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Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc?
    #21990552 - 07/24/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well I'm a pretty hefty cigarette and weed smoker. I've read a few rather old threads on here that say all that smoke can carry contams into your chamber. Has this ever been proven true? Should I worry about smoking in the same room as my SGFC? I could always smoke outside, but I'd rather not if there's nothing to worry about.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #21990561 - 07/24/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Inocuole]
    #21990581 - 07/24/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've tried that, didn't work for me. I do plan to quit, but I'm never going to quit smoking weed. So my question still stands: Does smoke harbor a shit load of contaminates that will compromise my fruiting chamber? I mean I just don't see how it could have any more contaminates then regular air, since that's where it would be picking up said contaminates anyways. I read this in very old threads so I want to see what people think of that now a days.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #21990592 - 07/24/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If your chain smoking cigarettes with no ventilation in the same room as your grow, it probably isn't the best for them. Tobacco smoke is thick and full of shit, weed smoke still has tar but not as much compared to tobacco


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #21990603 - 07/24/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I guess I don't understand. Do you smoke in the same room as your fruiting chamber? Are you hot boxing it like a cat?

If you have healthy tubs/cakes then they should be able to fend for themselves, but why abuse them with that garbage?

Just smoke outside or in a different part of your house.
I smoke Cannabis quite often, but if you smoke in my lab or grow area I would slap it out of your mouth.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: rickjamez20]
    #21990604 - 07/24/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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If your chain smoking cigarettes with no ventilation in the same room as your grow, it probably isn't the best for them. Tobacco smoke is thick and full of shit, weed smoke still has tar but not as much compared to tobacco




:thumbup: I'll smoke my ciggies outdoors. I figured all the chems in cig smoke would definitely not be good for myc, but just wanted to be sure.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21990623 - 07/24/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I guess I don't understand. Do you smoke in the same room as your fruiting chamber? Are you hot boxing it like a cat?





:lol: Yea I typically hot box the room I've set up my SGFC in (not intentionally there is just no good ventilation in here). But now that I have my first cake in there, and number 2 on the way I wanted to double check about the smoke theories I read. Thanks for clearing this up for me guys.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #21990632 - 07/24/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:shrug: it's not like mycelium develops cancer.. also literally anything will bring contaminations into your grow room. Even a sneeze or eating a twinkie. Going for a walk outside and walking into the room introduces contaminations. The 1 place that needs you to be clean and sterile is your lab/still air box. Everything else I just treat it like any other part of the house.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #21990655 - 07/24/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If this means anything to you, I quit smoking 3 years ago by switching to an e cig. I lowered the nicotine level each month until I became annoyed with charging the damn thing and cigarettes tasted too disgusting to switch back.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21990671 - 07/24/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:shrug: it's not like mycelium develops cancer.. also literally anything will bring contaminations into your grow room. Even a sneeze or eating a twinkie. Going for a walk outside and walking into the room introduces contaminations. The 1 place that needs you to be clean and sterile is your lab/still air box. Everything else I just treat it like any other part of the house.




So if I smoke in the same room as my fruiting chamber with poor ventilation, there is nothing to worry about? I suspected all the pesticides and shit they put in tobacco would be bad for it or something. Either way I think I'll probably keep smoking weed in here and just begin to smoke cigarettes outdoors. I would like to test this though :stoned:


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #21990688 - 07/24/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It might increase co2 levels, not sure by how much.. also not sure about pesticides. Haha yeah you should do some tests. Done with a bunch of different controls. ie. Clones, different types of chambers, different substrates, and so on.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: insanemike]
    #21990704 - 07/24/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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If this means anything to you, I quit smoking 3 years ago by switching to an e cig. I lowered the nicotine level each month until I became annoyed with charging the damn thing and cigarettes tasted too disgusting to switch back.




I plan to quit smoking cigarettes by switching to snus. I think if I can avoid smoking cigarettes for a week with snus that I can probably just get off of snus without a problem by lowering my amount of pouches I use each day. The reason I can't quit cold turkey is because weed makes me crave nicotine. I suppose it's the weed high mixed with the mellow tobacco buzz that brings me to want a cig so bad the second I get high.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21990712 - 07/24/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It might increase co2 levels, not sure by how much.. also not sure about pesticides. Haha yeah you should do some tests. Done with a bunch of different controls. ie. Clones, different types of chambers, different substrates, and so on.




I am going to contemplate this. I feel like it would be a worth while experiment. I just got to decide how exactly I would set this up.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #21990724 - 07/24/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I hear ya. I stopped doing after tokes too much because I knew it was just about to start hooking me. All you need is some dabs LOL.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21990771 - 07/24/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've read a few rather old threads on here that say all that smoke can carry contams into your chamber.



Smoke particles are far smaller than say a mold spore. I doubt the smoke itself will hurt anything but it does tend to increase the amount of dust in a room over time.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: rickjamez20]
    #21990898 - 07/24/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Tobacco smoke is thick and full of shit, weed smoke still has tar but not as much compared to tobacco




wrong, weed has way more tar than cigarettes, at least the shit I've seen does anyway, (maybe yours don't,) never had a cigarette cover my fingers with tar after a couple hits, shits running out the end...

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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #21990913 - 07/24/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah weed has 4x more tar lol. There's lots of articles showing that the cannibinoids will stop tumor growth tho. So it's kinda a weird phenomenon. Unlike tobacco, weed smokers seem to get a larger lung capacity from it (from taking big hits and holding it), and if anything your throat just gets irritated from it at most.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21991053 - 07/24/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Start vaping :smile:


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: swatsqad]
    #21991114 - 07/24/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

for what it's worth out of the 20+ successful smoking quitters I know the one thing EVERY single one of them had in common was cold turkey.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21991233 - 07/24/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Since this became a how to quit smoking thread...

http://web-profile.com.ua/wp-content/uploads/allen-carrs-easy-way-to-stop-smoking.pdf

Great book. Has help me and many others realize how simple and easy it is to quit smoking forever.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: wolf fish]
    #21991967 - 07/24/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

its not an how to quit thread, its about mushroom cultivation
let him smoke if he want, thats not the topic...

smoke particles are bigger than mold spores, so probably mold spores can stick to the smoke, go thru the polyfil or shotgun holes, go on your substrate and contaminate... if your culture is weak... lol

i did smoked in my grow area and i dont think it caused problem for fruiting, but if you try to do sterile work in the area you smoke, that would not be good at all


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: cArcace-x]
    #21991978 - 07/24/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

We just had someone else say smoke particles were smaller than mold spores.  So, which is it? 

Also this is totally a how to quit thread.  Don't hijack.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Inocuole]
    #21992019 - 07/24/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i was totally wrong
from 13shrooms journal

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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: cArcace-x]
    #21992067 - 07/24/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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smoke Cannabis quite often, but if you smoke in my lab or grow area I would slap it out of your mouth.




Me too :lol:

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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: wolf fish]
    #21998480 - 07/26/15 05:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Edit: Sorry, I realise it's kinda off topic, but I had to say something when I saw this mentioned, aha.

I read Allen Carr's book throughout the night of the 5-6th of July. I haven't smoked tobacco since I finished the book. If you really want to quit, read it.
I don't want to sound like I'm trying to preach or anything but it really has been very surprisingly easy.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: ExperimentalCat]
    #21998546 - 07/26/15 06:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The patch, excercise, and a shit load of mushrooms helped me quit.

For weed you can vape.


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Kizzle]
    #21998604 - 07/26/15 07:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've read a few rather old threads on here that say all that smoke can carry contams into your chamber.



Smoke particles are far smaller than say a mold spore. I doubt the smoke itself will hurt anything but it does tend to increase the amount of dust in a room over time.




^^THIS

its just another vehicle for mold spores to hitch a ride on.  even when i had a small studio, i'd go outside or hang out the window.
even if u don't grow, there are some hot chicks who just won't budge when they get back to ur place and it smells like an ashtray :P


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #21999105 - 07/26/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

my monos reside in my bedroom where my girlfriend plays ipad and smokes both all day like a boss and i haven't noticed any difference between this and my old apartment where we couldn't smoke anything in the house and i normally don't have top poly in to filter the incoming air at all but then again maybe i've just developed smoke resistant cultures or somethin lol


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Re: Cigarette smoke negatively effecting your myc? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21999445 - 07/26/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:shrug: it's not like mycelium develops cancer..




Interesting idea, you think UV light could be used to speed up rates of mutations?:crazy2:


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