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What are the more potent strains
    #2198753 - 12/24/03 12:12 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I have a buddy growing some GT and I will be doing some mex. scletara(sp).. In amsterdam I really fell in love with Philosopher stones and the Hawian mushroom that was only as big as a blade of grass (which I can't seem to find)..

Anyway,
What are the more potent strains. I have heard cyaneses the most potent. what spacific strains are the most potent?

Thanks,

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Re: What are the more potent strains [Re: ofb11]
    #2199124 - 12/24/03 05:12 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

P. Azurescens, P.cyanescena, Paneolus Cyanescens (Hawaiian), Paneolus tropicalis.

this are a few examples of mushrooms that are more potent than P.Cubensis (GT for example)


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Re: What are the more potent strains [Re: ofb11]
    #2199372 - 12/24/03 10:14 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

What youre talking about is species, not strains...but anyways, the most potent species are supposed to be woodlovers like p.Azurescens and psilocybe Cyanescens...

BTW, the mushrooms you talk about who were as thick as a blade of grass , are probably copelandia cyanescens,  an above average potency mushroom. Takes only like 1-2 grams to trip hard. And the strain is probably hawian if they call em hawians :tongue: ...


Edited by Grapefruity (12/24/03 03:46 PM)


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Re: What are the more potent strains [Re: ofb11]
    #2199726 - 12/24/03 02:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

List from strongest to weakest
P. azurenscens
P. bohemica
P. semilanceata
P. baeocystis
P. cyanescens .
P. tampanensis
P. cubensis
P. weilii .
P. hoogshagenii .
P. stuntzii
.P. cyanofibrillosa .
P. liniformans .-Erowid


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Re: What are the more potent strains [Re: ofb11]
    #2199818 - 12/24/03 03:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

is the P. cyanescens panaeolus or psilocybe , Gorian?

I don't know ive always heard by people here that psilocybe cyanescens is the most potent...


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Re: What are the more potent strains [Re: Grapefruity]
    #2199932 - 12/24/03 05:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It's Psilocybe cyanescens, definately not, azurenscens are the most potent.


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Re: What are the more potent strains [Re: Gorian]
    #2200211 - 12/25/03 12:22 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Also some species loose a lot of potency when drying while others hold their potency well. Baeocystis often drops potency heavily when drying, while cubensis handles drying much better.


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Re: What are the more potent strains [Re: Gorian]
    #2207170 - 12/29/03 08:30 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Stamet's list is based on misleading alkaloid analysis and should be used in any way to reference mushrooms for their potency upon bioassay!
There isnt really much in that last that is correct.
Firstly, Gartz demonstrated that cyanescens was more potent than azurescens - as with recent studies of a mushroom found by Anno in austria which also yielded higher maxima. From bioassay, i would say that azurescens seemed slightly less potent than cyanescens, subaeruginosa and allies, but this is questionable. As they all represent fairly recent delineations from the one true 'cyanescens' type, the differences between potency are neglible.
Subaeruginosa when alkaloid analysis was conducted yielded lower alkaloid levels than the above, but you can bioassay them yourself and you will see the similarities.
Baeocystis is mildly to hihgly potent, but no where near as potent as Psilocybe cyanescens, azurescens, subaeruginosa, eucalypta, cyanescens, etc. (all of the same family or group of woodloning psilocybes)
Similarly mushrooms of the Weilli branch - aucklandii, zapotecorum, etc are also extremely potent upon bioassay.
Other woodloving Psilocybe groups are also highly potent.
Semilanceata, mexicanna, tampensis and the panaeolus species are also quite potent, but less so than the woodloving species.
To put cubensis on that list at all where it is is ludicrious - weilli would be three times more potent than cubensis - i know of atleast two people who would swear that weilli is more potent than cyanescens!


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