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Inocuole
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: spirit_shadow]
#21978303 - 07/21/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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They kinda remind me of edible mushrooms moreso than any other cube I've seen.
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spirit_shadow
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
#21978306 - 07/21/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Idk man his avatar pic looks pretty scarry lol
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TheEaglesGift
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: spirit_shadow]
#21978517 - 07/22/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've also had very little rhizo growth with my AA+ cultures, whereas the 4 different PE cultures I'd played with were all quite rhizomorphic.
God, I love this fucking hobby.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#21990309 - 07/24/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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if i read right Pe is just a cross of two cube strains which is unique, but what would make it more potent than any other standard cube other than its appearance difference?? I mean what in the cross would increase psilocybin or psiclocin??
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Inocuole
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: bakenast]
#21990328 - 07/24/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If we knew we'd all be doing it. Whatever PE is, it's more complicated than that.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
#21990343 - 07/24/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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No one knows exactly where it came from.
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TheEaglesGift
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: bakenast]
#21990355 - 07/24/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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bakenast said: if i read right Pe is just a cross of two cube strains which is unique, but what would make it more potent than any other standard cube other than its appearance difference?? I mean what in the cross would increase psilocybin or psiclocin??
Nobody knows where PE came from... but it's likely not a cross as far as anyone knows. Classic PE has a bit of a mysterious history, whereas Albino Penis Envy(APE) and Penis Envy Uncut are crosses between Classic PE and PF Albino.
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Inocuole
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#21990360 - 07/24/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Uncut originates from PF albino too?
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: MudaFuka]
#21990362 - 07/24/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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PE is meant to be amazonian in origin according to John Allen. Dunno if there was a cross or anything along the way.
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Actually the first penis envy were from a print from McKenna and/or Pollock. I am really not sure who grew them first. But most today come from the McKenna prints from the late 1970s early to mid 1980s. Have you seen the fantastic cult job workman did on the PE Albinos? Those are the most magnificent shrooms yet. mjshroomer
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mjshroomer said: Yes Anno you are correct.. They are actually culture tubes of the spores for the penis envy Amazonian strainof the McKenna Collection.
I will have a few hundred available within a week to ten days from Amsterdam.
Theya re germ free.
mj, Those who want them please pm me and I am making a lit of interested parties. You get two tubes for the price of one.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: blackout]
#21990380 - 07/24/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I read somewhere that McKenna denied any involvement in the discovery of PE.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
#21990389 - 07/24/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Uncut originates from PF albino too?
Yes, penis envy uncut was stumbled upon by workman while working on the pf albino x penis envy cross to make an albino strain(ape).
He like the way peu looked, so he stabilized it and released it.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: MudaFuka]
#21990407 - 07/24/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: I read somewhere that McKenna denied any involvement in the discovery of PE.
That rings a bell. But I think it was Denis McKenna saying it, and not sure if he was saying he was 100% sure that neither he or his brother had any involvement.
I know MJ talked a load of bullshit about penis envy to a Vice magazine journalist. But I don't think the bits I quoted were BS.
-Found the quote
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i dont know if your joking but he died years ago. i did however contact his brother dennis mckenna who said that he had never heard of a penis envy mushroom and that terrence never sold spore prints for it, he did say that terrence sold prints for an "AMZ" strain, which im assuming stands for amazon.
does anyone know anything about the 1981 DEA raid of stephen pollocks green house? or does anyone have any info from pollock concerning his work with the amazonian mushroom?
this is turning out to be a good mystery.
and another mj quote from 2008, the previous ones were earlier.
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From the original strain developed by Steven Pollock on Terence McKenna's Amazonian Cubes, I give you three images of Penis Envy Psilocybe cubensis from the Colombian Amazon, grown in spawn of rye berry seed and mycelia streaked on PDA, and then mixed into compost made of horse dung, hickory nut shells, and pasteurized wheat straw.
mjshroomer
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: blackout]
#21990429 - 07/24/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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There is a great journalism piece of Pollock in my journey: Blood Spore: Of Murder and Mushrooms
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#21990474 - 07/24/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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TheEaglesGift said: There is a great journalism piece of Pollock in my journey: Blood Spore: Of Murder and Mushrooms
That is written by Hamilton Morris, he is the vice magazine journo who is the guy MJ told a load of bullshit to, I do not know if that article contains any of MJs bullshit fed to him. He had another article just on PE.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: blackout]
#21990493 - 07/24/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wasn't aware the same person who wrote the Vice article wrote this, makes me suddenly not trust any of the information in it.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#21990691 - 07/24/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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oh so there isint anywhere known the the pe strain grows naturally, so nobody knows if its a cross or regular strain is this correct
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#21990706 - 07/24/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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TheEaglesGift said: I wasn't aware the same person who wrote the Vice article wrote this, makes me suddenly not trust any of the information in it. 
Glad I'm not the only one that realizes they discredit themselves.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: GreenRabbit]
#21990756 - 07/24/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, Vice is a shitty company. I didn't realize that either. I had bookmarked that article, but I don't think I will be reading it now that I know that.
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Inocuole
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: bakenast]
#21990776 - 07/24/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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bakenast said: oh so there isint anywhere known the the pe strain grows naturally, so nobody knows if its a cross or regular strain is this correct
Since there would be no difference between a "cross" and a "regular strain", no, I doubt anyone knows. It is what it is.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
#21991014 - 07/24/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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PE doesn't grow naturally.. it would have a very hard time doing so considering it doesn't actually sporulate correctly.
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