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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: xFrockx]
    #22208751 - 09/08/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's what you and the others are saying. Making up a new word and bullying everyone into using it and not using the old one in your mind changes reality and makes everything rainbows and lollypops.

It doesn't work


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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: xFrockx]
    #22209507 - 09/08/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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This article is sortof the inverse of the notion I have of P.C. which is that no matter how sensitive a term "sounds" originally, insensitive viewpoints will eventually change the meaning of the term to an insensitive one.

This is why every so many years we have to come up with another word for people with learning disabilities. Also naming changes for various other kinds of people (dark-skinned people, immigrants of various source...). Or violent actions we permit due to legality (execution, for example). Over time, the new words become polluted with the meanings that the old ones did, because only the word changed, not the attitudes. At least, so far.

Really, some of these hateful ideas formed out of ignorance deserve to be ignored when P.C. changes are made. Its a shame its not as easy to change someone's opinion without changing their experiences.




An "undocumented worker" is still a illegal alien, the words can't change the reality of the situation, PC tries to change peoples perceptions, awake individuals don't fall for it.


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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: qman]
    #22211198 - 09/09/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>An "undocumented worker" is still a illegal alien, the words can't change the reality of the situation, PC tries to change peoples perceptions, awake individuals don't fall for it.

Exactly. Orwell told us about this decades ago, called it "newspeak" war is peace and so on. The department of truth is the propaganda arm that never tells the truth, today played by the msm. We have our daily 2 minutes of hate, aimed at whatever country we want to invade or are presently invading and murdering innocent people. He laid it all out but the sheep today are too blind to see. 1984 is a book well worth reading.


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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22211858 - 09/09/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I tend to replace pc with "Treating people like humanbeings" nowadays.


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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22212203 - 09/09/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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That's what you and the others are saying. Making up a new word and bullying everyone into using it and not using the old one in your mind changes reality and makes everything rainbows and lollypops.

It doesn't work




I'd guess there are two responses.

One would be to support a dialogue that better represents those people who are getting oppressed by "bullies".

How about standing by a principle and the nature of self responsibility? People are going to say what they are going to say. That is the only way of acceptance.

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Begin the morning by saying to thyself, I shall meet with the busy-body, the ungrateful, arrogant, deceitful, envious, unsocial. All these things happen to them by reason of their ignorance of what is good and evil. But I who have seen the nature of the good that it is beautiful, and of the bad that it is ugly, and the nature of him who does wrong, that it is akin to me, not only of the same blood or seed, but that it participates in the same intelligence and the same portion of the divinity, I can neither be injured by any of them, for no one can fix on me what is ugly, nor can I be angry with my kinsman, nor hate him, For we are made for co-operation, like feet, like hands, like eyelids, like the rows of the upper and lower teeth. To act against one another then is contrary to nature; and it is acting against one another to be vexed and to turn away.

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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: qman]
    #22229422 - 09/12/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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xFrockx said:
This article is sortof the inverse of the notion I have of P.C. which is that no matter how sensitive a term "sounds" originally, insensitive viewpoints will eventually change the meaning of the term to an insensitive one.

This is why every so many years we have to come up with another word for people with learning disabilities. Also naming changes for various other kinds of people (dark-skinned people, immigrants of various source...). Or violent actions we permit due to legality (execution, for example). Over time, the new words become polluted with the meanings that the old ones did, because only the word changed, not the attitudes. At least, so far.

Really, some of these hateful ideas formed out of ignorance deserve to be ignored when P.C. changes are made. Its a shame its not as easy to change someone's opinion without changing their experiences.




An "undocumented worker" is still a illegal alien, the words can't change the reality of the situation, PC tries to change peoples perceptions, awake individuals don't fall for it.




Illegal alien used to be a PC word too. You are only proving my point.


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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: xFrockx]
    #22230546 - 09/13/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The left thinks if you make up a new word for something it changes reality.


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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22232396 - 09/13/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No one really thinks that, get real. People don't like using words that have been tainted by a history of hateful use. Eventually, due to motherfucking idiot people, no matter what word gets subbed in, people use it in a derogatory way. So anyone who doesn't want to sound like an asshole is forced to alter their language. There's nothing sinister or ridiculous about it.

What is ridiculous is when people try to force their language on others. To me, if someone wants to make up new words, thats fine by me. I do it too. But I am perfectly fine with people who use the old ones, so long as they aren't trying to use them as insults.


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