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LogicaL Chaos
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ha, nice.
I knew Obama was into DMT!
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natedawgnow
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MagicalOrangutan said: I thought you had to spend like 300 bucks for a kilo
Maybe for a kilo of powdered mhrb but not acacia. But even then it's more like 2 bills depending on your source. Also, maybe you are not reaching full breakthrough because of the high NMT content of acacia. Near 50 percent of your end product may be NMT which is not as psychoactive.
I have no problems breaking through no matter my method of ingestion. Just perfect a technique and dont deviate from it to the best of your capabilities.
Then again Ive only used mhrb which gives an end product of near 98% DMT to 2% NMT. At least i'm fairly sure that's the ratio. I'd look it up but i'm on my phone and dont want to hassle with it.
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For the people saying breakthrough is difficult... You seriously need to get your hands on some pure. harmalines. Can be bought online somewhere legally.
So much easier to breakthrough while on harmalas, way crazier trip, completely enveloping, on top of it your tolerance doesn't go way up while on harmalas you can literally smoke dmt back to back no problem.
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mushpunx
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Everything said: For the people saying breakthrough is difficult... You seriously need to get your hands on some pure. harmalines. Can be bought online somewhere legally.
So much easier to breakthrough while on harmalas, way crazier trip, completely enveloping, on top of it your tolerance doesn't go way up while on harmalas you can literally smoke dmt back to back no problem.
Is it really the harmaline that makes the biggest difference or is it more just having the spice infused into herbs to make smoking easier? Like changa w harmalas vs enhanced leaf without?
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I don't do change, sorry wanna answer that but no experience with changa.
I orally ingest my harmalas a half hour before smoking dmt.
Harmalas won't be as effective administered with the dmt, or smoked. I know that. But I bet they have an impact on the trip still.
You got to let the harmalines sit with you so the enzymes in your gut have time to be inhibited.
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thewanderer25
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Thats if you're buying a kilo you can get 100 grams for like 13 dollars and you can get 250 for like 25 dollars. 250 grams is like 4 or 5 grams of smokeable DMT after im done with it. (edit) sorry I was talking to the guy who asked if a key was 300 didn't reload this screen i've been hiking and its been on pause)
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thewanderer25
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Everything said: I don't do change, sorry wanna answer that but no experience with changa.
I orally ingest my harmalas a half hour before smoking dmt.
Harmalas won't be as effective administered with the dmt, or smoked. I know that. But I bet they have an impact on the trip still.
You got to let the harmalines sit with you so the enzymes in your gut have time to be inhibited.
When I did it that way with rue the trip felt so meaningful I felt it was trying to show me something that day. When you smoke the MAOIs its the same just longer in low doses its almost exactly like a strong mushroom trip but in high doses you breakthrough into a much more colored environment and that extra 5 minutes in a hyperspace is very a good thing. Idk changa great im just sick of trying to smoke DMT it shouldn't be hard it should just be well changa.
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Owlofthenight
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No way man your burning it if that happens... Never has a sandwich method gone wrong with me and others, unless the bong is shitty and un airtight or burning it too much.. But using one of those flamesizechanging lighters is easy. I even remember a dude that use to just smoke it ontop of the cone piece just crystals no sandwich and he was still managing to have strong trips.
And when lighting the bong you want the top sandwich (weed or whatever) quickly slightly light without too much heat for too long and breathing in slower than you would when your smoking weed.
Edited by Owlofthenight (08/03/15 12:03 AM)
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Owlofthenight
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Also someone told me that when they heated up the meth pipe bowl before loadin in the deemsters it produced an instant plum of clouds in the pipe as the crystals touched the glass, never have done this so I can't say
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voodoochild1000
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I'm a glass blower. ..if ya need sumthing made!....
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thewanderer25
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Omg PM me man classic DMT pipe man https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_info1.shtml If you can make the clasic one I would owe you for life it even says you need to find a glass blower to get one.
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Big Worm
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I've smoked DMT a bunch of times and finally found the best way.
And so many have said it before.
Make The Machine.
I've wasted so much DMT mixing it with weed and sandwiching it.
I never got to where I want to be using this method.
I just drilled a hole into the bottom of a single shot Jameson bottle. Stuffed Brillo in the neck. Put my Deem onto the brillo and gently hovered the lighter over it to melt it into the brillo.
Then just light the lighter in front of the neck and it vaporizes the DMT better than any other method I've ever tried.
I loaded 100mg as a tester and it blew my fucking head off.
Don't waste your time or DMT sandwichimg with weed.
Just make The Machine so your lungs can get a full hit of Deem and not filling up with smoke from other herb.
I wouldn't smoke it any other way.
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LogicaL Chaos
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voodoochild1000 said: I'm a glass blower. ..if ya need sumthing made!....
You should post some of your work in a thread. I wanna see your art
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Rebelutionsssss
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natedawgnow said: Molly and ecstasy are the fucking devil in drug form. I have seen so many people throw their lives down the toilet from eating too much molly. One friend even suffers from permanent brain damage due to prolonged use.
I have tried most street drugs and I turn down molly that is offered to me alll the time. I used to know this guy that sold and he'd sell some kid some molly, then right after the kid leaves he'd talk about how he has no idea if what he has is actually molly. Now that's just fucked up.
DMT, mushrooms, herb for the win all day long. Maybe a little cocaine every now and then 
MDMA is one of the most useful tools I've found in the psychedelic world. You're talking from experience of little 18 year olds who shove as much random powder into their mouth as they can just to catch a buzz. MDMA is really safe is used correctly, ALWAYS use a test kit, ALWAYS weigh out your product, ALWAYS keep hydrated and makes sure you practice safe MDMA use.
I'm sorry you've counted out this amazing substance but when you get pure MDMA taken with good friends it can be the closest bonding experiences you can have with other people.
Sorry a few careless junkies ruined it for you
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natedawgnow
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The same can be said of any drug used in moderation. The problem is that most people that use molly dont give a shit about moderation, as evident in other posts where people talk about shooting 3 grams a day.
Ive done my fair share and i can say i'm not a fan and i believe it to be more dangerous than you think
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Rebelutionsssss
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I've been using MDMA for 9 years safely and I have to say it's brought me some of the most amazing experience I've had. I have a good job, amazing family and friends, and a wonderful place to stay. The people you're talking about don't give a shit about anything but getting high. I use MDMA to bond with family and become a more loving person to the people I care about. I know hundreds of people that have used MDMA for years and years that all have great lives. It's the person, not the drug.
Please don't count out this lovely substance because a few people decided to abuse it to the point of destruction. That's like saying you'll count out all psychedelics because a few people you knew decided to eat 2000 hits and lost it.
Check out the MAPS studies on MDMA.
One love brother, and I hope you can find the beauty in the universe through whatever method works sorry about the few you knew that couldn't use it for what it was
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natedawgnow
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Actually some of the people I'm talking about were good friends with all the same aspects of life that you just described until they got addicted to molly.
You are talking about your personal experience just like I am talking about mine. MDMA has an addiction profile similar to if not greater than cocaine, and I have personally seen people who used it to enjoy life, like you say, quickly go downhill and use it because they need it to feel emotionally balanced 
I don't have an addictive personality, so I can't personally speak on this subject, just what I have seen from some close friends.
But like you said, to each their own. I have tried my fair share and I am just not sold.
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Rebelutionsssss
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I find it extremely hard to use MDMA as another addictive drug due to the fact that after rolling for 2 or 3 days there's little to no effect and x1000 more damage to your serotonin.
Sorry about your friends man. I just find it sad that such a beautiful amazing tool can be lost to egotistical junkies trying to get high off of anything and everything. The first thing you should think about when taking entheogens or other entactogens should be safety and how to keep the experience special 
Just out of curiosity what substances do you find your most joy in?
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MagicalOrangutan
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Well I did try so called mdma but I have no idea if it was actually methylone. It was crystal like shards sure, but I somehow doubt it was real mdma.
Anyways, what I've read online seems to suggest that shrooms or LSD or DMT can be more therapeutic for depression and more useful for emotional bonding than mdma.
As for just feeling good/getting a shallow self centered hedonistic euphoria..nothing I've tried comes close to GOOD cocaine. But to hell with cocaine.
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thewanderer25
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The first thing they think off is shit where can I score more. Addictions not funny im a pot addict when im around it but pot is the best stuff to be addicted to its cheap easy to find and 20 dollars can supply most heavy stoners with a day's worth of bud.
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