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Whats the easiest and most efficient way to smoke dmt? I was thing about making a pipe by drilling a hole into a glass bottle and putting wire mesh in the top so I could vaporize the DMT but I dont have the necessary tools however I was thinking would it correctly vaporize the DMT if I put wire mesh in the downstem of a bong and did the same thing just instead of a bottle just use a piece would it be any different with wire mesh in a pipe?
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Buy a glass or metal pipe, shove 3 or 4 screens in there with some ash, sprinkle dmt on top. Boom.
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or you can do the sandwich method
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^^ howd the 5 gram trip go?!
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Ive tried many ways.
A meth lipe with a torch lighter is the only way to reliably breakthrough.
Save ur dmt till you have one.
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Btw bill i just read your iv 4acodmt report.
Soo similar to certain aspects of my dmt breakthrough its nuts.
I plan to iv 40mg 4aco because even though im terfified i want to be in that reality for longer than dmt can provide.
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Haven't taken them yet t minus one hour. And I've heard iv dmt is as crazy as it gets but I'm too afraid of needles to shoot anything
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fuck putting it in my veins I'm not qualified for that shit. psyches are crazy enough as it is
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I learned this method from my little DMT elf/procurer recently. Just had 4 breakthrough trips on it this weekend. I had previous to this weekend, smoked with a glass pipe (meth pipe), and tried to vaporize into a big hit. Never could smoke enough to break through this way.
However when I went on some psychedelic journeys this weekend with 4g of mushrooms, and 4 DMT trips (the DMT trips were prior to the mushrooms, and the 4th was the day after), he showed me this method, and I finally broke through, all times, complete ego loss, ego death, conversing with entities, being pleasantly ground up by the machine elves as they allowed me to fully accept my life, good, bad, mortality and death, speaking parallel conversations in many languages, with "elves" which were created within the moments between moments, communication I can't really describe. It was intense, but pleasant and easy, we could communicate so quickly in this hyper-efficient manner, and all was understood so simply, pain, death, connection to all beings and matter, my pain, it's purpose, everyone's pain and purpose.. though words, language, associations, and meanings held strong in the trips as well where necessary..
Bong Method: He says this wastes a little more DMT, but it's much easier. I think what was a waste were the times prior to this I never was able to break through the other way.
if you empty the water out of a bong, you can basically sandwich (he said we did about 50mg+ per trip), some DMT crystals between weed. Remember this is an empty dry bong. The idea is you get a big huge hit of it sandwiched between weed (unless you have an issue with weed, you can probably find a way to just use the dmt, though I'm not sure). You should always take a second hit if you can.
You or a friend (I suggest someone else) light it so it cherries really good and let the heat go down and vaporize through the weed to the DMT. While this is happening, pull a huge hit into the bong, breathe out your nose to exhale, take a huge hit, and if you can take a second, exhale, and take a 2nd huge hit, hold in as long as you can. Make sure your friend is manning the bong, because they can man it better than you can, especially if they are familiar with vaporizing DMT. But I think I could have managed solo after I figured it out the first time, though a dropped bong/cherry isn't something I want to risk.
By the time I'm pulling in the 2nd hit, my vision is usually almost gone and completely overlaid with heavily breathing fractals that I can feel pulsing and pulling me in at the rhythm of my deep breaths. Even if I'm already starting to trip and lay back, I try to wait to exhale as long as I possibly can, but sometimes I'm already being pulled deep into vast colors/visuals in my trip, and my breath is sort of the only familiar rhythm I'm left with. So sometimes I exhale just as I'm starting to feel myself smile and giggle at the sweet, shy, and loving nature of the elves, before my subconscious feels as though it's being pulled through every dimension and stripped of ego.
This is how I had 4 successful, and incredibly strong DMT trips. He didn't even think we had enough left on the 4th trip to equal half of one of the others, but it was one of the stronger trips of the 4. So start smaller if you don't mind wasting a bit to test, or just go with the amount you normally do.
There is no harsh taste, aside from a slightly harsh bongrip of weed, but I can't recall any real taste or struggle with taking in the vapors like I did out of a glass pipe. It was so easy, and it was so amazing. The other method held me back from being able to breakthrough in the past, so trying it this way truly changed my life, and didn't feel difficult on my lungs at all.
It was easy, and I'm tiny and don't have huge lung capacity.
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Poppy pod said: Btw bill i just read your iv 4acodmt report.
Soo similar to certain aspects of my dmt breakthrough its nuts.
I plan to iv 40mg 4aco because even though im terfified i want to be in that reality for longer than dmt can provide.
I highly suggest you IV 20-25mg. To be honest, the amount i IV'd that day could have been 15-50mg...i have no clue. The craziest aspect which i don't know if i was blessed to go through or not...was not knowing what was to come. I thought i was shooting only a little amount and it wasn't going to be a big deal...then i fucking died.
That's one thing you wont have...is the total unexpectedness..which i think is a good thing. Because when it hit me, i literally thought i had just killed myself. And no, not like DMT and mushroom trips where you feel like you died. This rush was so intense and alien to any other kind of rush, such as coke or heroin, that i honestly thought i had just killed myself. All i could do was surrender and let it take me. Ill never forget that feeling man..the feeling of knowing you let down your whole family because you wanted to get high...knowing how sad they would be that i had died..no words to explain it..i don't wish it on anyone
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Fuckkkkkkk that bro. I already feel like I'm dead when I smoke it. Can't imagine the rush from iv.
I heard that Todd skinner would have an iv dmt set up hooked up to his arm and just let dmt constantly flow into him. That's fucking scary, what if you dial in too much and you can't turn it down or off? I guess you would definitely need a sober person with you
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Ahaha i know right? Theres a reason why i havent even thought about IVing it again.i honestly believe that if i knew half of what was to come before i shot it then i wouldnt have done it. The only reason i even did it was pure curiosity.
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Poppy pod said: Btw bill i just read your iv 4acodmt report.
Soo similar to certain aspects of my dmt breakthrough its nuts.
I plan to iv 40mg 4aco because even though im terfified i want to be in that reality for longer than dmt can provide.
I highly suggest you IV 20-25mg. To be honest, the amount i IV'd that day could have been 15-50mg...i have no clue. The craziest aspect which i don't know if i was blessed to go through or not...was not knowing what was to come. I thought i was shooting only a little amount and it wasn't going to be a big deal...then i fucking died.
That's one thing you wont have...is the total unexpectedness..which i think is a good thing. Because when it hit me, i literally thought i had just killed myself. And no, not like DMT and mushroom trips where you feel like you died. This rush was so intense and alien to any other kind of rush, such as coke or heroin, that i honestly thought i had just killed myself. All i could do was surrender and let it take me. Ill never forget that feeling man..the feeling of knowing you let down your whole family because you wanted to get high...knowing how sad they would be that i had died..no words to explain it..i don't wish it on anyone
I didnt just think i died on dmt i felt myself poop pee and orgasm all at once and immediatly experienced eternity in another dimension i was convinced i was dead when i remembered i was human. 
But on 9 grams cubensis i thought i died and ketamine and ur right its totally different.
Thanks for the advice.
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I had that same feeling about my husband and family. The "oh shit i really did it this time" i let everyone down and killed myself with a siezure or something.
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Im just talking about the initial rush from the 4aco..its totally alien to anything you have ever felt before. Its literally like a freight train hitting you at 100 mph. Your mind is just blasted into matrix like simulation codes while experiencing the most ruthless intensity imaginable.
I understand how all of my descriptions on IV 4aco can be said for DMT experiences but let me tell you...this is a whole different level just like dmt is a different level to LSD.
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I believe u.
Psilocybin is totally different than dmt and i am waaay too scared to IV 40mg of that lol.
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The extremely odd part of the experience though is that the chemical actually feels rather safe. I know thats hard to understand seeing as how i thought i literally killed myself
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Ya dmt was the same for me it wasnt that my body felt sick or my heart was going to explode.
I thought i died because my mind couldnt handle the insane stimuli of all the info in the universe apilling in all at once.
It was "death by astonishment" siezure or something like that lol.
That rush you described sounds insane.
Ive done iv coke heroin and mda and those didnt hold a candle to that dmt breakthrough.
And you said its waay more intense than that lol.
Im scaredcited!
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dannydarko said: Whats the easiest and most efficient way to smoke dmt? I was thing about making a pipe by drilling a hole into a glass bottle and putting wire mesh in the top so I could vaporize the DMT but I dont have the necessary tools however I was thinking would it correctly vaporize the DMT if I put wire mesh in the downstem of a bong and did the same thing just instead of a bottle just use a piece would it be any different with wire mesh in a pipe?
You can put Brillo in your bong bowl and smoke the dmt like that. I say the bowl and not down stem because you want to be able to clear it.
I use a knock off healthstone now when I vape the spice of life. But still in my bong bowl
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i prefer a health stone inside a large glass bowl-stem, inside a ice-filled bong.
Then hit the DMT with a torch lighter at around 4-5 inches.
Works great
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These ways are so much more complicated and potentially wasteful.
A meth pipe is 5$.
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We worry that adding ice to the bong will cause the DMT to crystalize around the ice much faster, and thus create less vapor, wasting more, so we don't add ice, but I imagine it could soften the bonghit, and make it easier, I think it may just use more, as it will re-crystalize from the cold ice. I didn't have any problem with it in just a dry bong, no ice, no water.
I might as well throw a bit of a trip report/breakdown here regarding near-death experience, since some of you guys have talked about it.. I've wanted a place to ramble about my trips from last weekend, and really reflect on them, and I'm hoping this is as appropriate a place as any, until I can put together a full trip report of the whole weekend, and process things further.
My 3rd DMT trip this last weekend was far too hard, and I was experiencing too much ego loss, to really understand if I was dead or alive, or what I was, but all these things existed simultaneously.. I saw my pasts, present life, and all the meaning and purpose of my being flow through me. I felt my shame, I heard myself resounding, my fears, my embarrassments, but it was ok, nothing was bad or good, in fact it was all amazing. I felt the presence of what felt like a "god-like entity" (not in the traditional sense), and what was most confusing, was that I felt as though I was being told I was this presence, this god existed within me.. I felt like I was being ground up in a machine of fractals, but those assisting with the process were not harmful, and were loving, and all I felt from it was love.. I felt that my pain was more profound than I realized, that it had meaning and connection to everything in the world, that it wasn't bad. I have to believe we are all this presence, our existence and what we put out into the world is what makes us, in some ways.. this entropy of quantum entangled beauty, that connects our consciousness and all that can or can't be explained... What better name for it than god. I don't want to come away from the experience thinking the DMT elves told me I was a god, but I want to understand it more thoroughly.. I even joked with my friend 'I didn't have ego loss, I had ego inflation, the elves told me I'm a god!' -all in good fun, truly I am a physics/science nerd, so the kind of 'one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively' that I imagine to be god, is the quantum foam that connects us all, all the matter, energy, all living beings, everything... Everything has it's purposeful roles..
Dying/Near Death Experience on DMT My 4th DMT trip was half lucid, in that I had taken a bit of a stimulant, and actually talked, and could open my eyes and slightly see through some of it, but I was tripping incredibly hard, and fought it some of the way. I think I fought falling into it and letting go because the strength of it felt very intense.. and I was almost a bit nervous.. when the trip wasn't too hard for me to verbalize what was happening, as I came off the peak, I just said in a weak voice 'I love you.. I love you.. I love you'.. over and over and over. All I Could feel was love emanating from me, and all I wanted was to sacrifice every part of me to love, to everything in the world that needed it.
There was one moment where I think I uttered 'xanax?', because it felt so intense, but I didn't really want xanax, luckily my trip sitter knew this.. I was just overwhelmed a bit by where the trip was taking me, and being half-lucid for it, unlike the 3 other very intense trips.
As I could verbalize things a bit better, I was still laying immobile, and my vision was still completely obscured by fractals which heaved and echo'd all these incredible feelings through me, all the discoveries, and acceptance of pain and death, and I fully believed I was dying, and it was ok, and that my trip sitter/boyfriend and I had come to terms with my death together. It was my time to die, it was so beautiful, and I was dying, this was it, and I was not meant to hang onto life any longer, this was what was to be, and it felt so right.
My death had so much meaning, and it was beautiful. My trip sitter(bf) said I was staring off, and when I reached for their hand, I would struggle to reach in the right direction, or focus my eyes, because I was tripping so heavily, as I tried to reach for him, so I was only vaguely lucid... I could only move a little, and utter a word here or there, I could not focus my eyes, or keep them open at will.
This is also what I believe to be a unique side effect of using a stimulant with the DMT, which almost kept me in a half-lucid/awake state, while still pulling me through vortexes of my subconscious. I was completely convinced it was my time to die, and I saw so much beauty in letting go and accepting my death. I truly believed my boyfriend/sitter came to terms with it too. I kept saying "I'm ready, I love you, I'm ready, I love you".
The trip felt like it lasted forever, and I remember wanting it to be over, but this is part of the trip, I'm glad it lasted as long as it did. I think part of being ready for it to be over, was also the thought that I was dying, and I was ready to be dead, or wasn't certain if I was dead, still dying, or dancing in the afterlife, was I meant to still be here? I kept letting go, almost uncertain of how I was still conscious in any way, but everything felt so beautiful and warm, that I was not in any pain and any fear I had was paired with the warm embrace of acceptance, amazement, and wonder at everything I was experiencing.
My bf/sitter didn't really understand what I meant, until I started to say "water, or do I die? should I die? or water? Should I no longer fight to stay alive and replenish my thirst if I'm meant to die? What should I do?" I asked him faintly and confused.
At this point he said 'Die!!! What! No.. I need you, please don't die, what do you mean die", and I was shocked and said "oh .. so I shouldn't die? it's not my time?"
He said "NO! I love you, I need you, you can't die, what do you mean". He was very worried I was actually having a bad time, but I felt incredible, amazing, and fully accepting of my mortality. I felt very bad that I had scared him later, when I was feeling ultimately blissful, but I think he could see the bliss on my face.
I smiled and said "Oh ok, if you want me to live, I am ready to live, please do not be scared, it's not bad, I'm just ready to die, I thought we were ready for me to die, but if that's not the case, can I have a sip of water?"
He grabbed me water, and tried to help me drink it since I couldn't really move or lean up on my own. He said 'acceptance with death is ok, but it's not time for you to die". This helped me realize I was coming back from a trip, and not necessarily meant to die.
The fractals were still thick over my vision, heaving alongside auditory hallucinations and taking me in and out of the room/present, and I kept talking about dying, and being ready to die, and how beautiful everything was, and repetitively moaning
"I love you.. I love you so much.. I love you so much" While we clinged to each other as tight as possible.
I think I scared my poor boyfriend, but it was absolutely fantastic. I felt like mother Ayahuasca took me in her arms and said 'it's time to die, and it's going to be fantastic, look at all you've accomplished, look at all the people you've touched, look at all the life that remains, and how beautiful it is, this is death, and this is life, they dance together closely, and are intertwined so tightly, and yet they are dimensions apart.. Look at how beautiful vacillating between the boundary of life and death is.. and ultimately you are safe, and everything is ok, all is well, all is full of love"
We got up, made bacon, and did our morning routine before my boyfriend had to go to work, and I just kept giggling and dancing around the kitchen while making him coffee, exclaiming how amazing everything was, how amazing my journeys were, how amazing and beautiful everything was, how much I loved him and everything.. And how I was just in disbelief of everything, and how I had to understand it, and tell the world, and keep writing and remembering everything, because it was too precious, to incredible, to ever forget or let stray from my heart..
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The bottle the OP is describing is what people call "the machine", it uses steel mesh like a crackpipe to vaporize the crystal thru convection and it works fantastic.
OP if you have a drill all you need is to buy a five dollar glass drillbit or use a dremel to drill the hole.

I use these. A glass to glass bong stem or a pipe to hold bong slide... theyre like ten bux... I shove the mesh about an inch down and hold the lighter at the lip. The heat from flame heats up the coils in the mesh and vaporizes the DMT without burning any
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Poppy pod said: These ways are so much more complicated and potentially wasteful.
A meth pipe is 5$.
Can you link me to where I can get one of these 5 dollar meth pipes?
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i cant tell if you're joking or serious 
eBay?
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Lol im serious..so ebay has em?
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Bill_Oreilly said: Lol im serious..so ebay has em?
Almost every head shop has them. Check the glass or if you Cant see them, sometimes you have to ask. They're commonly Called glass roses, rose pipes, or oil burners.
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Poppy pod said: These ways are so much more complicated and potentially wasteful.
A meth pipe is 5$.
Can you link me to where I can get one of these 5 dollar meth pipes?
dude you can go to a smoke shop and buy em for like $3
and to the op, i've always had great success with the sandwich method. i always just use sage, or weed sometimes, and hit it until the bowl is ashed and i'm in hyperspace.
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I went to 2 different smoke shops and they didnt have any. Ill keep looking though.
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they will kick you out of the store in some places if you call them pipes, didn't happen to me in Florida but happened here in Colorado.. Some headshops call them "Oil burners" .. Just FYI so you don't get kicked out of a store when you find one that carries them , choose your words wisely
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Ive heard smoking out of a bong gives you the PHATTEST hits.
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I heard that the crackpipe method is the best
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I have a glass blunt that I put some clean steel wool in and smoked oil off of. that's what I plan on using to smoke DMT on when i get the chance
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Is everyone just ok with using metal wool to vape? Are none of you worried about metal fuming?
If you dont smoke weed, just smoke it on top of passion Flower. It's an maoi and you can buy it in large amounts Online or in smaller amounts at some head shops or herbal remedy shops. Passiflora incarnata is the one you're looking for
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If you dont smoke weed, just smoke it on top of passion Flower. It's an maoi and you can buy it in large amounts Online or in smaller amounts at some head shops or herbal remedy shops. Passiflora incarnata is the one you're looking for
Passion flower is a little harsh on the throat tho imo.. Do you find passion flower itself increases the dmt experience, or would I need an extract of some sort?
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i have passion flower growing near bloom maybe gonna try it
for the OP
a good ,big glass bong and a healthstone and a torch (thanks to LC for the tip on the healthstone )
or a oil rig at the perfect temp
both gets you really high easily. with the pipe its like you need incredible will power . with the bong or the rig you get there by accident
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The crack bong is where it's at. I won't blastoff with anything but a modified bong.
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The crack bong!

And thanks for mentioning me Jean-Guy Masta, i love my health stone too. A little pricey, but worth every dollar when you get to smoke the DMT By itself with nothing else needed
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Basically sounds a lot like what happens to me on a high dose. I never realized that at every moment of the day I know who I am or so I think I know who I am. On DMT suddenly not only was I not me but I had no concept of physical existence as a human or anything else. Forget about time when I'm there I've always been there and it feels like I'll never leave. I was nothing any everything all at once. Reality was here nor there but everywhere and it was everything but what I thought it was. I could write about it for days. Mushrooms and DMT always feel like an information download of the existential type.
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crack bongs for the win..
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Seriously everyone....put away your oil burners, and your "machines". THIS is the only way to do dmt. you will waste FAR less than doing it any other way, and you will guarantee you blast off, every time. Try it and report back.
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natedawgnow said: Is everyone just ok with using metal wool to vape? Are none of you worried about metal fuming?
If you dont smoke weed, just smoke it on top of passion Flower. It's an maoi and you can buy it in large amounts Online or in smaller amounts at some head shops or herbal remedy shops. Passiflora incarnata is the one you're looking for
Passion flower is a little harsh on the throat tho imo.. Do you find passion flower itself increases the dmt experience, or would I need an extract of some sort?
Always down to try smoking DMT in new ways 
Passion flower definitely increases the experience in my Opinion. But if you dont want the hassle of it, just Use a dab rig and heat up a nail and pour 50 mg on it.
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Rigs are also a nice way to blast off...
I even enjoy smoking laced joints when I have a bunch of dmt laying around.
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Bill_Oreilly said: I went to 2 different smoke shops and they didnt have any. Ill keep looking though.
they will kick you out of the store in some places if you call them pipes, didn't happen to me in Florida but happened here in Colorado.. Some headshops call them "Oil burners" .. Just FYI so you don't get kicked out of a store when you find one that carries them , choose your words wisely 
ahaha yeah I learned that lesson way back in the day...I was like 17, I went into a porn shop and said the word "bong" to my buddy and the guy was like "uhp, you said bong now we cant sell you one"...so I picked out what I wanted and had another friend walk in and buy it. But ever since then I never used any key words like that.
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Rebelutionsssss said: I heard the meth pipe method doesn't really work that well
I heard that as well, but I also heard they work the best so idk what to think. I think the key is to use a torch lighter. I mean I see people on drug shows smoke meth and they seem to be super effective...so why wouldn't it be with DMT?
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I heard that as well, but I also heard they work the best so idk what to think. I think the key is to use a torch lighter. I mean I see people on drug shows smoke meth and they seem to be super effective...so why wouldn't it be with DMT?
I think the surface area really matters. Small chambers seem to help a lot if you don't have metal wool. I tried to smoke some out of a large pipe with a big chamber and the DMT just seemed to "run away" from the heat source no matter how I held it.
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I heard that as well, but I also heard they work the best so idk what to think. I think the key is to use a torch lighter. I mean I see people on drug shows smoke meth and they seem to be super effective...so why wouldn't it be with DMT?
People who don't like the meth pipe are using it incorrectly, but no shame in that.. took me close to .5 grams of dmt to learn how to vape it properly . The "crack pipe" should never leave black residue from the lighter on the outside of the glass, hold the flame about 2 inches under the glass so the tip of the flame is under the glass but far away. roll the pipe back in forth ever so slightly so more than 1 spot of the glass heats up...
Once you start seems VERY THIN FAINT fumes smoking up hold the lighter for another half second in 1 spot then let the flame off and inhale slowly while rolling the deemz into the 1 spot that is a tad hotter.. roll it back and forth.. back and forth.. youl see like a faint mist being made, that's the good stuff right there, if it starts smoking a lot and taste horribly harsh, you got it too hot and burnt your jungle spice!
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a great method is to make a ghetto bong with a pookie, or a pookie with a water filter, load up the deems, and have a candle lit under it. the candle slowly melts the deems and vapor starts to emerge, let it build up a bit, then take a fat hit. this method allows you to take fat rips. i was able to finish off the deems in one hit, but i was on some acid. anyway, i fucking shot through the barrier and witnessed one of the most beautiful events of my life.
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natedawgnow said: Is everyone just ok with using metal wool to vape? Are none of you worried about metal fuming?
If you dont smoke weed, just smoke it on top of passion Flower. It's an maoi and you can buy it in large amounts Online or in smaller amounts at some head shops or herbal remedy shops. Passiflora incarnata is the one you're looking for
Passion flower is a little harsh on the throat tho imo.. Do you find passion flower itself increases the dmt experience, or would I need an extract of some sort?
Always down to try smoking DMT in new ways 
Passion flower definitely increases the experience in my Opinion. But if you dont want the hassle of it, just Use a dab rig and heat up a nail and pour 50 mg on it.
This method works really well
How does passion flower taste? Im looking for a herb that taste good that wont mask the dmt taste.
besides weed..
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and im not a fan of the dab rig because I don't like to breakthrough in 1 hit. I like to take a hit, then take another if I feel I should. taking 1 massive hit off a dab rig is just too much of a crapshoot IMO.
and of course I cant just take multiple hits off one because I wouldn't want to fiddle with it after the first hit..
this is why I find the sprinkle method, with a glass or metal pipe to be perfect.
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Bill_Oreilly said: and im not a fan of the dab rig because I don't like to breakthrough in 1 hit. I like to take a hit, then take another if I feel I should. taking 1 massive hit off a dab rig is just too much of a crapshoot IMO.
and of course I cant just take multiple hits off one because I wouldn't want to fiddle with it after the first hit..
this is why I find the sprinkle method, with a glass or metal pipe to be perfect.
I'm not the biggest fan but i know it will get me to a breakthrough guaranteed, in my experience. Then again, I can breakthrough near every time i smoke now if i want to.
Sometimes i just puff enough to ride a mellow wave. I like all the levels DMT has to offer.
Passion flower isn't terrible. Its a little spicy in scent and strong in flavor but not bad. Try it for sure though. You want passiflora incarnata specifically
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I have only seen hot railing 1 other time..
I watched this 3 times and fucking gagged... WHO THE FUCK DOES THIS?
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This fucking dude..
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Did you guys ever see that true life on mtv about some bitch who was so called "addicted to Molly" she was doing that to her MDMA. That must be the most retarded way to ingest a drug I've seen, straight tweeker method
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Its the best way to smoke dreamsters
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I think the pipe is the way to go. Or bong
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How was she doing it?
MDMA in Molly form is about as addictive as powder cocaine if you ask me. I know people who blow upwards of a ball every day
Lots of people IV Molly. I know a couple strippers that shoot it as thier drug of choice. I went thru a phase, Id IV 2-3 grams a day. The rush from shooting molly is great it comes on really strong/fast and you even get cool CEVs When you start coming down you fix up another shot and so on so forth untill its all gone. Your arms look like swiss cheese in themorning and your brain chemistry is drained.. depression, anxiety, sooooo down after a long binge its hard to describe.
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How would you even keep shooing MDMA when there's no more serotonin left for your brain to release? And IMO 3 grams is RIDICULOUSLY high and EXTREMELY dangerous. Are you sure it's real MDMA?
And yea any drug can be dangerous if you throw absolutely all caution out the window when using it
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Molly and ecstasy are the fucking devil in drug form. I have seen so many people throw their lives down the toilet from eating too much molly. One friend even suffers from permanent brain damage due to prolonged use.
I have tried most street drugs and I turn down molly that is offered to me alll the time. I used to know this guy that sold and he'd sell some kid some molly, then right after the kid leaves he'd talk about how he has no idea if what he has is actually molly. Now that's just fucked up.
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And yea any drug can be dangerous if you throw absolutely all caution out the window when using it 
Yea def straight Molly or at least as close as a test kit can prove
I dunno man I know Ive always gotten the same effects from each hit, unless you take shots too close to each other
But yea man most of the folks I know that snort it go thru a gram or two a night so I dont see 3 grams being *that* ridiculous
But yea snorting it is bad enough but the IV ROA is a whole nother animal. MDMA in powder form has shorter and more powerfull action I think than the oral route and it turns it into a dirty, feindish drug with addiction profile similar to powder coke
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Whatever you do, DON'T use the "sandwich method" with ash, weed, parsley etc. It's too unreliable and creates nasty burnt plastic tasting smoke that will kill you by choking.
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I heard that as well, but I also heard they work the best so idk what to think. I think the key is to use a torch lighter. I mean I see people on drug shows smoke meth and they seem to be super effective...so why wouldn't it be with DMT?
The reason why a meth pipe works so well for meth and not DMT in my experiences, is because your losing consciousness as your smoking the DMT where as your not when smoking the meth.
I got pretty good at twisting the pipe back in my tweaker days, so my technique isn't in question.
My first hit with the meth pipe filled with dmt went fine, a little different than meth but basically the same. The second hit was not so good, because I was getting very high very fast and shot was moving all around me. I have never gotten to a third hit with the meth pipe because I'm barely able to make out the make let alone hold a flame 2 inches away and not burning while twisting from 10 to 2 at the perfect speed with just the right amount of inhalation....
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Man im sick off this I just came out of hyperspace on a pre used sandwich bowl. I blasted off no problem and this still feels dreamy. Ive been smoking too much DMT but not enough at the same time. But seriously its hard to smoke DMT it really is im thinking of going 100% changa just because you never know with DMT whats going to happen. Ive been blessed with hyperspace a few times but more often than not ill get the dose wrong or hit it wrong or not hold it in. Seriously I feel like I accomplished a difficult task when I smoke it right and then im so extended I mess up my journey. Changa is the way to go you just smoke it and if you dont get enough you just take another one.
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Again, in my experience weed sandwiches suck ass because it makes nasty harsh DMT smoke and apparently meth pipes suck too.
A fucking milk jug works better. That's how much they suck
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Someone wiith photoshop needs to change that "E" to an "A" in "CHANGE".
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Ive used the milk jug many times and its really hard to do. If it gets the slightest bit crumpled on the bottom all your DMT will spread around making it hard to vape it all, meanwhile a tiny amount of smoke is coming out the sides even if you tape it as much as possible. As I said they're all difficult so ima just start going changa only.
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God dammit I always end up on here as im coming down I just got deja vu then realized this is how I always finish my trips. I think shroomery is more addictive than I ever realized.
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I've always wanted to try changa..
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If I could afford acacia, lol
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Idk man ive gotten 5 grams of good quality DMT off 250 grams and that goes for 25 dollars. Im just saying 250 grams is 5 grams and 5 grams can last even a hardened DMT user at least a month.
I used to spend like 400 on weed per month with this im spending like 25 at most (chemicals and solvents included) and im actually getting stuff out if it. I feel more happy and at peace with myself 25 dollars is worth every penny.
Plus i've gone on some deep journeys with my syrian rue based ayahuasca and that is priceless. Seriously man the stuff works once you've seen the jungles you will know. That spotted leopard in my signature means a lot to me man he is in the jungles once you see him your life is improved trust me. I play around with DMT because its fun but oral brews is where its at.
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I thought you had to spend like 300 bucks for a kilo
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Maybe for a kilo of powdered mhrb but not acacia. But even then it's more like 2 bills depending on your source. Also, maybe you are not reaching full breakthrough because of the high NMT content of acacia. Near 50 percent of your end product may be NMT which is not as psychoactive.
I have no problems breaking through no matter my method of ingestion. Just perfect a technique and dont deviate from it to the best of your capabilities.
Then again Ive only used mhrb which gives an end product of near 98% DMT to 2% NMT. At least i'm fairly sure that's the ratio. I'd look it up but i'm on my phone and dont want to hassle with it.
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For the people saying breakthrough is difficult... You seriously need to get your hands on some pure. harmalines. Can be bought online somewhere legally.
So much easier to breakthrough while on harmalas, way crazier trip, completely enveloping, on top of it your tolerance doesn't go way up while on harmalas you can literally smoke dmt back to back no problem.
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So much easier to breakthrough while on harmalas, way crazier trip, completely enveloping, on top of it your tolerance doesn't go way up while on harmalas you can literally smoke dmt back to back no problem.
Is it really the harmaline that makes the biggest difference or is it more just having the spice infused into herbs to make smoking easier? Like changa w harmalas vs enhanced leaf without?
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I don't do change, sorry wanna answer that but no experience with changa.
I orally ingest my harmalas a half hour before smoking dmt.
Harmalas won't be as effective administered with the dmt, or smoked. I know that. But I bet they have an impact on the trip still.
You got to let the harmalines sit with you so the enzymes in your gut have time to be inhibited.
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Thats if you're buying a kilo you can get 100 grams for like 13 dollars and you can get 250 for like 25 dollars. 250 grams is like 4 or 5 grams of smokeable DMT after im done with it. (edit) sorry I was talking to the guy who asked if a key was 300 didn't reload this screen i've been hiking and its been on pause)
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I orally ingest my harmalas a half hour before smoking dmt.
Harmalas won't be as effective administered with the dmt, or smoked. I know that. But I bet they have an impact on the trip still.
You got to let the harmalines sit with you so the enzymes in your gut have time to be inhibited.
When I did it that way with rue the trip felt so meaningful I felt it was trying to show me something that day. When you smoke the MAOIs its the same just longer in low doses its almost exactly like a strong mushroom trip but in high doses you breakthrough into a much more colored environment and that extra 5 minutes in a hyperspace is very a good thing. Idk changa great im just sick of trying to smoke DMT it shouldn't be hard it should just be well changa.
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No way man your burning it if that happens... Never has a sandwich method gone wrong with me and others, unless the bong is shitty and un airtight or burning it too much.. But using one of those flamesizechanging lighters is easy. I even remember a dude that use to just smoke it ontop of the cone piece just crystals no sandwich and he was still managing to have strong trips.
And when lighting the bong you want the top sandwich (weed or whatever) quickly slightly light without too much heat for too long and breathing in slower than you would when your smoking weed.
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Also someone told me that when they heated up the meth pipe bowl before loadin in the deemsters it produced an instant plum of clouds in the pipe as the crystals touched the glass, never have done this so I can't say
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Omg PM me man classic DMT pipe man https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_info1.shtml If you can make the clasic one I would owe you for life it even says you need to find a glass blower to get one.
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I've smoked DMT a bunch of times and finally found the best way.
And so many have said it before.
Make The Machine.
I've wasted so much DMT mixing it with weed and sandwiching it.
I never got to where I want to be using this method.
I just drilled a hole into the bottom of a single shot Jameson bottle. Stuffed Brillo in the neck. Put my Deem onto the brillo and gently hovered the lighter over it to melt it into the brillo.
Then just light the lighter in front of the neck and it vaporizes the DMT better than any other method I've ever tried.
I loaded 100mg as a tester and it blew my fucking head off.
Don't waste your time or DMT sandwichimg with weed.
Just make The Machine so your lungs can get a full hit of Deem and not filling up with smoke from other herb.
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I have tried most street drugs and I turn down molly that is offered to me alll the time. I used to know this guy that sold and he'd sell some kid some molly, then right after the kid leaves he'd talk about how he has no idea if what he has is actually molly. Now that's just fucked up.
DMT, mushrooms, herb for the win all day long. Maybe a little cocaine every now and then 
MDMA is one of the most useful tools I've found in the psychedelic world. You're talking from experience of little 18 year olds who shove as much random powder into their mouth as they can just to catch a buzz. MDMA is really safe is used correctly, ALWAYS use a test kit, ALWAYS weigh out your product, ALWAYS keep hydrated and makes sure you practice safe MDMA use.
I'm sorry you've counted out this amazing substance but when you get pure MDMA taken with good friends it can be the closest bonding experiences you can have with other people.
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The same can be said of any drug used in moderation. The problem is that most people that use molly dont give a shit about moderation, as evident in other posts where people talk about shooting 3 grams a day.
Ive done my fair share and i can say i'm not a fan and i believe it to be more dangerous than you think
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I've been using MDMA for 9 years safely and I have to say it's brought me some of the most amazing experience I've had. I have a good job, amazing family and friends, and a wonderful place to stay. The people you're talking about don't give a shit about anything but getting high. I use MDMA to bond with family and become a more loving person to the people I care about. I know hundreds of people that have used MDMA for years and years that all have great lives. It's the person, not the drug.
Please don't count out this lovely substance because a few people decided to abuse it to the point of destruction. That's like saying you'll count out all psychedelics because a few people you knew decided to eat 2000 hits and lost it.
Check out the MAPS studies on MDMA.
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Actually some of the people I'm talking about were good friends with all the same aspects of life that you just described until they got addicted to molly.
You are talking about your personal experience just like I am talking about mine. MDMA has an addiction profile similar to if not greater than cocaine, and I have personally seen people who used it to enjoy life, like you say, quickly go downhill and use it because they need it to feel emotionally balanced 
I don't have an addictive personality, so I can't personally speak on this subject, just what I have seen from some close friends.
But like you said, to each their own. I have tried my fair share and I am just not sold.
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I find it extremely hard to use MDMA as another addictive drug due to the fact that after rolling for 2 or 3 days there's little to no effect and x1000 more damage to your serotonin.
Sorry about your friends man. I just find it sad that such a beautiful amazing tool can be lost to egotistical junkies trying to get high off of anything and everything. The first thing you should think about when taking entheogens or other entactogens should be safety and how to keep the experience special 
Just out of curiosity what substances do you find your most joy in?
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Well I did try so called mdma but I have no idea if it was actually methylone. It was crystal like shards sure, but I somehow doubt it was real mdma.
Anyways, what I've read online seems to suggest that shrooms or LSD or DMT can be more therapeutic for depression and more useful for emotional bonding than mdma.
As for just feeling good/getting a shallow self centered hedonistic euphoria..nothing I've tried comes close to GOOD cocaine. But to hell with cocaine.
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The first thing they think off is shit where can I score more. Addictions not funny im a pot addict when im around it but pot is the best stuff to be addicted to its cheap easy to find and 20 dollars can supply most heavy stoners with a day's worth of bud.
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MDMA has made me closer to my friends and family than I ever thought possible. I can tell them anything no matter what because of the experiences we've had on MDMA. It made my fiends family
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So do you guys think smoking DMT has a more life altering effect than just drinking it? I took aya before and I can say that a 4 hour trip is definitely altering and you feel it for days afterwards. I can actually remember what the trip was like or how it made me feel I heard with smoking DMT you can't do that.
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ive never eaten it, but smoked DMT is the most intense psychedelic experience of your life.
Imagine a high dose 5-hour shroom trip condensed into about 10 mins. That kinda what smoked DMT is like.
You will travel to alien dimensions and it will feel alien.
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I doubt that smoking DMT is anywhere near as life altering as oral DMT. I haven't experienced oral DMT yet (unfortunately!!!!), so I can't say from personal experience. Smoked DMT is just a flash, essentially
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Does DMT smoked make you feel like you've been dead or that you've "crossed over" to the other side of the grave? Cause that's kinda what aya makes me feel like being that the very word ayahuasca means "liana of the dead".
So do you guys think that this stuff is like knowing what dying is like? Honestly it makes me feel like the material world like my body dies but I'm still alive, tho spiritually only. Its mind-boggling stuff. My body feel slik a dinosaur afterwards I can't really explain it its like you feel it for what it is. I guess its cause the OBE effects the DMT has. I want to know if its really real or I'm interpreting it how it really is. Cause I heard everyone has a different experience because they interpret it differently. What is the truth of DMT tho what does it actually do to the soul/mind/body?
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50 doses of dmt are released in your brain when you die..
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So does that mean your soul/mind leaves your body forever? And do you think you will live forever when that happens? Where the fuck do you actually go?
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no one can really answer that question.
But i do believe dMT can transport you to a different dimension, maybe a spiritual metaphyscial dimension.
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You leave your body as if you're getting really REALLY REALLY High but then you leave the universe and enter a state as if you're flying though a portal of psychedelic nothingness.
Fucking amazing.
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So do you feel really really alienated from society and people when this happens? Cause I did. If felt like everything in life meant nothing. It was like the ultimate detachment.
I bet aya has a more profound effect because you can actually still function and do stuff while on it. Like I was driving when I was on it... don't recommend it tho.
I have been taught to believe in an afterlife and stuff, that's why I am wondering if the DMT experience I had with aya was real or not cause it felt like it was. It was like you saw everything spiritually, the fucking tress looked undescribable to me as they were blowing in the light wind. I was to my friend "omg look at the trees". It was the most amazing thing I ever seen in my life... I came away feeling like this earth and the creation was something far, far more spiritual that we could ever imagine. Its just our ego keeps us from seeing it and we have no spiritual eyes. I also am a creationist too.
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DMT..
After the first hit, everything seems to speed up. You feel your consciousness rise up and dissolve into a higher state of awareness. When I say higher, I literally mean higher, as if you grew an extra forehead capable to seeing more. You hear a high-pitched tone and the air starts to swirl and feel like its being pumped out of the room.
2nd hit... You are feeling everything that I just mentioned, plus an extra sense of the air dissolving into an intelligence. Its forming into something alien that has awareness and feels extremely intelligent. Fractals are flying through the air and the space between you and the walls are filled. You feel something in front of you.
3rd hit..the being in front of you that you felt becomes a complete reality and now is right in front of you.
That is DMT.
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You speak of things happening outside of you, but what does it do to your own consciousness/intelligence? Can you describe that to me?
Maybe its so fast that you don't have time to think about it. Liek I'm sure on oral DMT or shrooms you can think about that plenty. It for sure had me zoomin on that when I was on the aya.
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After the first hit, everything seems to speed up. You feel your consciousness rise up and dissolve into a higher state of awareness. When I say higher, I literally mean higher, as if you grew an extra forehead capable to seeing more. You hear a high-pitched tone and the air starts to swirl and feel like its being pumped out of the room.
2nd hit... You are feeling everything that I just mentioned, plus an extra sense of the air dissolving into an intelligence. Its forming into something alien that has awareness and feels extremely intelligent. Fractals are flying through the air and the space between you and the walls are filled. You feel something in front of you.
3rd hit..the being in front of you that you felt becomes a complete reality and now is right in front of you.
That is DMT.
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How do you make this stuff I wanna try it lol.
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Extract it from certain vines with naptha
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Which ones? Link and guide, do it now.
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Just look up a dmt extraction bro there's tons all over the net. It's really not that hard
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh im going to go insane ive written it so many times... I want 5 shrooms for this (you dont have to but feel free to )
Get acacia confusa root bark powder if your cheap (the end result it the same just different) or get mimosa hostilis root bark powder if you can find it.
Next go to the hardware store and get some naptha and some sodium hydroxide a few very large glass jars and a turkey baster all of that will be like 20 dollars and the bark is like 25 (if its acacia) you can buy more too but I recommend getting 250 grams as a starter.
Ok this is easy stuff to do add 10 cups of water to one of the glasses then add a cup of root bark let that sit in their till it settles and have the water cold. Now have a bottle of vinegar ready and add a spoon full of sodium hydroxide at a time make sure the spoon doesn't get wet. It doesn't matter how much sodium hydroxide you add but add enough that it heats the jar up (do this slowly or it will break the jar) and turns it completely black. Now cap the jar and shake it then open it and let it sit for a little while bubbles will form that's a good sign but if you cap it it will crack the jar and you will have basic soup all around. So just cap it for a breath shake every 15 minutes or so and when the heat passe its time to cap the jar then let it sit for 24 hours.
Now that its been 24 hours add the naphtha to the jar any amount will do but try and only do a little amount (like 100ML) and then seal the jar and shake it till the naphtha disappears. Now take the jar and put it in the sink draw it a nice warm bath and let it sit for 4 hours. By the 4 hours your naptha will have emerged from the outer layer it should look like this the clear part has DMT in it so take the turkey baster and pull it out and put it in a bowl (try and not get the black layer its not good to smoke) chances are no mater how hard you try you will still get small amounts of black so take another bowl and pour the naphtha in it and wipe the black off the bowl and repeat till theirs no more black.
Now you have two options (if its acacia if its mimosa it doesn't matter you'll get crystals either way) you can fan dry the naphtha for goo that looks like this or you can fan dry it till the naptha is supper cloudy then put it in the freezer for 24 houres to get this
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Rebelutionsssss said: I find it extremely hard to use MDMA as another addictive drug due to the fact that after rolling for 2 or 3 days there's little to no effect and x1000 more damage to your serotonin.
Sorry about your friends man. I just find it sad that such a beautiful amazing tool can be lost to egotistical junkies trying to get high off of anything and everything. The first thing you should think about when taking entheogens or other entactogens should be safety and how to keep the experience special 
Just out of curiosity what substances do you find your most joy in?
I agree. Everything in moderation for sure.
DMT is my favorite by far. It is all drugs and pleasureable experiences wrapped up in one amazing molecule.
DMT changed my life the very first time i smoked it.
By the way, aya and pharma may last longer but the peak is no where near as intense as smoked free base.
Thats not to say you cant have a face melting trip on aya cause you definitely can, it's just not as intense as a smoked breakthrough
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Their is no evidence that supports that man... Why its so mainstream is
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Their is no evidence that supports that man... Why its so mainstream is 
I guess it's unethical to do vivisections on humans to find out. I hear they found it in rat ones though
Also a lot of NDEs remind me of DMT trips.
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There was nothing in my state of health to account for it; and I did not try to account for it or to find out whether there was any reason for the fear. I just felt, ‘I am going to die,’ and began thinking what to do about it. It did not occur to me to consult a doctor or my elders or friends. I felt that I had to solve the problem myself, then and there.
The shock of the fear of death drove my mind inwards and I said to myself mentally, without actually framing the words: ‘Now death has come; what does it mean? What is it that is dying? This body dies.’ And I at once dramatized the occurrence of death. I lay with my limbs stretched out stiff as though rigor mortis had set in and imitated a corpse so as to give greater reality to the enquiry. I held my breath and kept my lips tightly closed so that no sound could escape, so that neither the word ‘I’ or any other word could be uttered, ‘Well then,’ I said to myself, ‘this body is dead. It will be carried stiff to the burning ground and there burnt and reduced to ashes. But with the death of this body am I dead? Is the body ‘I’? It is silent and inert but I feel the full force of my personality and even the voice of the ‘I’ within me, apart from it. So I am Spirit transcending the body. The body dies but the Spirit that transcends it cannot be touched by death. This means I am the deathless Spirit.’ (DMT ego death?) All this was not dull thought; it flashed through me vividly as living truth which I perceived directly, almost without thought-process. ‘I’ was something very real, the only real thing about my present state, and all the conscious activity connected with my body was centred on that ‘I’. From that moment onwards the ‘I’ or Self focused attention on itself by a powerful fascination. Fear of death had vanished once and for all. Absorption in the Self continued unbroken from that time on. Other thoughts might come and go like the various notes of music, but the ‘I’ continued like the fundamental sruti note that underlies and blends with all the other notes. Whether the body was engaged in talking, reading, or anything else, I was still centred on ‘I’. Previous to that crisis I had no clear perception of my Self and was not consciously attracted to it. I felt no perceptible or direct interest in it, much less any inclination to dwell permanently in it.
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Still we dont if its freebase DMT or DMT HCL or what it is im sure its something profound but who knows? I just dont believe it because terence mckenna came up with it while tripping balls he is not a reliable source of information.
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thewanderer25 said: Still we dont if its freebase DMT or DMT HCL or what it is im sure its something profound but who knows? I just dont believe it because terence mckenna came up with it while tripping balls he is not a reliable source of information.
I don't think you know Rick Strassman. Also I think Mckenna had like 3 degrees one was in shamanism. Where's your shaman degree?
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How in the world do a get a shaman degree I dont have one but I want one now... But do you go to college for that or is it like in the jungle with real shamans.
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It was actually rick strassman who first said it I believe.
Also, it is a series of chemical reactions between different neurotransmitters, such as tryptophan and serotonin that create a chemical very similar to DMT but not exactly the same.
Small amounts of DMT have been discovered in rodent neurology
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So today after figuring out for sure I got the job I was going for I decided to buy myself something special. I saw a head shop and remembered this thread and wanted to get a dab rig for smoking DMT and wax.
Well...I have 3 different batches of dmt and this new mini dabber with a quarters nail, they were calling them bangers at the head shop.
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thewanderer25 said: Still we dont if its freebase DMT or DMT HCL or what it is im sure its something profound but who knows? I just dont believe it because terence mckenna came up with it while tripping balls he is not a reliable source of information.
Umm mckenna never said dmt was produced in the pineal. You talk as if you know half about drugs as he did..
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After the first hit, everything seems to speed up. You feel your consciousness rise up and dissolve into a higher state of awareness. When I say higher, I literally mean higher, as if you grew an extra forehead capable to seeing more. You hear a high-pitched tone and the air starts to swirl and feel like its being pumped out of the room.
2nd hit... You are feeling everything that I just mentioned, plus an extra sense of the air dissolving into an intelligence. Its forming into something alien that has awareness and feels extremely intelligent. Fractals are flying through the air and the space between you and the walls are filled. You feel something in front of you.
3rd hit..the being in front of you that you felt becomes a complete reality and now is right in front of you.
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Im scared shitless of the police and DMT. Turns out if someone would be caught making even a small amount of DMT in my state there's a minimum mandatory law that says I would have to do at least 25 years which is the same as murder. Im so scared I stopped doing it ive made DMT at least 10 times 2 more and im looking at the same amount of time I could get for columbine (12 were murdered in the shooting so thats 12 of the same minimum sentence charges). Can someone explain how in the world me making 12 jars of DMT from plants and using it for myself is the equivalent of columbium style crimes in the eyes of the law. Like im kinda sketched as fuck 25 years would be the minimum that means if I got 25 there is no early release I do 25 years so I just stoped makeing it out of fear...
How am I such a bad person like sure im not great but surely I dont need to go to jail for 25 years for playing with some sodium hydroxide and mind expanding plants especially when im just useing it for me its not like im out to make money I smoke it I dont sell it. But holly shit I thought it would be like a weed ticket were its just a fine and 90 days of probation. 25 years is too much to risk I would be in my 50s when I got out...
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That is so retarded! 25 years for DMT?!
Come on. Its not even dangerous. Ridiculous!
I would move to another state, but thats me. Never tell anyone IRL u make DMt, except the shroomery. And dont take photos Or take your DMT outside your house!!!
Thats how i got busted for growing weed.
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thewanderer25 said: Im scared shitless of the police and DMT. Turns out if someone would be caught making even a small amount of DMT in my state there's a minimum mandatory law that says I would have to do at least 25 years which is the same as murder. Im so scared I stopped doing it ive made DMT at least 10 times 2 more and im looking at the same amount of time I could get for columbine (12 were murdered in the shooting so thats 12 of the same minimum sentence charges). Can someone explain how in the world me making 12 jars of DMT from plants and using it for myself is the equivalent of columbium style crimes in the eyes of the law. Like im kinda sketched as fuck 25 years would be the minimum that means if I got 25 there is no early release I do 25 years so I just stoped makeing it out of fear...
How am I such a bad person like sure im not great but surely I dont need to go to jail for 25 years for playing with some sodium hydroxide and mind expanding plants especially when im just useing it for me its not like im out to make money I smoke it I dont sell it. But holly shit I thought it would be like a weed ticket were its just a fine and 90 days of probation. 25 years is too much to risk I would be in my 50s when I got out...
If the people who had to make it illegal had to smoke it before hand... There's always this idea too that if you are everything pretending to be different things you wouldn't leave the answer to the riddle of life in plain sight.
I believe if you get caught growing mushrooms it's something crazy like Production and manufacture of illicit compound or some shit
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"Manufacture" means the production, preparation, propagation, compounding, conversion, or processing of a controlled substance, either directly or indirectly by extraction from substances of natural origin, or independently by means of chemical synthesis, or by a combination of extraction and chemical synthesis, and includes any packaging or repackaging of the substance or labeling or relabeling of its container and DMT is schedule one so the minimum sentence is 25 years and the maxim is life. It doesn't mater how much I "Manufactured" or the fact its for personal use because its still manufacturing a schedule one substance of a "stimulant origin" (so they say) which is a 25 year charge and its per extract and it comes with a $25,000 fee...
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that's fucking ridiculously harsh and a waste of resources to bust people for that. You can't even hurt anyone on dmt, you just lay back and meet God. OHHH NOOO big scary dmt is killing Americans by the millions! We have to stop this epidemic!!
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thewanderer25 said: "Manufacture" means the production, preparation, propagation, compounding, conversion, or processing of a controlled substance, either directly or indirectly by extraction from substances of natural origin, or independently by means of chemical synthesis, or by a combination of extraction and chemical synthesis, and includes any packaging or repackaging of the substance or labeling or relabeling of its container, except that this term does not include the preparation or compounding of a controlled substance by an individual for his own use or the preparation, compounding, packaging, or labeling of a controlled substance and DMT is schedule one so the minimum sentence is 25 years and the maxim is life. It doesn't mater how much I "Manufactured" or the fact its for personal use because its still manufacturing a schedule one substance of a "stimulant origin" (so they say) which is a 25 year charge and its per extract and it comes with a $25,000 fee...
That's semantics though. Doesn't that sound ridiculous in it's own right and also because it's made by your body and tons of other things all the time. With mushrooms it's ridiculous because they practically manufacture themselves. Come on does that sound right? You sir face the charge of (drumroll) "Manufacture of illegal mushrooms"
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I mean im sure I wouldn't get caught its unlikely and really who cares? But still im on probation and that guy comes here all the time so I ditched all my jars and naphtha and sadly bark just cause im not about to risk 25 years for a 10 minute trip even though it is DMT... Its worth the experience but only if it was like a couple years in prison not more than i've been on this earth...
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thewanderer25 said: I mean im sure I wouldn't get caught its unlikely and really who cares? But still im on probation and that guy comes here all the time so I ditched all my jars and naphtha and sadly bark just cause im not about to risk 25 years for a 10 minute trip even though it is DMT... Its worth the experience but only if it was like a couple years in prison not more than i've been on this earth...
OK that makes sense. I didn't know you were on probation I would be just as freaked as you
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Its really no big deal im in drug court they dont search my house they just come by once and a while to check in and i've got to attend addiction classes and they see me there. But still I had no clue the charge was as major as it was so I thought nothing of it but im rethinking it im not making it till im off probation. Ahh that will be the day but I think ive derailed the thread enough sorry im a little drunk but ya just no more DMT for me.
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I had a buddy who was busted with a half gram of DMT in pill capsules and the cops had no idea what it was. They tested it for everything under the sun and it came back negative.
He told them it was holistic medication and he never once saw the inside of a jail cell. I don't think most police departments know what DMT is and I'm pretty sure they don't have a sure fire test for it yet, so who knows you may be good.
Well maybe now that it is getting so much public attention they do, but I still don't think they have a test for it.
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They'll probably just make something up and charge you with methamphetamine or some shit. Half the time the drugs some people are charged with are never the chemicals they say they are
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do you really think you would get 25 years? i just cannot imagine that. the jury can refuse to find the defendant guilty, you know. sure, the mandatory minimum is fucked, but do you really think any sensible person is going to put you in jail for 25 fucking years for making some drugs for yourself?
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natedawgnow said: I had a buddy who was busted with a half gram of DMT in pill capsules and the cops had no idea what it was. They tested it for everything under the sun and it came back negative.
He told them it was holistic medication and he never once saw the inside of a jail cell. I don't think most police departments know what DMT is and I'm pretty sure they don't have a sure fire test for it yet, so who knows you may be good.
Well maybe now that it is getting so much public attention they do, but I still don't think they have a test for it.
Of course they have a test for it. You can buy a powder test kit at wallgreens that lists DMT as a substance it can test for
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They reportedly busted a large operation near me (I think it was on a college campus) where they made DMT. They sure knew what it was.
Here's the link http://www.roanoke.com/news/crime/blacksburg/charges-filed-in-suspected-university-terrace-drug-lab/article_346ffa58-d4c2-11e3-bc79-001a4bcf6878.html
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Why in the flying fuck is DMT illegal? It's in no way toxic or even habit forming.
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SpiritualWarrior said: They reportedly busted a large operation near me (I think it was on a college campus) where they made DMT. They sure knew what it was.
Here's the link http://www.roanoke.com/news/crime/blacksburg/charges-filed-in-suspected-university-terrace-drug-lab/article_346ffa58-d4c2-11e3-bc79-001a4bcf6878.html
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It doesn't matter if its toxic or not as a matter of fact the worst drugs are legal. Spice, inhalants, large amounts of alcohol, tobacco, embalming fluid, ect...ect... It seems if it can be beneficial its more illegal (heroin being the only exception)
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XXfuzyxgamingXX said: do you really think you would get 25 years? i just cannot imagine that. the jury can refuse to find the defendant guilty, you know. sure, the mandatory minimum is fucked, but do you really think any sensible person is going to put you in jail for 25 fucking years for making some drugs for yourself?
...actually, i can completely see that happening, RIP DEEMZ
Just imagine a bunch of gun toting rednecks and the prosecutor saying "DMT is a highly profitable illegal hippie drug similar to LSD that he has managed to manufacture with things at lowes. If realised he could release this mind altering hallucinogenic drug to our children"... Thies guys VS me
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This thread is so . People need to be more careful with such a sacred substance. If its not your time then you have all the time to wait, hyperspace isn't going anywhere.
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be smart and you wont get caught. dont do anything suspicious
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Exactly, just don't do anything suspicious and you won't get busted. unless you're black..then you might get shot in the face
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that's how I got away with getting high as a kite every day in high school. I brought paraphernalia to class many times and I never got caught. it's always the dumbasses who leave the building and walk over the hill that get busted. just never break two laws at once!
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XXfuzyxgamingXX said: do you really think you would get 25 years? i just cannot imagine that. the jury can refuse to find the defendant guilty, you know. sure, the mandatory minimum is fucked, but do you really think any sensible person is going to put you in jail for 25 fucking years for making some drugs for yourself?
...actually, i can completely see that happening, RIP DEEMZ
Just imagine a bunch of gun toting rednecks and the prosecutor saying "DMT is a highly profitable illegal hippie drug similar to LSD that he has managed to manufacture with things at lowes. If realised he could release this mind altering hallucinogenic drug to our children"... Thies guys VS me 
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