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voodoochild1000
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Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. ..
#21986064 - 07/23/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've done half a dozen trips at the 7.5 gram dosage. Have been eating off the same batch and most others trip pretty hard on 3.5 and my girl had straight ego death and lost it on 3.5. I believe they're moderate strength. I have always been the guy taking the larger dose. I just always wanted to have the ultimate peak experience everytime I Trip....
.... I feel like I'm prepared to go a little farther with the shrooms and am considering going up in 1.5 Gram increments to 14 grams....
I feel like I want to go as far as I can!? But I'm also someone that cares about their health and future and the people around me that I care about. I don't want to hurt myself or others but am mystified by the psychedelic experience and it's incomprehensible themes and ideas!
I want to b a psychonautic explorer. ..I want to visit these places..
I just want to proceed with caution....
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
Edited by voodoochild1000 (07/24/15 11:26 AM)
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
#21986108 - 07/23/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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voodoochild1000 said:
I just want to proceed with caution....
Then I would do just that. I've never seen anyone eat over 10 grams, and we all had to watch her very closely. She was in and out of it. in laughter and crying. Good luck man.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: JacobStorm]
#21986152 - 07/23/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is this guy.... http://mckennaforum.com/guy-takes-30-gram-mushrooms/
nevermid...the link doesn't work anymore...I'll try to find a new one....This is a tribal guy that goes way beyond what I would feel anwhere comfortable.
-------------------- Look Deep Into Nature,and Then You Will Understand Everything Better. Albert Einstein
Edited by Thayendanegea (07/23/15 05:01 PM)
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: JacobStorm]
#21986160 - 07/23/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I eat 14+ on the regular, done a whole oz once and still havent gotten to where i want to go.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Thayendanegea]
#21986168 - 07/23/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This guy eats a full Amanita muscaria Fly Agaric
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Cujllickduo]
#21986176 - 07/23/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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-------------------- Rogger Rabbits Mushroom growing videos Ethnobotanical garden forum Inocuole tea TEK azur said: If you like 6th grade results, then 6th grade projects are great.
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voodoochild1000
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Thayendanegea]
#21986193 - 07/23/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mt fear is total blackout and then act nuts...as everybody I'm shure....but 8m starting to get out there....on theses shrooms I'm in control somewhat still....other types?..idk....been eating off same batch...got 7g of sum oher type from friend...said they were thai...should probably try them.....
....do I need a strong tripsitter?lol...kinda.... Quote:
Thayendanegea said: There is this guy.... http://mckennaforum.com/guy-takes-30-gram-mushrooms/
nevermid...the link doesn't work anymore...I'll try to find a new one....This is a tribal guy that goes way beyond what I would feel anwhere comfortable.
The Black dude?....that's awesome stuff
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: neowulf] 1
#21986195 - 07/23/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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neowulf said: I eat 14+ on the regular, done a whole oz once and still havent gotten to where i want to go.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21986231 - 07/23/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://www.lycaeum.org/leda/Trips/Magic_Mushrooms_Desert_High_-_A_40_Gram_Mushroom_Trip.16442.shtml
Here's a 40 gram report....yes...the other report was about a black shaman...I wish I could bring it up...there was a thread a couple years ago about it.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: neowulf]
#21986240 - 07/23/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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neowulf said: I eat 14+ on the regular, done a whole oz once and still havent gotten to where i want to go.
Wow really. That's a pretty extreme statement
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21986256 - 07/23/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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JacobStorm said: THought you'd like this
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18795824
.....I want sum..... Quote:
Bill_Oreilly said:
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neowulf said: I eat 14+ on the regular, done a whole oz once and still havent gotten to where i want to go.
.....ever get hurt?....like black out and go crazy....fall...cops....I mean...like......what's the protocol?
I feel like u need to b way out of civilization. ..but I worry a little about emergency situation....but home freak out could b cops....
....I'm I being redundant?....
....I take this seriously....
.....The answer probably is....
....who fucking knows!do it...gnosis!
.....so.....protocols?
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: JacobStorm] 1
#21986264 - 07/23/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I took a dose somewhere around 10 grams once. I was actually able to hold conversation decently well. Must not have been that potent, but there were effects that were intense in their own way.
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voodoochild1000
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
#21986267 - 07/23/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I shure fucked up that last quote
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
#21986299 - 07/23/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I regularly take 5 to 7 grams and honestly that only puts me at a solid +3 or so. I am with you on trying a higher dose. I seem to have a strong natural tolerance to them. My wife can get wrecked on 3.5 whereas that only gets me "trippy high". I say go for it. Its a good idea to do huge doses with a sitter in a very safe/remote location. Dont trip 15g's in the trap house, you're gonna get freaked out.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000] 1
#21986326 - 07/23/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nope never gotten hurt blacked out cops etc etc in fact all my friends will tell ya they cant even tell im tripping outside of the random laughing............ ive always chalked it up to natural tolerance. I wont trip on anything less then 7g even when i started. Ive always assumed its because of my ADHD and its tendency to change how chemicals affect my body. For me i usually have an opposite effect for what im taking.... Speed puts me to sleep, downers keep me up. I dont want to have to eat so much would be nice for a harvest to last more then a few trips lol. My method of ingestion is powdered into gelcaps. It makes it alot easier on the tummy.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
#21986335 - 07/23/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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When i say regularly i mean like a trip every two to four weeks for a period of a couple months then i break for a while.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Thayendanegea]
#21986355 - 07/23/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thayendanegea said: http://www.lycaeum.org/leda/Trips/Magic_Mushrooms_Desert_High_-_A_40_Gram_Mushroom_Trip.16442.shtml
Here's a 40 gram report....yes...the other report was about a black shaman...I wish I could bring it up...there was a thread a couple years ago about it.
Thank you very much for sharing that. That was hands down the best/craziest trip repot ive ever read. Fuckiing shocking.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Cujllickduo]
#21986376 - 07/23/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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JustAnotherFreak said: This guy eats a full Amanita muscaria Fly Agaric
.....GAWD
.... somebody posted on Facebook with a bunch of them growing all over their yard yesterday! I'm not sure about that stuff tho cuz I'm pretty unsure about dissociative things! Although I had a ketamine phase where we were going pretty f****** hard with that s*** which I guess is a dissociative as well? Maybe I do like that lol! But those datura stories R pretty heavy! :-)
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Thayendanegea]
#21986493 - 07/23/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thayendanegea said: http://www.lycaeum.org/leda/Trips/Magic_Mushrooms_Desert_High_-_A_40_Gram_Mushroom_Trip.16442.shtml
Here's a 40 gram report....yes...the other report was about a black shaman...I wish I could bring it up...there was a thread a couple years ago about it.
.....holy shit!....that's a FUCKING trip!!.....kinda what I'm worried about ....needed a trip sitter. ...he almost froze!.... I want to have a trip like that but don't want to f*** myself up like he did at least somebody to follow you around and throw a blanket over you or something :-)!
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
#21986514 - 07/23/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for THE LOVE!
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
#21986559 - 07/23/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everybody please stop comparing Amanitas with Datura!
Besides beeing labled as dissociative they have absolutly nothing in common.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
#21986698 - 07/23/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have taken massive doses before. Shrooms are wildly unpredictable. I've only had weak shrooms a few times. IME 3 grams can be an intense, powerful experience. If you're taking doses that high you're rolling the cosmic dice. sometime you may end up with snake eyes, begging for mercy. I've seen it happen a bunch of times.
I hope you only ever visit candy mountain
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Love_spirit]
#21986737 - 07/23/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The bodyhigh usually gets too uncomfortable on >10g that if you are not gone before the trip is in full gear, there is a risk that you will feel this uncomfortable and overpowering bodyhigh and that it affects you in so many ways. Especially if you have not relaxed yourself beforehand. Personally my personality shatters and I become so confused that I fear for my life.
But it is still worth it.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: qweqaz]
#21986770 - 07/23/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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My highest dose wasn't my strongest trip. Unless you're taking doses from a known isolate the % of actives is pretty varying.
Only way to know how its gonna be is eat em and find out
-------------------- The mushroom speaks: '"I am old, older than thought in your species, which is itself fifty times older than your history. Though I have been on earth for ages I am from the stars. My home is no one planet, for many worlds scattered through the shining disc of the galaxy have conditions which allow my spores an opportunity for life... How the hypercommunication mode operates is a secret which will not be lightly given to man. But the means should be obvious: it is the occurrence of psilocybin and psilocin in the biosynthetic pathways of my living body that opens for me and my symbiots the vision screens to many worlds"
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Pandemoon]
#21987839 - 07/23/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: Everybody please stop comparing Amanitas with Datura!
Besides beeing labled as dissociative they have absolutly nothing in common.
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....fair enough....but they don't contain type amine right?....I am not an expert for shure...would luv sum info...thanks!
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Love_spirit]
#21987883 - 07/23/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Love_spirit said: I have taken massive doses before. Shrooms are wildly unpredictable. I've only had weak shrooms a few times. IME 3 grams can be an intense, powerful experience. If you're taking doses that high you're rolling the cosmic dice. sometime you may end up with snake eyes, begging for mercy. I've seen it happen a bunch of times.
I hope you only ever visit candy mountain 
.... there is nothing to fear but fear itself.......
But dammit... I'm fearful of fear. Lol :-)
... the whole I think I'm going to die thing... and you actually believe you are dying.
....yikes!
..... I never like to say things like I can handle my s***. I have a deep respect for the mushroom and that's why so gets very hard on intent up front to be at peace with the mushroom and to pray to the mushroom for its guidance and let them know that I accept whatever he gives unto me! I humble myself before the mushroom every single time and I pray for it's blessings. I've been tripping every two weeks since November and have had nothing but the most amazing experiences! Light and love to the maximum!
..... I'm also interested in cactus, DMT, toad, and I have a little bit of some good L that I'll probably get to.
... but right now I'm working with mushrooms and I really want to see where I can go with them. Anyways, I guess the only thing left to do is actually up my dose and report back....
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: qweqaz]
#21987892 - 07/24/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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qweqaz said: The bodyhigh usually gets too uncomfortable on >10g that if you are not gone before the trip is in full gear, there is a risk that you will feel this uncomfortable and overpowering bodyhigh and that it affects you in so many ways. Especially if you have not relaxed yourself beforehand. Personally my personality shatters and I become so confused that I fear for my life.
But it is still worth it.
.... I'm willing to take my chances but my main concern is hurting myself or others or getting in trouble! Can a trip sitter actually do anything in those situations?
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-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Thayendanegea]
#21988808 - 07/24/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thayendanegea said: There is this guy.... http://mckennaforum.com/guy-takes-30-gram-mushrooms/
nevermid...the link doesn't work anymore...I'll try to find a new one....This is a tribal guy that goes way beyond what I would feel anwhere comfortable.
..found it...... .
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
#21988817 - 07/24/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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... the whole I think I'm going to die thing... and you actually believe you are dying.
What's actually happening on your trips at the moment?
I can't compare doses easily because I trip on sclerotia instead of shrooms, but there does seem to be a threshold where the trip crosses the border and feels like a "big reveal" of something incredible.
I think the dying thing is part of it.....like the trip is getting to a point where your consciousness fragments and reassembles, as though you have to die within the trip, and everything beyond that is tinged with the feeling that you are witnessing secrets from the other side, the CEV become alien structures in some kind of netherworld, everything combines into one massive revelation that leaves you dumbstruck.
So... if you're pushing the dosage up gradually I think there's scope to trance out (rather than blackout completely) and come back in a kind of delusional mania where you *think* nuts but you are lucid enough to control your actions and still feel like yourself...as though you've 'woken up' to the truth of it all.

I find with pushing the dose that the trips eventually end up with me convinced I am God, so I prefer to dose slightly less than this...mad but not completely mad. Possibly if I took even more, this is where I'd get naked and start running down the street shouting about Jesus....so I don't really want to push the dose higher than that. I've had one or two trips that felt stronger, but they became more like a kind of fever dream where I just had to lie there drifting in and out of consciousness, like tripping within my nightmares.
There's a lot of fear about "going insane" and "dying" on a trip.....but I think there is a kind of sweet spot where you are fairly insane and half-convinced that you died, filled with awe, and the trip settles into a kind of mania and euphoria that gradually fades, becoming less revelatory and more fun towards the end as the delusions unwind. It feels a bit like surviving the apocalypse ....without getting out of bed.
I suppose the natural tendency is to keep increasing the dose until you get an experience which leaves you thinking "if you have anything stronger.....keep it away from me". The sheer harshness of some of these trips during the comeup is kind of self-regulating; sometimes I prefer a strong trip which gets close to the edge but doesn't go over it. Awe tinged with fear and respect...
-------------------- I wrote that, but I meant something else
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Aldebaran]
#21988953 - 07/24/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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... the whole I think I'm going to die thing... and you actually believe you are dying.
What's actually happening on your trips at the moment?
I can't compare doses easily because I trip on sclerotia instead of shrooms, but there does seem to be a threshold where the trip crosses the border and feels like a "big reveal" of something incredible.
I think the dying thing is part of it.....like the trip is getting to a point where your consciousness fragments and reassembles, as though you have to die within the trip, and everything beyond that is tinged with the feeling that you are witnessing secrets from the other side, the CEV become alien structures in some kind of netherworld, everything combines into one massive revelation that leaves you dumbstruck.
So... if you're pushing the dosage up gradually I think there's scope to trance out (rather than blackout completely) and come back in a kind of delusional mania where you *think* nuts but you are lucid enough to control your actions and still feel like yourself...as though you've 'woken up' to the truth of it all.

I find with pushing the dose that the trips eventually end up with me convinced I am God, so I prefer to dose slightly less than this...mad but not completely mad. Possibly if I took even more, this is where I'd get naked and start running down the street shouting about Jesus....so I don't really want to push the dose higher than that. I've had one or two trips that felt stronger, but they became more like a kind of fever dream where I just had to lie there drifting in and out of consciousness, like tripping within my nightmares.
There's a lot of fear about "going insane" and "dying" on a trip.....but I think there is a kind of sweet spot where you are fairly insane and half-convinced that you died, filled with awe, and the trip settles into a kind of mania and euphoria that gradually fades, becoming less revelatory and more fun towards the end as the delusions unwind. It feels a bit like surviving the apocalypse ....without getting out of bed.
I suppose the natural tendency is to keep increasing the dose until you get an experience which leaves you thinking "if you have anything stronger.....keep it away from me". The sheer harshness of some of these trips during the comeup is kind of self-regulating; sometimes I prefer a strong trip which gets close to the edge but doesn't go over it. Awe tinged with fear and respect...

Awesome bro! You hit it right on the head! I want to go as far as I possibly can but just short of some terrorizing fear type scenario.
... I'm trying to find the sweet spot you speak of. Currently I've been tripping out the 7.5 gram level , it can be a little intense but usually fall right into That amazing uphoria zone! I like to crank the music and dance and misty mountain hop excetra!
... my girlfriend eat an 8th with me at Mount Saint Helens a few weeks ago and completely freaked out and passed out. She was having one of those experiences where she literally felt like she was dying! Humbly I haven't had to experience that but it does not look pleasurable!
... she still gets kinda teary when you bring up the trip! :-) she said she'd never do shrooms again but said she was going to take some with her friend at a concert in a couple weeks so I guess she's beginning to integrate it somewhere :-)! I pushed her too far but I hope she can come back to a lower dose and enjoy mushrooms fully again!
.... I long to visit these far away places of the mind! I've had some amazing trips but not quite the breakthrough that I read about a lot. I feel like I've been in training and preparing to go up and I've been diligent and humble and respect the shroom deeply. I am very involved in planning my trip so that set and setting is as good as possible!
... I'm wondering if I need to go way out in the wilderness to do higher doses? At least then if I strip down naked and run around I'm not going to have to deal with cops excetera.... I swear that's my biggest fear! Freaking out to the point that the cops get called and have to round me up! I'm willing to take my own chances on having a bad or scary trip but the cops f*** that s***! Probably my biggest concern.
Cuz I'm willing to go out there like that! I've had some amazing experiences but feel as though I'm at the threshold and need to pass through the gates!
... I'm wondering if I'm subconsciously distracting myself by music and dancing etc. I feel like I need to lay down and really focus on my trip a little more! Focus. Some suggest tripping without music but I love it so much! I personally feel like it makes the trip! Trip solo?.... I hardly ever do that I always trip with a friend or a small group! I've been showing guidance to some younger guys and helping them become more psychonautic. .... but going to have to do a solo sometime in the very near future! :-)
....thanks so much for feedback!
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
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If you do this i wish you luck and send my love.
I however would recommend a shorter acting chem for intense trips like this such as DPT or DMT.
Anyway good luck and have a sitter capable of physically restraining you......shrooms can get crazier than any other psche ive done.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
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qweqaz said: The bodyhigh usually gets too uncomfortable on >10g that if you are not gone before the trip is in full gear, there is a risk that you will feel this uncomfortable and overpowering bodyhigh and that it affects you in so many ways. Especially if you have not relaxed yourself beforehand. Personally my personality shatters and I become so confused that I fear for my life.
But it is still worth it.
.... I'm willing to take my chances but my main concern is hurting myself or others or getting in trouble! Can a trip sitter actually do anything in those situations?
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If you have someone there that you trust totally, that are just there to make sure you are protected from yourself and others is really a good thing.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: qweqaz]
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I sort of skimmed replies but here is my exp: first time I tripped with a friend, we grew our own stuff, didn't know how to dose, and split it 50/50 fresh (it was probably 1/2 oz dry each because it was a smaller mono tub). The experience threw me beyond my wildest realities. I was gone in so many places and times, shapes and forms. Energy from music resonated back to the lives of their creators, and everything was beautiful.when the trip got bad I feared for my life but still learned and loved it.
My next few trips I did 3.5g like I'm supposed to, spaced a month or so apart. I just felt weird or crazy anxious and just didn't feel right with the peeps I was around. Then I had a bad exp on a really high dose, but later on I realized I only like my trips when they are to the extreme. So imo, more is better but it's good to be cautious. I haven't done anything in a little bit, but if you go without fear, and instead excitement, you are in for a helluva good time!
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
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I want to go as far as I possibly can but just short of some terrorizing fear type scenario.
Awe and fear are closely linked...so I'm not sure if you can expect to be immune to feelings of fear at higher doses. But don't be afraid of "the fear" - it's a sign of a quality trip! The intensity can get very uncomfortable - it's that feeling of wrongness, that you've gone too far and took too much, where the trip becomes hostile and remorseless, and a feeling of doom sets in. This feeling of "too much, make it stop" is a good sign that you are on track for something epic - it's the feeling of the gates opening... 
The intensity combined with the body load can sometimes turn into panic and make you feel like you are dying...but the panic burns itself out, and you start to accept your own death. The trip no longer feels like "just a drug", it's become something deeper and darker.....and you start to wonder what's down there because you are going to have to face it. You can feel something is there, something is about to happen.

The trick is to be able to realize that all of this is OK, that the this-plane-is-going-to-crash vibe is normal. Try and laugh at your situation. You are very close to the point where the trip is going to turn around and suddenly become very revelatory and euphoric. If the trip seems very dark it helps to think of it as if you are in some kind of theme park ride...it's scary but it's supposed to be like that....its a kind of facade that will pull back to reveal something awesome and beautiful. You need to embrace that darkness and recognize that it's just part of your own mind.
Even if you feel like you're dying or being annihilated or whatever, there's a kind of liberating feeling that gradually comes over you that your consciousness will continue in one form or another, you will just wait it out....you might fade out for a while but then you are suddenly back and you feel like yourself again...like something incredible has happened.
The ferocity of the onset now feels like it was an epic journey, some elaborate quest or whatever that gets woven into some crazy delusional framework.....but you feel like you've woken up to the true reality and everything is wonderful.
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I'm wondering if I need to go way out in the wilderness to do higher doses?
I suppose it depends on what kind of wilderness....if its safe to wander off into without getting lost, cold, dehydrated, falling into or off something, cutting yourself on a rock...(seems to feature in various trip reports for some reason).
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I swear that's my biggest fear! Freaking out to the point that the cops get called
There's no guarantees, but a lot of these scenarios seem to be down to inexperience or poor settings. If I trip, I just treat it as a commitment to stay in one place no matter what - no wandering off to spread my "mystical insights" with the general population - if it's that important, write it down, if you need to tell somebody, wait until tomorrow.
If I feel like I'm dying, or generally freaking out inside, I just sit there and await my fate (panic wears off and I start to feel silly). It's quite difficult to "hold your shit together" within your mind but you don't need to....you just need to sit still and do nothing. It can help if you have minimal interaction with anybody else...maybe just a sitter who is experienced enough not to take you seriously if you tell them you are dying. The old advice of "wait six hours then call an ambulance" is about right 
The odd thing about shrooms is that you can go fairly insane within your trip, but still remain lucid for most of it....I'm mostly tripping in hotel rooms in Holland, I don't find it difficult to stay quiet.

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I'm wondering if I'm subconsciously distracting myself by music and dancing etc.
I always trip with a music playlist on headphones, I try to make it so it complements the different phases of the trip. It can feel like a bit of a lifeline too - all I need to do is listen to the end of the playlist - how hard can that be 
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I've had some amazing experiences but feel as though I'm at the threshold and need to pass through the gates!
It's not necessarily very far from where you are now....a shroom trip is a shroom trip, it's just that on some of them you feel like you went down a rabbit hole into some crazy story that barely makes any sense afterwards, an experience that feels incredibly powerful or even supernatural as you go through it.
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I've had some amazing trips but not quite the breakthrough that I read about a lot.
It's a kind of "breakthrough" in a way, but i find it's more of a mystical headtrip on shrooms than some fancy visual thing.....the trip seems to manifest itself fairly abstractly, you read layers of meaning into abstract CEV for example, it's more in-your-mind-visionary than in-your-face-visual. The room is still there in front of you, even if you are drifting off somewhere else in your mind. The visuals can become very strong, but you get so wrapped up in the headtrip that you may not notice them during the peak, or they start to seem normal.
**** A bit of a rambling post...my general message is.... do be sensible and cautious, don't underestimate the intensity, but remember that even if you find yourself in some horrific meat grinder of a trip, just ride with it.
It's "the storm before the calm" and YES, IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THAT. If you can relax your grip on reality and sink into the rhythms of the trip, you will find a kind of equilibrium in there, and sooner or later you will feel like you have merged with the trip and it no longer frightens you...it is you.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Aldebaran]
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mushrooms are a mysterious drug
I've had 6-7 gram trips that really didn't do too much at all
and i've had trips like 1.7 grams one time that literally had my entire outside reality looking like an LSD trip with the immensely vivid colors and rotational geometric patterns and shit
I've waited 10 days between trips and only felt noticeable effects and i've waited not even 48 hours and pushed straight into near level 4 off the same exact dose
I don't know what to tell ya
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: cube talk]
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I know what your talking about. IME with mushrooms less is always more.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: lood_dood]
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lood_dood said: I sort of skimmed replies but here is my exp: first time I tripped with a friend, we grew our own stuff, didn't know how to dose, and split it 50/50 fresh (it was probably 1/2 oz dry each because it was a smaller mono tub). The experience threw me beyond my wildest realities. I was gone in so many places and times, shapes and forms. Energy from music resonated back to the lives of their creators, and everything was beautiful.when the trip got bad I feared for my life but still learned and loved it.
My next few trips I did 3.5g like I'm supposed to, spaced a month or so apart. I just felt weird or crazy anxious and just didn't feel right with the peeps I was around. Then I had a bad exp on a really high dose, but later on I realized I only like my trips when they are to the extreme. So imo, more is better but it's good to be cautious. I haven't done anything in a little bit, but if you go without fear, and instead excitement, you are in for a helluva good time!
Excitement. ....not fear....
...I give myself to the mushroom and trust it's message. ...
...It's given me all love and wisdom at 7-8g range
....I am humble and open to the mystery...
......at least I think....
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
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If you're taking sensible steps up in dosage I'm sure you'll be fine, you can judge for yourself what dose level you feel comfortable at.
It's when you get trips that are uncomfortable, but they are intriguing enough to make you want to explore a bit further on the next one... thats when you might end up in something that feels unpleasant or overwhelming, at least initially.
The tricky thing with these high dose trips is that I know they will work out OK and I'll really enjoy it once I'm reaching the peak, it's just the knowledge that the onset can be challenging. It's something familiar but daunting....
A little bit of fear adds to the excitement anyway, it can make the trip seem very thrilling and mysterious In a funny way I think the sheer intensity of the onset, as the trip builds, is sometimes the best part of the whole experience, scarily enjoyable....
Have fun, I hope you reach the type of experience you are seeking!
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Aldebaran]
#21995953 - 07/25/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you do, do this please report back. I'm super curious how this works for you.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Aldebaran]
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Thanks for all the kind words....
... will be going to the 9 to 9.5 range in the next 2 to 4 weeks.
....then 11....then 12.5....
I hear what you're saying about the too much thing! Too much make it stop!
I've had just felt that that a couple times but then my mind says f*** no! I love mush! it's all good! Breathe and ride it out!
For me it's like a river! The full force of it will drown you..
When it gets really intense I usually Go closed eyed and focus on my breathing! I try to break apart the flow of energy and divert it out...
.... I always hold to the thought..." I chose to take something and this is the experience I chose. And also there is no way I can overdose so relax! You took something and that's why you feel this way. Stay calm...breathe.....
Probably going to do a focused solo trip at the 7.5 level and then move up... so probably about 3 weeks from now....
The Enigma continues.....
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22002438 - 07/26/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hm.
Op I've been tripping for 17 years now. I've seen many a person on heroic doses because "they wanna see how far the hole goes". I'll tell you for most people its not enjoyable and has very real possibility to be dangerous or deadly. Even with experienced trip sitters.
The biggest issue with mushrooms especially multispore grown is its roulette every time active content varies mushroom to mushroom. If you take a 9+ gram trip and they happen to be ass kickers it may be biting off much more than you can chew.
Plus there's the whole high dose black out issue which also isn't fun.
Psychedelics aren't toys. They can take you to heaven or drag you to hell.
Be careful man. Definitely have multiple sober sitters and figure out what your intention really is for wanting to do such risky behaviors.
I'm my own personal experience and many vets before......those that skirt the edge and are lucky enough not to fall over generally have no interest in going back again.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Rewindicus]
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I'll give a personal story.
I took 9.5g one night it was incredible. Bursts of color everywhere like fireworks in my living room colors not even on the spectrum it was so beautiful I was weeping.
I thought about an upcoming biology exam. And then I "realized" I don't need to study. I created the world. I was god. And thus created science. No need to study! No need to hang out in this mortal body anymore either! I was bored watching this planet go to the dumps. My creatures the humans I made in my image were a disappointment and I was ready to wipe this world out and start fresh!
I got up and walked into the kitchen an put my hand on the butcher block. I was going to slit my throat so I could leave this body and start a new world. (This all while on 9.5g made perfect and true sense to me!) Luckily I had a moment or lucidity and was like WTF!!!!!?????????
Put the butcher block under the sink an ran to my room an stayed there till come down. That could have been catastrophic. And what for? So I could see how big a dose I could take?
Not worth it man. I was lucky. Many aren't. Hell just look through the news feed if you wanna see the horrible things that can happen when people lose their shit on psychs.
Be careful.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Rewindicus]
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Rewindicus said: I'll give a personal story.
I took 9.5g one night it was incredible. Bursts of color everywhere like fireworks in my living room colors not even on the spectrum it was so beautiful I was weeping.
I thought about an upcoming biology exam. And then I "realized" I don't need to study. I created the world. I was god. And thus created science. No need to study! No need to hang out in this mortal body anymore either! I was bored watching this planet go to the dumps. My creatures the humans I made in my image were a disappointment and I was ready to wipe this world out and start fresh!
I got up and walked into the kitchen an put my hand on the butcher block. I was going to slit my throat so I could leave this body and start a new world. (This all while on 9.5g made perfect and true sense to me!) Luckily I had a moment or lucidity and was like WTF!!!!!?????????
Put the butcher block under the sink an ran to my room an stayed there till come down. That could have been catastrophic. And what for? So I could see how big a dose I could take?
Not worth it man. I was lucky. Many aren't. Hell just look through the news feed if you wanna see the horrible things that can happen when people lose their shit on psychs.
Be careful.
....holy shit...... those are the things that I read about and cause me some concern and a little bit of worry! Thankfully I haven't experienced these feelings but I understand how people can begin to feel this way!
Let me rephrase that, I don't understand at all and probably never could! Believe me I have thought about the fact that at a certain point you might just become completely delusional! I haven't reached that point but believe me I know its a possibility!
... I believe that my deepest intent surrounds the idea that psychedelics could potentially be a gateway to the multiverse .... I feel like psychedelics and mushrooms especially could hold the key to saving humanity! I simply want to do my part and the pioneering exploration of the substances!
I pray to the mushroom and ask for its blessings and give myself onto the power!
.... honestly? I would like to have an experience like the guy who ate 40 grams and that trip report earlier in this thread! I mean I don't know if I could actually work up to that large of a dose? But the experience that he reported is what I would like to try to tap into!
... that sounds totally crazy I know! But that experience?! My god!
..... but I need to come back and I need to integrate these things into my earthly body and consciousness!
....the Enigma of it all!!
..... I very much appreciate the feedback and suggestions for safety!hide the knifes!
....seriously. ....
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
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I love this conversation! !!
.....thanks everyone!
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
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Well if you want to experience the extremes of psychedelics I mean.... Have you tried dmt? Or 5meo-dmt?
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: Rewindicus]
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Rewindicus said: Well if you want to experience the extremes of psychedelics I mean.... Have you tried dmt? Or 5meo-dmt?
I smoked it a couple times in my twenties but never had my own stash so was never in a position to really have a breakthrough! I have been waiting for it to come to me for almost a year and havent come across it yet! I think it's time for some mimosa!
.... I very much would like to have a nice stash of DMT so I could experiment fully!.....a little confused on meo dmt.....is that oral dmt?.... that sounds absolutely amazing! Fumerate?...right?......eat in capsules?
..... I wish I had access right now! I want to have that experience very very much!
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: neowulf]
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neowulf said: I eat 14+ on the regular, done a whole oz once and still havent gotten to where i want to go.
Of course you haven't. It's not your show. The mushrooms run the show. They take you where they want you to go. Not the other way around.
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Re: Beyond 8 grams.....uncharted territory. .. [Re: voodoochild1000]
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TOOLS NOT TOYS.....ALLWAYS....RESPECT GIVIN!
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