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terrible HBWR seeds experience
#21986263 - 07/23/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello. This is my second experience with HBWR seeds and both trips were terrible for me.
I put 10 HBWR seeds in a coffee grinder until they were fine powder, poured the powder in a drink and gulped it all down. It was pretty disgusting.
1hh - Began feeling nauseous, no recreational effects whatsoever. 2hh - Nausea kept increasing, still no recreational effects. 3hh - I forced myself to sleep so I wouldn't have to go through that nausea. 6hh - I woke up feeling stomach pain and extreme nausea, felt like I was going to puke at any second. I rolled around in bed with a stuffy nose and watery eyes for the next hour. 8hh - Unexpectedly puked 6 times in a row. Most of the nausea went away for a little bit then came back. 9hh+ - Mild nausea for the next 4-5 hours. Stuffy nose, leg pain, etc. I went to sleep again and woke up the next morning feeling normal.
I am never taking HBWR seeds again.
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AroundtheSon
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: Inventive]
#21986272 - 07/23/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Did you strip the outer husky coating?
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Inventive
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: AroundtheSon]
#21986296 - 07/23/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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AroundtheSon said: Did you strip the outer husky coating?
No, I did some research and heard that it doesn't make much of a difference because the seeds themselves also contain poisons.
Either way, I felt 0 recreational effects. I chewed on 8 seeds for 45 minutes on my first trip and spit them out. Same experience, just milder.
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AroundtheSon
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: Inventive]
#21986302 - 07/23/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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live and learn. they ain't my thing either.
hope you have a better time next journey (different)
Edited by AroundtheSon (07/23/15 05:29 PM)
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Psilosopherr
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: AroundtheSon]
#21986359 - 07/23/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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extractions my dear boy
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AroundtheSon
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21986369 - 07/23/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: AroundtheSon]
#21986541 - 07/23/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The body load was enough to keep me from ever trying LSA, this just helped me feel more confident in my decision. Thanks for the report.
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JacobStorm
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Are you sure they were untreated? meaning there is not chemicals sprayed on it? Second, are you sure they were real HBWR? A lot of vendors sell fake look a-likes that just hurt you instead of tripping. I've experienced both.
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: JacobStorm]
#21986936 - 07/23/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not sure if they were sprayed or not. How do I tell? I'm pretty sure they were the real seeds (they seem impossible to crush without a hammer, very strong seeds and look like they do on Google) Although, the 'outer white' layer everyone talks about seems to be gone (there's some kind of shell around the entire seed which takes like a second to get off with a knife) is that the layer?
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: Inventive]
#21988736 - 07/24/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The seeds itself are either dark red, brown or black, smooth / plain on the outside and very very hard. The outer coating is much brighter, fibrous and fuzzy..
I remove the outer coating by making the seeds wet (put them in hot water for a minute), then I put the seeds (a few hundreds of them) into a towel and rub the hell out of them. After a few minutes the coating is all gone.
Ground seeds I use to strain a lot to get only the very fine powder from the heart of the seeds, means I get gid of the hard dark shell-pieces.
I never had to puke from HBWR seeds, but nausea is always present. I once drank a CWE of 15 seeds and swallowed 8 more in capsuls. I tripped for days with intens visuals lasting 48 hours, but had a few seizures and hard vasoconstriction what made the experience rather unpleseant overall.
You can find untreated HBWR seeds in masses on the internet. I once bought a thousand of them for just twenty bucks.
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: Inventive]
#21990533 - 07/24/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The vendor should proudly display that their "untreated" or "organic" HBWR.
IT should also say it on the package.
Did you dose those seeds?
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: JacobStorm]
#21991316 - 07/24/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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JacobStorm said: The vendor should proudly display that their "untreated" or "organic" HBWR.
IT should also say it on the package.
Did you dose those seeds?
Yes, the vendor advertises them as organic and the reviews say they are completely organic too without spraying. I'm almost 100% sure that these seeds are the real thing. Just a bad trip I guess.
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: Inventive]
#21991554 - 07/24/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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DId you trip at all?
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: JacobStorm]
#21991676 - 07/24/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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JacobStorm said: DId you trip at all?
I think so. I remember being sort of dreamy, but it was barely noticeable with the nausea overshadowing it.
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JacobStorm
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: Inventive]
#21992354 - 07/24/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's a bummer man. I wouldn't forsake LSA just yet. It sounds like my first experience which I later learned the were in fact NOT HBWR. 10 Seeds should have sent you FLYING! Especially if they were fresh. I'd find a different vendor and do some research between fakes and the real ones.
Also Look into Cold Water Extractions CWE, It helps with the nausea a bit. I take a double dose of Peptmo Bismal before I eat HBWR or Morning Glorys and it seems to work out just fine (no throwing up or bad stomach aches) A bit of lemon/lime juice in your CWE would also help you a bit.
For what its worth...
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: JacobStorm]
#22008252 - 07/28/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't understand why you put yourself through this a second time. If the seeds were from the same vendor, and you used the same ingestion method, what made you think the experience was going to be any different?
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Re: terrible HBWR seeds experience [Re: TBJ12]
#22008532 - 07/28/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LSA is pretty hit and miss IME. sometimes doing the same thing twice will get better results. I theorize this is caused by inconsistent alkaloid content of seeds.
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