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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: Asante]
#21996388 - 07/25/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree that PC is mostly an illusion.
It's the type of tactic that maybe at one time was embraced by some liberal academics, but now political correctness is largely defined and perpetuated by the people in opposition to it. I can't remember the last time I heard someone advocate for politically correct language as something that must be enforced, but there seems to be no end to the number of people who feel their ideas are being oppressed by the idea that social conscience and language should be intertwined.
Nobody I can think of ever said anyone has to be politically correct, but the fact is a person's lack of sensitivity in the language they use can be used against them. People don't like to be portrayed as insensitive, or some do I guess so they embrace the ehtos of political incorrectness to whatever end.
To me there are plenty of political tactics more dangerous than attempting to inject standards of sensitivity into language, such as lies being passed off as the truth, and espousing beliefs that you don't intend to follow through on to garner votes or financial support. If we can't freely call out people who do things like that, there can be no democracy.
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Re: The truth about [Re: Asante] 1
#21996450 - 07/25/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's just another way of putting things in boxes and putting the boxes where they can't be reached. Just like the words. To make a thing taboo is to induce ignorance. Drugs God Spiritually "Bad words" 
I don't see how political correctness actually benefits the people who we're being political correct for. It just seems like a way to 1.get your voice heard even if you have nothing to say 2.feel better than other people
Like the grammar Nazi. They often know what you mean but because they been told their whole life it's this way and not that way They see it as a chance to tell you that you're wrong just like they've been told that they were wrong.
Edit: Haha I actually read the article and see a completely different point from what I thought this thread is about. touche Asante Edit2: Basically I do agree with the article on some points but I'm not sure if the people who are "politically incorrect" actually care I was raised in a very racist community and when we'd go to big cities they generally wouldn't use racist terms but as soon as we got home they started saying like horrible offense stuff about other human beings just because their skin color. I have no problem with race, gender, sexuality or anything. I think you should treat everything like it was I within reason of course. I don't eat meat unless I have to but if I had to I would do it as respectfully as I could. Edit:3 I have no problem with racist people or meat eaters either because I know I could easily be them and they could easily be me. They're just suffering from ignorance like I was but I managed to escape the ignorance because fortunately I grew up with the internet and psychedelics .
This isn't to say I think eating meat is "bad" either. Plants actually seem pretty intelligent too and have been shown to need "sleep" or they die. I just think most of the meat I'll buy is treated just like that, meat not a living being and I don't want to be a apart of that any more. Although plants definitely aren't treated like living beings... fuck
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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: Eggtimer]
#21996481 - 07/25/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eggtimer said: It's just another way of putting things in boxes and putting the boxes where they can't be reached. Just like the words. To make a thing taboo is to induce ignorance. Drugs God Spiritually "Bad words" 
I don't see how political correctness actually benefits the people who we're being political correct for. It just seems like a way to 1.get your voice heard even if you have nothing to say 2.feel better than other people
Like the grammar Nazi. They often know what you mean but because they been told their whole life it's this way and not that way They see it as a chance to tell you that you're wrong just like they've been told that they were wrong.
Yes, the grammar Nazi. Bane of message boards. "you know what I mean", I do know what you mean. You just look like a retard with ur's, i's and cuz.
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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: Asante]
#21996509 - 07/25/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Political correctness is just shallow imo. People use it when, what they really want to say may be construed as inappropriate. I agree, that it is also used as a way to undermine a topic and avoid it.
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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: zappaisgod]
#21996540 - 07/25/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Politically correct refers more to politically incorrect in that it is a vilification of that which any one of a number of groups might deem offensive. Ya know what? I don't care if Negroes don't like me using the word and I don't care if homos don't like me using the word. They sure as fuck aint gay and very few Negroes are African American and a lot of African Americans aren't Negroes.
Way to challenge the crowd while using your vast array of knowledge and extensive vocabulary, to educate everyone on a plethora of terminology that is otherwise utterly useless
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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: imachavel] 1
#21996562 - 07/25/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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For the extreme leftists, pc doesn't exist. Its been drummed into them so completely they think its natural and normal. They think people who don't jump through all the same hoops are the weird ones.
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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: Stonehenge]
#21996596 - 07/25/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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po·lit·i·cal·ly cor·rect pəˌlidək(ə)lē kəˈrekt/ adjective exhibiting (or failing to exhibit) political correctness. "it is not politically correct to laugh at speech impediments" synonyms: unoffensive, nondiscriminatory, unbiased, neutral, appropriate, nonpartisan; informalPC "the true meaning may be clouded by his politically correct language"
Please explain how you can justify the argument you just made that "the far left cannot understand what politically correct is."
Are you creating a biased argument that appeals to extreme fallacies based on your perception that a person on the right side will argue "PC" so therefore a liberal leftist asshole doesn't understand the definition to begin with by some chance?
Care to elaborate?
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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: imachavel]
#21996641 - 07/25/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What I said and what I meant was that they don't see pc as anything but normal. Its like if someone said do you use logic? You would say yes of course. They think its natural to avoid certain words, to attack those who use certain words, as well as actions like having a certain flag. People who are not left wingers see it as a false narrative. Just for example, blacks are allowed to say things whites aren't but the pc crowd will tell you they don't have a speck of racism in them. Yet that whole thing is racist. They can't see it because its been fed to them so long they accept it as truth.
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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: Asante]
#21996784 - 07/25/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is all anyone needs to know about being PC. The question is which part of the song connects with you the most? 
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Re: The truth about "Political Correctness" is that it does not actually exist. [Re: Love_spirit]
#21996834 - 07/25/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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