what it is worth, ferrel.
Thanks brother. It's just percentage wise it's not very good. Before I've had 9 out of 10 make it. Beautiful plants. Well my former career I was never here so they suffered and died. Now I think I am over loving them. I'll ease up water and see what happens to the cacao plants. I think I need more humidity for them.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22117120 - 08/20/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anybody want to take a gander at to what this is?

The cacaos are really taking off.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22117135 - 08/20/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very Nice man! You gotta a lot of good stuff I'd love to have myself
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: kactus.brand.g]
#22117204 - 08/20/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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kactus.brand.g said: Very Nice man! You gotta a lot of good stuff I'd love to have myself;)
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22117959 - 08/20/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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ferrel_human said: Anybody want to take a gander at to what this is?

I don't know what it is or what causes it, but I posted an almost identical issue months ago (although slightly less severe) and was told not to worry about it. So, I didn't do anything different, and it never spread and nothing ever came of it... 
Hope it is the same for you.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22118104 - 08/20/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You think it needs a light feeding? I have a coffee jar that I made with jobes organics slow release and coffee grounds mixed. Maybe a spoonful on the top?
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22123069 - 08/21/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It looks like chlorosis. Switch to rain water / DI water only and it should go away in time. This is just good practice for E. novos. They really don't like too many cations or anions in the water.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: naum]
#22123165 - 08/21/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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All I use is saved up rainwater. Maybe I need to switch to RO water. The rainwater is in Rubbermaid containers since the beginning of spring. I don't know about plastic chemicals and such.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22123218 - 08/21/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ah, if you are using rainwater already and solely then that may not be the issue. I doubt the storage of the water in plastic bins to blame either.
Sometimes I get leaves like yellow then fall off. If it is just a few then it doesn't seem to be a problem.
What mix do you have them in?
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: naum]
#22123238 - 08/21/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's fertilomes ultimate potting mix. Basically peat, perlite, and slow release dolomite. To balance ph. I looked it up and it could be iron deficiency.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22123273 - 08/21/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I read that novo suffers iron deficiency periodically as well. Maybe you are onto something.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
#22123293 - 08/21/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll stick some nails in the pot just to be safe Wish I had liquid iron though.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22123689 - 08/21/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't think it's Fe deficiency. I don't supplement iron at all and mine are all fine not showing those signs. Also, your major veins are yellow instead of green which isn't what you'd except with Fe deficiency.
Dolomite sounds suspect. It's CaMg(CO3)2 which means that overtime it's releasing CaCO3 and Mg2+ which novo doesn't seem to like much of. My mix is usually comprised of something like some peat, coir, perlite, wormcastings, light compost. I don't add any accessible mineral content or much N.
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: naum]
#22123731 - 08/21/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So it's the m8x itself. Damn that sucks. And I thought it was good. I couldn't find coir at all this year and they love that This on the other hand had not been doing well since the get go. Only one now looks good. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
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Re: erythroxylum novogranatense and theobroma cacao grow. [Re: ferrel_human]
#22174989 - 09/01/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well I transplanted these 3 with thw ultimate potting mix and I cut it with coir that thanks to kosmokratorshaman's advice I was able to procure from petsmart. I think they look very good and I'm surprised I haven't had to stake them up.
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