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Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend
#21990925 - 07/24/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Because patriarchy, why else?
This is why, when one is lectured on their 'sense of entitlement', no one can take these hos seriously.
http://www.thesocialmemo.org/2015/07/feminist-author-demands-that-men-pay.html
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Jess Zimmerman, who writes for the Guardian, has a brilliant idea: why don't people pay her for being their friend? In an article titled, "“Where’s My Cut?”: On Unpaid Emotional Labor," Zimmerman makes the case that she deserves cold hard cash for being there for people.
Zimmerman begins her article by summarizing a recent case of a psychic swindling a man out of hundreds of thousands of dollars by telling him she could make a woman fall in love with him. The psychic wasn't completely at fault, Zimmerman writes, because men treat women like property and the hopelessly in love man should have realized that. And women never chase after men who aren't interested, she implies.
Eventually, Zimmerman writes that she helps men with their problems sometimes. "Why not get a Rolex out of the deal?" she then asks.
"People are disturbed by the very notion that someone would charge, or pay, for friendly support," she writes. "It’s supposed to come free. Why?"
Zimmerman then starts to talk about #GiveYourMoneytoWomen, which demanded that men give money to women for free. "Men like to act as if commanding women’s attention is their birthright, their natural due, and they are rarely contradicted," she writes, as if men don't ask other men questions. "It’s a radical act to refuse them that attention. It’s even more radical to propose that if they want it so fucking much, they can buy it."
The concept of "emotional labor" is the problem, according to Zimmerman. "We are told frequently that women are more intuitive, more empathetic, more innately willing and able to offer succor and advice," she explains. "How convenient that this cultural construct gives men an excuse to be emotionally lazy. How convenient that it casts feelings-based work as “an internal need, an aspiration, supposedly coming from the depths of our female character.”"
House work, sex work, and being a friend is all very similar, Zimmerman argues, saying, "Housework is not work. Sex work is not work. Emotional work is not work. Why? Because they don’t take effort? No, because women are supposed to provide them uncompensated, out of the goodness of our hearts."
And why do women not charge men for being their friend? The Patriarchy; Zimmerman writes, "We let this happen because patriarchy is so good at training women as its proxies; we’ve internalized the idea that our effort is men’s birthright.
"Enough of that. We don’t necessarily need to insist that men just give us their money – though you should, if that works for you, and write down what they say because I bet it’ll be funny. But we absolutely get to recognize that the constant labor of placating men and navigating patriarchal expectations is exhausting because it’s work."
Zimmerman concludes, "I don’t expect to get $700,000, now that I’m trying to remember that emotional labor has value. I don’t expect to get anything, really. But at least now I know that when I get nothing, I’m being cheated. That’s a start."
Do note that she thinks it's only men that should pay her for "being there". She mentions nothing about other women who she may be friends with or provide 'emotional support' to.
TL;DR: It's perfectly acceptable for women to exploit men, because patriarchy. You want to be my friend? Pay up bitch.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Shroomism]
#21990937 - 07/24/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Funny how she implies in her argument that it's strange not all women are prostitutes.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: koraks]
#21990955 - 07/24/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Empowerment!!! You go girl!
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Shroomism]
#21990988 - 07/24/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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And to think, a semi respectable news outlet actually trusts her to uphold their standard of journalistic integrity. She is nothing short of a crazy person.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Webster10]
#21991000 - 07/24/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks like she wants to be Skrillex
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Shroomism] 1
#21991002 - 07/24/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What is The Guardian, and why doesn't it have standards?
I'd criticize what she wrote, but the writing is so juvenile that it would feel like grading papers in those English classes they force freshman communication arts majors to take. She can't even work out her own emotions, so she's probably just an emotional burden on the people around her. Maybe she should pay them for the damages.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Shroomism] 1
#21991021 - 07/24/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh God. This makes me doubt that she has any friends she could charge even if she wanted to.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Shroomism] 2
#21991024 - 07/24/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seems like every time I read something a feminist wrote or said, I get the sudden urge to go throughout my entire house flipping every table we own. This level of stupidity is just infuriating and I don't even know why. Probably has something to do with me being a man though.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#21991041 - 07/24/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mr.GuessWork said: What is The Guardian, and why doesn't it have standards?
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The Guardian is a self-described centre-left British national daily newspaper. Founded in 1821 as a local paper replacing the radical Manchester Observer, it was known as The Manchester Guardian until 1959.
It has grown into a national paper, and forms part of a media group with international and online offshoots. Its sister papers include The Observer (a British Sunday paper) and The Guardian Weekly (an international roundup of articles from various papers). In addition to its UK online edition theguardian.com, the paper has two international web sites, Guardian Australia and Guardian US. The Guardian is influential in the design and publishing arena, sponsoring many awards in these areas. Other media projects include GuardianFilm. The Guardian was edited by Alan Rusbridger from 1995 to 2015, when Katharine Viner succeeded him.[2][3]
In August 2013 The Guardian in paper form had an average daily circulation of 189,000 copies, behind The Daily Telegraph and The Times, and ahead of The Independent.[4] The newspaper's online edition was the third most widely read in the world as of June 2012.[5] Its combined print and online editions reach nearly 9 million readers.[6]
In the 2015 UK general election, The Guardian endorsed the Labour Party.[7] In the previous general election it supported the Liberal Democrats.[8]
Notable scoops include the newspaper's breaking of the News International phone hacking scandal in 2011, particularly with the revelation of the hacking of murdered teenager Milly Dowler's phone.[9] The investigation brought about the closure of one of the highest circulation newspapers in the world, the News of the World.[10] The newspaper also broke news of the secret collection of Verizon telephone records held by Barack Obama's administration in June 2013,[11] and subsequently revealed the existence of the PRISM surveillance program after it was leaked to the paper by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden.[12] The Guardian was named newspaper of the year at the 2014 British Press Awards, for its reporting on government surveillance.[13]
A highly popular, halfway? respectable paper, or used to be anyway.
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I'd criticize what she wrote, but the writing is so juvenile that it would feel like grading papers in those English classes they force freshman communication arts majors to take. She can't even work out her own emotions, so she's probably just an emotional burden on the people around her. Maybe she should pay them for the damages.
Welcome to modern Feminism 101, where hypocrisy and double standards are the name of the game.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Shroomism]
#21991083 - 07/24/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomism said:
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I'd criticize what she wrote, but the writing is so juvenile that it would feel like grading papers in those English classes they force freshman communication arts majors to take. She can't even work out her own emotions, so she's probably just an emotional burden on the people around her. Maybe she should pay them for the damages.
Welcome to modern Feminism 101
Oh ya, I forgot the name of that class. Whenever I heard about the discussions in that class' analog at my college, it just sounding like a bunch of selfish bitching that lacked any real substance or critical thought. It must be the nonalcoholic version of a communication arts class. Useless and boring.
The Guardian must be desperate for new writers or something. Maybe all the actual journalists quit. Maybe this chick is just a one-timer or something.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#21991118 - 07/24/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Unfortunately not. She's been writing terrible articles for the Guardian for at least a year, if not longer. She also wrote for Time.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Shroomism] 1
#21991148 - 07/24/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hope that she takes this to the furthest extreme she can. And I hope everyone she knows does so too.
That way I can laugh at them when they're friendless and alone.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Shroomism]
#21991151 - 07/24/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Unfortunately not. She's been writing terrible articles for the Guardian for at least a year, if not longer. She also wrote for Time.
WOW. Journalists must be pissed that they're being abandoned and replaced by these people.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: nooneman]
#21991183 - 07/24/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nooneman said: I hope that she takes this to the furthest extreme she can. And I hope everyone she knows does so too.
That way I can laugh at them when they're friendless and alone.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Shroomism]
#21991198 - 07/24/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have enough friends. I don' need to pay some moron to be my friend. Hell, I have enough morons
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: zappaisgod]
#21991520 - 07/24/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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She sounds like a complete and utter sociopath. I wonder whose dick the writer is sucking in order to keep her job.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Shroomism]
#21991648 - 07/24/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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She is one of the good ones. At least she openly broadcasts her twisted logic. Had a friend that didn't find out until he got married. Boom! Half of everything he worked for and owned jacked by the divorce. He was going through her stuff and actually found she had books specifically about manipulating men for profit in this fashion. She gave him no clue that she prescribed to these beliefs. She appeared only as what she thought he wanted.
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Love_spirit]
#21991759 - 07/24/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't get why people like this get their opinions published on major websites and social media. You wouldn't be reading about it if people just listened her idea and thought 'thats dumb' and then went about their day. Instead it gets blown way out of proportion so that everybody has to state their opinion about how its so outrageous and stupid.
Its her opposition that are giving her credibility and a means of spouting more crap. Why give her the attention she so desperately craves? I see this kind of shit happening time and time again on social media...
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: olson]
#21991783 - 07/24/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Clickbait
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Re: Feminist author demands that men pay her for being their friend [Re: Shroomism]
#21992131 - 07/24/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Therapists get paid to basically just listen and be there. If people feel like her pretending to be a friend is worth money, then fine. I see no problem with it. I do object to her bullshit feminazi propaganda but being a paid companion is not so outlandish. Its worth min wage at least if the person wants it.
People who are shut in might welcome a visitor, be willing to pay if they have the money. If someone is such a dork they have no friends or are too shy to go out, this might work. People might hire a few so that their party does not look deserted in case enough real people did not rsvp. Trump paid people to attend his announcement and cheer.
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