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InvisibleKurt
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Philosophy and Disparity
    #21985774 - 07/23/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Supposing truth is a woman—what then? Are there not grounds for the suspicion that all philosophers, insofar as they were dogmatists, have been very inexpert about women? that the gruesome seriousness, the clumsy obtrusiveness with which they have usually approached truth so far have been awkward and very improper methods for winning a woman's heart?




I would not stand by most of what Nietzsche said about women, but he was pretty insightful about philosophy.

Masculine and feminine forms could seem to play into philosophy, and are interesting to look to in its terminology. This is beyond romanticism, I'd say. The ideals are often feminine:

Philia (Greek; Love) sophia (Greek; wisdom); as guided by truth in the sense of Aletheia (greek; unconcealing), and Veritas (Latin; confirmation)...

These ideals of philosophers could perhaps be contrasted to approaches philosophers assume, which are often presupposed to possibly contain truth, and are often masculine. The broaching of stodgy empiricism or empeirikos, (Greek; "in trial"), or the overtechnical and touchy rationality or ratio (latin; "reason")  would be mentionable...not that they are without their nobility, too.

I am not sure what there is to any of this. If in our pursuits, like Thales of Miletus, we stumble into a well, and find ourselves most of all contained, let's hope to hear the laughter of a Thracian maid to...and that it is not of spite...

Take the images, anecdotes, and word play, or any semblance of logic here or leave it. Why this disparity in philosophy?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calumny_of_Apelles_(Botticelli)


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Re: Philosophy and Disparity [Re: Kurt] * 1
    #21986038 - 07/23/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well I think the truth is inherently a question mark, just as a woman is.  However, I think the truth can be known.


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Re: Philosophy and Disparity [Re: Kurt]
    #21987887 - 07/23/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Here is the famous quote of Tertullian (himself condemned as a Montanist heretic), "What hath Athens to do with Jerusalem?" Apelles  is mentioned under OTHER POINTS OF INTEREST in this article: http://www.tertullian.org/works/de_praescriptione_haereticorum.ht; I  do not pit Christian against Pagan or heretic (as Tertullian, creator of the word 'Trinity' was a Christian, but declared a heretic, thus he was both), but rather, I'd like to select out the specifically Christian term for Love, namely, Agapé, which is alone used in the untitled manuscripts that were later named Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. http://www.yesmagazine.org/happiness/the-ancient-greeks-6-words-for-love-and-why-knowing-them-can-change-your-life?utm_source=FB&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=20131227#.Ur7rEfzJtvU.facebook

Perhaps the problem in philosophy has arisen through Plato, whose wife was something of a shrew. Perhaps not. Women may have been used as a projection for goddesses, but unfortunately, they were also vilified and demonized just as readily by males throughout history. Why, recently, a woman was beheaded for witchcraft in India. Others have been burned. http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/asia/2015/07/21/Indian-villagers-behead-woman-over-witchcraft-.html See Erich Neumann's book The Great Mother for a brilliant exposition of the feminine archetypes illustrated in his mandala. If one learns the teaching of agapé, women are not generally regarded as their F- (Negative Feminine) archetype describes.



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Re: Philosophy and Disparity [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #21995639 - 07/25/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Aletheia, the spirit of truth

Aesop has given us a wonderful story of Aletheia, the personification of truth.  One day, the potter Prometheus decided to fashion Aletheia from clay, in order to guide his other creation, humanity.  But his plan was confounded when he was called away by an unexpected summons from Zeus.  Prometheus rushed off, leaving his workshop in the charge of Dolus, his apprentice.  Now Dolus, whose name means “trickery”, undertook to copy his master’s work.  The forgery was almost flawless, like the original in every way but one – he didn’t have time to make the feet.  When his master returned, Dolus trembled in fear, hoping he would not notice.  Prometheus beheld not one but two figures of “Truth”, and was amazed.  Seeking to take credit for both, he fired them in the kiln, then breathed life into them.  That’s when the fatal difference was revealed.  Aletheia stepped forward in measured steps, but the false copy, lacking feet, stood stuck in its place.




The painting by Botticelli (above) seems to have a hylomorphic quality. The room is full of statue forms, the achievements of staticity. The foreground of these figures and personifications by comparison almost seems to be melting. Everyone seems  oppressed or oppressing, clinging together and trying to climb out of the substratum, but all they are able to do is pull themselves down.

Aletheia in the back seems to be the only one free of this. Her finger points up, maybe to the platonic realm of intelligibility, to the realm of form, or vaguely enough, up and out? Does her gaze have intelligibility to it? Should we look to it from our improbable perspective, or had we might as well say hers is the finger that points to the moon?


Death of Socrates - Jacques Louis David (1800s)

Pardon the typos; using a phone.


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