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Golden Teacher Success and Questions
    #21988873 - 07/24/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Firstly a massive thanks to all those that helped in my thread "golden teachers not pinning" Not only have i had a bit of success but I've just experienced hands down the most intense trip of my life. My partner had a massive awakening for the first time and an incredible female journey. I can not believe what we have come to know and understand from one 4g session.

I am very confused about how they have grown though! Ive put some pictures up to show you but basically only 1 cake fully flourished the others have been growing just 2 big ones. Interestingly from the full harvest of the cake i got 45g wet but just one shroom on the other cake was 30g...

Is this unusual? Should i change anything up?

Also one of the cakes grew 2 shrooms that looks like a completely different strain to the rest, its a lot darker and fuller. (PICTURE 3)

Do they all just grow differently or is it something im doing?

and finally ive attached a picture of the cake with lots growing after picking, am i right to say all thats left on there are aborts and wont get bigger? (PICTURE 4 & 5)











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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: Medicated-420]
    #21988904 - 07/24/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

did you start with a ms syringe? if not the reason why you arent getting uniform flushes is because a multi spore inoculation has many genes in which some mycelium pins and fruits better than others. to achieve a more inform grow you will need to isolate a good fruiting mycelium and then use that to continue your grow.


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: inked4life]
    #21988913 - 07/24/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I bought Golden Teacher prints. Then used 1 print for a 12ml syringe and put 2cc in every jar. Thats why I thought they would grow similarly?


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: Medicated-420]
    #21988916 - 07/24/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Genetics. Every time you use a syringe you have a ton of genetics in tehre.

Also next run up your FAE. That will help with pinning. You see those little white bulbs on the bottom? That's mycelium crawling up the base and shows a lack of fresh air exchange. How often do you mist/fan?

Show me your full SGFC.

4G wet or 4g dry?

And you have different genetics in each individual piece of the spore print so they're all different.

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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: inked4life]
    #21988919 - 07/24/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You didn't do anything wrong except you forgot to lay the cakes on foil so they aren't just sitting on perlite.
Also looks like that's not a proper hole pattern for a sgfc.

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did you start with a ms syringe? if not the reason why you arent getting uniform flushes is because a multi spore inoculation has many genes in which some mycelium pins and fruits better than others. to achieve a more inform grow you will need to isolate a good fruiting mycelium and then use that to continue your grow.




He's doing cakes. Of course it was MS.


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: Buck513]
    #21988984 - 07/24/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Genetics. Every time you use a syringe you have a ton of genetics in tehre.

Also next run up your FAE. That will help with pinning. You see those little white bulbs on the bottom? That's mycelium crawling up the base and shows a lack of fresh air exchange. How often do you mist/fan?

Show me your full SGFC.

4G wet or 4g dry?

And you have different genetics in each individual piece of the spore print so they're all different.

:smile:




That amazes me..i didnt realise they had different genetics, thats next to research.
Thats great, i can put some more holes in for fae then. I mist/fan 5-7 times a day depending on how they look and the perlite feels. Ill see if i can find an older pic of the sgfc now if not ill upload an up to date one in the morning.

My apologies, that should have been 40g wet not 4g. I cant put into words how life changing it was and ive tripped plenty before! I think theyve felt the love ive been pouring into them :smile:


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You didn't do anything wrong except you forgot to lay the cakes on foil so they aren't just sitting on perlite.
Also looks like that's not a proper hole pattern for a sgfc.




Ok foil is simple enough, ive noticed the shrooms near the bottom with perlite in them so that will help that.
As for hole pattern i just drilled holes 2 inches apart on 6 sides, should they be in specific places?


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: Buck513]
    #21988986 - 07/24/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

tagyo is right , its a marathon race with thousands of runners. until you lessen the competitors, you will always have a different finisher. isolate a great runner and he will always win


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: taGyo]
    #21988989 - 07/24/15 09:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)





These were taken just after birthing but i cant get a new picture until tomorrow


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: Medicated-420]
    #21988994 - 07/24/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They have to be in a grid pattern. Not just placed randomly every 2 inches.

Grid pattern.


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: inked4life]
    #21988999 - 07/24/15 09:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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tagyo is right , its a marathon race with thousands of runners. until you lessen the competitors, you will always have a different finisher. isolate a great runner and he will always win




Nice way to put it..
By isolating my runner you mean take some spore prints from good shrooms from a good cake?


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: Medicated-420]
    #21989004 - 07/24/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks buck I hadnt come across that before. Im considering trying a mini monotub for my next grow..do you recommend it over cakes?


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: Medicated-420]
    #21989005 - 07/24/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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inked4life said:
tagyo is right , its a marathon race with thousands of runners. until you lessen the competitors, you will always have a different finisher. isolate a great runner and he will always win




Nice way to put it..
By isolating my runner you mean take some spore prints from good shrooms from a good cake?



No. That's not a clone, youre just taking a spore print. Spore prints can have billions of spores on them. More spores = larger genetic pool.

To take a clone you need agar. Just drop a fat, fast growing pin from a cluster and put it on agar. But you're getting ahead of yourself. Dont worry about clones until you start growing bulk in monotubs


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: Medicated-420]
    #21989014 - 07/24/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Thanks buck I hadnt come across that before. Im considering trying a mini monotub for my next grow..do you recommend it over cakes?



It all depends what you're wanting out of this hobby.

I personally have never grown a cake in my life. I just read for weeks upon weeks and got into grain.
If you want bulk, and have the money, I'd say go balls to the wall and do a monotub. We on shroomery can help guide you along the way


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: Buck513]
    #21989036 - 07/24/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Thanks buck I hadnt come across that before. Im considering trying a mini monotub for my next grow..do you recommend it over cakes?



It all depends what you're wanting out of this hobby.

I personally have never grown a cake in my life. I just read for weeks upon weeks and got into grain.
If you want bulk, and have the money, I'd say go balls to the wall and do a monotub. We on shroomery can help guide you along the way




Thanks for the offer, once im finished travelling and im settled for a couple of months again thats the plan and ill be back for help no doubt! :smile:

Ill do my research on agar as well even if i dont do it now its good to know.


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: Medicated-420]
    #21989063 - 07/24/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you're looking for simplicity, here ya go. About as simple as a man can break it down
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: Medicated-420]
    #21989067 - 07/24/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Am i right in saying that the cake in picture 4 and 5 is just left with aborts that need to be picked off now before re-dunking the cake?


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: Medicated-420]
    #21989072 - 07/24/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek

Part 3 he makes one :goodluck:

Yup those are aborting because not enough FAE.


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: taGyo]
    #21989083 - 07/24/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They do look like they're aborting, but pins can also survive a dunk.


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: taGyo]
    #21989090 - 07/24/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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taGyo said:
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek

Part 3 he makes one :goodluck:

Yup those are aborting because not enough FAE.




I cant believe thats all down to fae! great to know now rather than later though. The tek i used said drop them in a bucket thats got perlit in it, no holes or fae lol. Wish id seen that tek before i started.


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Re: Golden Teacher Success and Questions [Re: Buck513]
    #21989096 - 07/24/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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They do look like they're aborting, but pins can also survive a dunk.



:whathesaid: Not sure if those'll make it out though.

FAE is extremely important to cubensis, imagine being in a room with no air, just a humid box. You'd abort too!


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