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ShamanicMushroom
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Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy!
#21987777 - 07/23/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is my first project:
I have often thought about the benefits that the use of substances such as salvia and datura have brought me. I realized that people are always biased to only one way of thought, their own. However psychedelics taught me how to abstain from being biased and opening myself up to every philosophy and culture. I want to share these wonderful plants with the member of my community, so I have decided that once I am well and able I wish to start a mid-size garden ( about 0.5-1.0 acre ) and fill it with psychoactive plants. But what separates my garden from others? I will allow people to freely use and take some of the plants according to their need ( I will also have a small pond with koi, as well as a meditation area so the enlightening effects may be exerienced in a peaceful place. ) Everything will be grown without the aid of chemicals, one hundred percent natural. And only legal plants will be grown.
I wish only to spread the knowledge I have obtained through my use of psychoactive plants. However, I need help from the good people of shroomery to provide seeds and spores to help establish this magic garden ( also to come up with a name ) These are a few plants I wish to grow;
Kava Salvia Divinorum Hawiian Baby Wood Rose Poppies Valerian Passionflower Nutmeg coffee lemon balm california poppy tobacco blue lotus san pedro ephedra catnip damiana yerba mate peruvian torch amanita muscara morning glory mimosa hostillis wild dagga lions tail skullcap white lotus sacred blue lily prickly poppy cebil kanna sinuichi yohimbe calamus betel guarana kola catuaba iporuru lagochilus mulungu indian warrior scotch broom opium lettuce voacanga wormwood tree tobacco mapacho adru plant that produces the velvet bean deadly nightshade datura ( innoxia, stramonium, etc. ) hemlock mandrake brugmasia cocao parsley mulberries areca coleus henbane aztec tobacco ginseng ginkgo green tea maca marihuanilla pink lotus st. johns wort jasmine peppermint coltsfoot lavender mullein mugwort calandine hops lobelia marjoram motherwort sassafrass bishop wort yerba santa chamomile white sage hoorny goat weed ashwaganda holy basil bay plant sleepy grass mosaic plant ice plant joint fir german chamomile agara bala
( IF YOU KNOW ANYMORE, PLEASE DONT HESITATE TO SHARE!!! )
Thanks for help/feedback in advance!
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Re: Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy! [Re: ShamanicMushroom]
#21987791 - 07/23/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think you need to update your definition of "few" 
Wish you luck in your endeavor, I think it'd be hard to keep it up and running though. Just because they're technically legal, doesn't mean it won't be an uphill battle once the right people catch wind of it. I also think you over-estimate the sharing nature of people in general. Probably wouldn't take too long before high school kids learned of it and decided to clean the place out.
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Re: Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy! [Re: ShamanicMushroom] 1
#21987801 - 07/23/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Post it in here man, you will the kind of replies you want http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/23
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Re: Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy! [Re: Artnotwar]
#21987874 - 07/23/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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hey bunch of plant lovers are in the pub too
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ShamanicMushroom
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Re: Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy! [Re: zZZz]
#21992531 - 07/24/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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plus the people in the ethnobotanical garden locked it... assholes.
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Re: Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy! [Re: Shroomslip]
#21992681 - 07/24/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: I think you need to update your definition of "few" 
Wish you luck in your endeavor, I think it'd be hard to keep it up and running though. Just because they're technically legal, doesn't mean it won't be an uphill battle once the right people catch wind of it. I also think you over-estimate the sharing nature of people in general. Probably wouldn't take too long before high school kids learned of it and decided to clean the place out.
QFT. Sadly this is the reality of it. Though I do tip my hat to you good sir, and I hope that everything works out in your favor. I would love to see some pics of your progress and of everything after it's all up and running.
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Re: Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy! [Re: ShamanicMushroom]
#21992734 - 07/24/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not sure where you could publicly have this said garden. It would have to be your own plot open to the public. That would be very costly but if you had the money go for it. Cacti grow themselves. The others are probably all really finicky. I remember growing salvia indoors and it was a nightmare. you would have to make zoning sections basically in your own garden to accommodate each varieties needs.
A greenhouse would be more suitable for random exotic plants.
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Re: Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy! [Re: Gorlax]
#21993049 - 07/24/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Unless you have land in Hawaii(or an amazing commercial greenhouse), a lot of those plants will not grow, and if you do have land in Hawaii, a lot of those plants will not grow.
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Re: Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy! [Re: ShamanicMushroom]
#21993356 - 07/25/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ShamanicMushroom said: plus the people in the ethnobotanical garden locked it... assholes.
so you're going to plant a free garden and you're here trying to solicit frees seeds from members with only 11 posts and only registered a couple of months, didnt read the rules of the forum but did a copy/paste of this thread to another forum, listing a lot of plants that could be used but are fucking toxic as fuck
I suspect a thread lock is the least of your concerns
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Re: Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy! [Re: passifloracaerulea]
#21993413 - 07/25/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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passifloracaerulea said: Unless you have land in Hawaii(or an amazing commercial greenhouse), a lot of those plants will not grow, and if you do have land in Hawaii, a lot of those plants will not grow.
you can grow anything indoors
outside we are ants inside we are god
ps would love to go to a drug garden do it in colorado so theres some weed at the end of the tour or whatever and like a weed gift shop with all that jazz n shit
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passifloracaerulea



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Re: Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy! [Re: Shroomopotamus]
#21993428 - 07/25/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's why I put greenhouse in parentheses. Some plants on the list also require a cold winter for dormancy, intense dry heat, etc. The kind of operation that could support all of these species would cost ove 100k just for the multiple greenhouses.
Edited by passifloracaerulea (07/25/15 12:43 AM)
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Re: Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy! [Re: Shroomopotamus]
#21993436 - 07/25/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've seen it said before in this thread, but you would definitely want a greenhouse of some sort. Public is good, but I'd make it more community based; like get a few cool cats together with the same dream, have them help out, then they invite their friends. Just make it a space where the idea of cleaning it out is totally not cool, but newcomers are not shunned. Think ngo's 
Problems aside with the technical aspects I'd love to come and meditate in a place like that and meet like minded friends. I had a little garden with stuff like this going for a while but it was all artificially controlled as far as humidity, temp, and light went.
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Re: Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy! [Re: lood_dood]
#21993449 - 07/25/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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And he could do this easily. I've had greenhouses packed with entheos, and permacultured into my gardens. He's just gotta have a shit ton of money or cut about half off his list, which is still a huge list. Most of these plants aren't normal garden plants and require very subjective individual care. This will require a horticultural degree or an interest that surpasses an education.
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Re: Starting A Public Ethnobotanical Garden For All To Enjoy! [Re: ShamanicMushroom]
#21993485 - 07/25/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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passifloracaerulea said: And he could do this easily. He's just gotta have a shit ton of money or cut about half off his list, which is still a huge list. Most of these plants aren't normal garden plants and require very subjective individual care. This will require a horticultural degree or an interest that surpasses an education.
This.
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