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Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users?
    #21984374 - 07/23/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

http://food.alternet.org/drugs/entities-another-universe-inhabit-brains-dmt-users



Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users?

There is something strange, very strange, going on inside the heads of people using the fast-acting psychedelic. Machine elves, anyone?


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By Phillip Smith / AlterNet
July 20, 2015


Have you encountered stick men, machine elves or other discarnate entities while tripping brains on DMT? If so, you're not alone. The use of the powerful, fast-acting psychedelic dimethyltriptamine (DMT) generates reports of such entities on a regular basis.

DMT has been around for a long time, although it's never been that popular—and encounters with extradimensional critters may be part of the reason why. Back in the 1970s, it was known as "the businessman's trip" because you could take it at the beginning of the lunch hour and be back to normal it was time to go back to work. When smoked, the psychedelic effects begin almost immediately and fade away with half an hour.

It's also the active psychoactive ingredient in ayahuasca, the mind-melting tea concocted by Amazonian shamans and venerated by the Uniao Do Vegetal  (the Union of the Vegetable), a Brazilian church with some 15,000 adherents.

In an article in Psychology Today, Scott McGreal zeroed in on DMT's remarkable ability to allow its users to "encounter non-human intelligences, often resembling aliens." What's more, McGreal notes, citing the work of pioneering DMT researcher psychiatrist Rick Strassman, "some users come away from these encounters convinced that these entities are somehow real."

Strassman, who detailed his 1990s research findings in DMT: The Spirit Molecule,explained that under high doses of DMT, experienced volunteer subjects experienced rapid and overwhelming psychedelic effects, losing awareness of their surroundings and their bodies as the effects peaked at around two minutes. After the initial rush, the subjects were able to describe their continuing experience and generally reported visual imagery that could be seen with eyes open or closed; brighter, more intense, and more deeply-saturated colors, and kaleidoscopic geometric patterns.

According to Strassman, "about half" the subjects went even further, entering into what he called "freestanding, independent levels of existence" of a most unusual nature. There, they said they encountered intelligent "beings," "entities," "aliens," or "guides." They described them as "clowns, reptiles, mantises, bees, spiders, cacti, and stick figures."

Strassman isn't the only one to report such findings. Psychedelicist Terence McKenna also ran into those discarnate entities, which he charmingly described as "self-transforming machine elves."

And that repository of drug experience knowledge, the Vaults of Erowid, has an entire page devoted to Apparent Communication With Discarnate Entitities Induced By Dimethyltriptamine (DMT). It makes for some wild reading:

"I quickly entered into the trance state without noticing any great amount of the usual patterned visual hallucination," wrote one Erowid user. "I seemed to be falling away, spiraling into some large, black void, after which I seemed to be in a bright, open space in the presence of two other beings. Their forms were not very clear, but they seemed to be like children, as if we were together in a playground. They appeared to be moving very rapidly....The two beings seemed to be trying to attract my attention, and to communicate something to me, but I could not understand. It was as if they were trying to make me understand where I was. One even seemed to be holding up a sign, like a speech balloon, but, as I recall, the sign was blank. I attended to my breathing, and with this came an increased sense of self-identity, and with this a lessening of contact with the two beings."

"Smoked 40 mg of DMT wax spread over mint leaves as usual, sifting up leaning against a pillow," another reported. "As the trance came on I was overwhelmed with visual imagery that I did not even attempt to make sense of. I struggled to remember who I was.....I turned my attention to the visual component, and what I saw was an incredible amount of stuff coming at me in waves, sort of rolling toward me. There were two beings in the scene, and they were doing the rolling, definitely throwing all this stuff at me -- I don't know why. The scene changed, and there was more visual hallucination, but I don't remember the details -- all happening very quickly."

"I was in a large space and saw what seemed to be thousands of the entities," yet another reported. "They were rapidly passing something to and fro among themselves, and were looking intently at me, as if to say 'See what we are doing' ... I noticed what seemed to be an opening into a large space, like looking through a cave opening to a starry sky. As I approached this I saw that resting in the opening was a large creature, with many arms, somewhat like an octopus, and all over the arms were eyes, mostly closed, as if the creature were asleep or slumbering. As I approached it the eyes opened, and it/they became aware of me. It did not seem especially well-disposed towards me, as if it did not wish to be bothered by a mere human, and I had the impression I wasn't going to get past it, so I did not try."

"I saw the 'elves' as multi-dimensional creatures formed by strands of visible language; they were more creaturely than I had ever seen them before," another user chimed in. "The elves were dancing in and out of the multidimensional visible language matrix, 'waving' their 'arms' and 'limbs/hands/fingers?' and 'smiling' or 'laughing,' although I saw no faces as such. The elves were 'telling' me (or I was understanding them to say) that I had seen them before, in early childhood. Memories were flooding back of seeing the elves: they looked just like they do now: ever-shifting, folding, multidimensional, multicolored (what colors!), always laughing weaving/waving, showing me things, showing me the visible language they are created/creatures of, teaching me to speak and read."

Both Strassman and Erowid reported consistent themes around the discarnate entities. Subjects often reported that the beings seemed to waiting for them and would subject them to mind and body probes while communicating through telepathy, gestures, or visual imagery. Sometimes they entities seemed caring and concerned; other times they were emotionally detached, if not downright scary.

What's most intriguing about these reports is that people actually believe them to be real. They subjectively seem too real to be otherwise. It is difficult indeed to credit reports from users of strange drugs that they've opened a window into an alternate world/parallel universe/weird realm. Scientific method requires findings be based on empirical science—not the fever brains of trippers—but these "machine elves" only manifest themselves in the sensoria of people under the influence of DMT.

Perhaps it is only psychedelic mysticism. That appears to be Strassman's stance. Like many others entranced by the inner mysteries psychedelics can open up, he believes they can provide insights into the "deeper nature" of reality. That's not at all unusual among psychonauts, many of whom are convinced that there is a deeper reality behind our mundane existence, that there is an objective spiritual presence in the universe, or that there is life after death.

I don't know about that. But if you go tripping on DMT and encounter any discarnate entities, say hello to them for me. I'd like to hear what they have to say.



Phillip Smith is editor of the AlterNet Drug Reporter and author of the Drug War Chronicle.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: motaman]
    #21984539 - 07/23/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: motaman]
    #21984548 - 07/23/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's all the same UNIverse. Whether they are agents of love or hate depends on the user. Read my testimony of Christ for my input.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: motaman] * 3
    #21984839 - 07/23/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:facepalm:  Am I the only person who thinks the question of whether entities from another universe (temporarily I assume?) inhabit the brains of DMT users is the most ridiculous question ever posed in the history of mankind??  What idiotic poppycock.  The folks who propose this question, and those who seek to speculate on an answer are merely attention grabbing morons.

Who would even enter such a debate?  OMFG.  We have sunk to a new low in terms of the "effects" of powerful short acting psychedelics.  "Here man, take a hit of this DMT...a Gorbonian machine-elf from XALACACY Universe will enter your brain, show you shit and fuck you up!"  Good god I wish people would engage their brains before posing such idiotic claptrap.  I FLUSHED shit that was more valuable than this proposition after my morning coffee.  :lol:

Jesus H. Christ.  :facepalm:

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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21984929 - 07/23/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Apparently nature boy votes for entities being automatons of the psyche :grin:


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21985151 - 07/23/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Nature Boy said:
:facepalm:  Am I the only person who thinks the question of whether entities from another universe (temporarily I assume?) inhabit the brains of DMT users is the most ridiculous question ever posed in the history of mankind??  What idiotic poppycock.  The folks who propose this question, and those who seek to speculate on an answer are merely attention grabbing morons.

Who would even enter such a debate?  OMFG.  We have sunk to a new low in terms of the "effects" of powerful short acting psychedelics.  "Here man, take a hit of this DMT...a Gorbonian machine-elf from XALACACY Universe will enter your brain, show you shit and fuck you up!"  Good god I wish people would engage their brains before posing such idiotic claptrap.  I FLUSHED shit that was more valuable than this proposition after my morning coffee.  :lol:

Jesus H. Christ.  :facepalm:

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well nature boy  there is some physics to support the claim

do some research :nerd:


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21985205 - 07/23/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think this is an excellent question, being a DMT user myself.

It does actually seem, while you are recently affected, particularly if MAOI is used, that the entities and the space they inhabit are REAL things you have encountered simultaneously inside and outside your "self".  I've come upon some seriously life changing realizations under the influence of these compounds, and due to what seemed to me to be an actual benevolent external force.  By the way, for that very reason, it can be helpful to have a benevolent person hosting a ceremony and inviting you to it.  Then you can within yourself on all levels during the trip act like something external is healing you.

But I am of the opinion that things happening in people's brains on DMT, while certainly profound, are most likely solely the function of the brain, and not interference from an external source.  And of course one can argue endlessly about all the quantum physics-wormholes-extra-dimensions stuff being supportive of the hypothesis that DMT can cause consciousness to travel along these other dimensions, which while a plausible hypothesis, does not present itself as a higher likelihood than the more simple hypothesis about how people change their brain chemistry and consciousness changes accordingly to that alone.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: leafing]
    #21985232 - 07/23/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It really bothers me when people take the "I can't perceive that so it must not be" approach.

There is a lot of scientific fact around perspective and neurotransmitters.

It makes perfect sense altering your neurotransmitters could alter how, what, and the amount of data you perceive.

What we can perceive is very limited so it is pretty close minded to assume there is nothing else beyond our perception


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: musiclover420]
    #21985356 - 07/23/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

^ @musiclover420 I've never experienced entity contact from a psychedelic but I did have some realistic hallucinations from diphenhydramine when I was a kid (awful nasty feeling drug if abused). I was talking to people who were alive but weren't actually in my presence at the time, I saw them & everything. That wasn't me seeing something there in reality that I normally wouldn't be able to perceive, I was just really fucked up lol.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: PurpleHaze147]
    #21985711 - 07/23/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Achuma, Leafling (and any others who respond similarly):

You really should get a grip.  There's "out there" and then there's "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out there."  The proposition that entities from another universe inhabit the brains of DMT users falls into the later category.  You guys SERIOUSLY need to do a reality check.  And by the by...my grasp of physics is exemplary.  I have never once read a seriously proposed model of how the universe functions that would allow such a preposterous result.

For the record, I'm NOT going to debate this point or be drawn into a ridiculous argument that would take up even one additional moment of my time.  Anyone..and I mean ANYONE who would even consider such a proposal is not worth my time engaging in conversation.

The end.  I will now "hide" this conversation and spend my time with person's whose IQ's are at least in double digits.  For all you cretins and mathematically challenged out there...that means 10 or above.

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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21985755 - 07/23/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You are the only one saying they "inhabit the brains" I believe.

However that doesn't mean people could be perceiving things they normally can't.

That would actually make a lot of sense considering the nature of neurotransmitters and perception.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: musiclover420]
    #21985853 - 07/23/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

its does say inhabit in the headline..


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21985922 - 07/23/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Wow with the harsh and insulting replies.
If these things are multi dimensional, then I can imagine so.

An open mind is open to all possibilities, and afterall, the shamans believe so.
The ones who have used it for ages


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #21986022 - 07/23/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

intelligent species will always seek out drugs
our brains and bodies are so highly complex


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: motaman]
    #21986088 - 07/23/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:eek:  Maybe L Ron Hubbard and Scientology are not so crazy after all?


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Konyap]
    #21986143 - 07/23/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Wow, haha!  I argue in favor of DMT trips being essentially a figment of the imagination, and Natureboy calls me a cretin, because he believes DMT trips are merely a figment of the imagination as well. 


I may be a cretin or something, but I'm a literate cretin who has no difficulty interpreting the things I read.

And I guess Natureboy is a cretin, because he thinks DMT trips are all in your head, just like I do!


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Achuma]
    #21986147 - 07/23/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I mean, can't we just agree to agree?

EDIT: I checked on NB's posts today.  Apparently he's just super butt hurt about life, the universe, and everything and thinks that everyone besides him is an asshole today. 

Get better nature boy!  I know, the few days after some heavy drug use can leave you feeling....sandy in the vagina area.  But hey, sand in the vagina makes the crabs feel at home!


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21986736 - 07/23/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Achuma, Leafling (and any others who respond similarly):

You really should get a grip.  There's "out there" and then there's "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out there."  The proposition that entities from another universe inhabit the brains of DMT users falls into the later category.  You guys SERIOUSLY need to do a reality check.  And by the by...my grasp of physics is exemplary.  I have never once read a seriously proposed model of how the universe functions that would allow such a preposterous result.

For the record, I'm NOT going to debate this point or be drawn into a ridiculous argument that would take up even one additional moment of my time.  Anyone..and I mean ANYONE who would even consider such a proposal is not worth my time engaging in conversation.

The end.  I will now "hide" this conversation and spend my time with person's whose IQ's are at least in double digits.  For all you cretins and mathematically challenged out there...that means 10 or above.

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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21987642 - 07/23/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

And who are you?? Lol jk the only reason I smoked dmt was following your STB tek :bow2: 

Yea I really can't put a word on the experience I didn't see "entities" it was a roller coaster of inter dimensional travel ie: meaning there are literally other dimensions that are possible to travel to. Idk Its really really hard to explain


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: ICEMANOO9]
    #21987678 - 07/23/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not sure why this is in the news section. There's literally thousands of similar re-hashed articles popping up all the time that don't contain any new facts or evidence.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: DustJuice]
    #21987764 - 07/23/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think the idea of it being actual alien intelligence is way too far out to be the truth as well.  A theory I had after smoking DMT a couple times was that MAYBE, what would be more likely anyway, is that maybe smoking DMT allows you to access endogenous intelligences.  Our brain, our in tact consciousness or whatever, is able to recognize them as intelligences, separate from our own waking consciousness, so we feel like it must be an alien.

I mean think about it.  Your body has its own separate intelligence from your waking consciousness.  When you get a cut you dont think "Heal, heal, heal...".  When you get certain bacteria or viruses in your body, you don't think "Shit, I need to send some white blood cells after that bastard!!"  There is an entirely separate and "alien" intelligence INSIDE US aside from the one that we access on a daily basis.  So maybe, DMT allows access to, or at least puts you in touch with, that separate intelligence in someway.  And we are able to perceive that it is clearly a living intelligence. 

Maybe the brain even occasionally anthropomorphizes this internal "alien" intelligence into a form we can understand as living and as life, because we clearly know that it IS the very foundation of LIFE, so on certain occasions our brain gives it the form of an animal, or goddess, a form that we can recognize as life since it has no real form of its own, and our brains might not be able to comprehend that this alien intelligence we encounter is actually US.  "How can this other living intelligence be ME?", we would think.  "I am the one thinking this thought, so clearly that intelligence I'm contacting cannot also be me, it must be alien!"  It's too strange to comprehend that there is a very real, separate intelligence aside from our waking consciousness that makes up what our living self is, so we just understand it as being alien or from somewhere else.

That is just the theory that I came up with while I was bored at work one day trying to figure out what the few trips I took must have meant...


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Shpongle1]
    #21987865 - 07/23/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I often see spirits in lucid dreams and in trips, both on LSD, mushrooms and Salvia

It's the same kind of spirits both on LSD and mushrooms for me

They can be very funny/wise too...

But those in my lucid dreams usually don't say anything, they're not the pleasant kinds. Those in trips basically transmit thoughts to my brain, or sometimes enter my body to 'teach me a lesson'

Haven't tripped in maybe a year or so though, but seeing spirits was just about everytime I took a 4g chocolate dose
They would even overlap what I looked at, faint looking and hard to describe how they looked

But they would often speak , I got some very long conversation stored away somewhere :-P


I don't believe it is a good idea for science to go into this though, maybe it's real , maybe it isn't. If it is real, you probably shouldn't seek out spirits.
It seems we meet the spirits of our own frequency, so if we are in the brain hell, we meet brain hell spirits. If we are in the joy of our hearts we meet joyful spirits.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: lessismore]
    #21987911 - 07/24/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I did learn from them though, and they helped me always where I was at, to raise my frequency slightly/a lot sometimes , a noticeable frequency adjustment everytime I spoke to them

Used to receive messages of some kind from them that helped me change my lifestyle and what I do

I'm sure someone has tried something like it, and the 90% that don't have probably thinks its crazy :-)

But very very clear very wise communication for sure. You know when you find a very good and friendly spirit. And you know if you find a very ugly one too (bad trip) with the possibility of severe depression after the trip that may infect your thoughts


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: lessismore]
    #21988189 - 07/24/15 01:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I often see spirits in lucid dreams and in trips, both on LSD, mushrooms and Salvia

It's the same kind of spirits both on LSD and mushrooms for me

They can be very funny/wise too...

But those in my lucid dreams usually don't say anything, they're not the pleasant kinds. Those in trips basically transmit thoughts to my brain, or sometimes enter my body to 'teach me a lesson'

Haven't tripped in maybe a year or so though, but seeing spirits was just about everytime I took a 4g chocolate dose
They would even overlap what I looked at, faint looking and hard to describe how they looked

But they would often speak , I got some very long conversation stored away somewhere :-P


I don't believe it is a good idea for science to go into this though, maybe it's real , maybe it isn't. If it is real, you probably shouldn't seek out spirits.
It seems we meet the spirits of our own frequency, so if we are in the brain hell, we meet brain hell spirits. If we are in the joy of our hearts we meet joyful spirits.



Spirits? I don't believe such a thing, just as when I smoke DMT I'm absolutely not inhabited by aliens... its in my opinion these equally  have 0.0001% scientific validity.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: dark3st]
    #21988343 - 07/24/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Here's your answer....straight from an extraterrestrial!!!



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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #21988458 - 07/24/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ahh No, your just tripping


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Laughingcowwa]
    #21988462 - 07/24/15 03:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I would imagine most here have seen the movie "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" I've never tried DMT and I dying to try it out so I can chime in with my experiences. DMT is not a drug and is produced in the brain by the pineal gland. 



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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Laughingcowwa]
    #21988902 - 07/24/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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ahh No, your just tripping




This is not even close to an acceptable "answer" and is just such a lazy thought it doesn't even merit posting.  Sorry to come off harsh but seriously.  What does that even mean "you're just tripping".  You're "just tripping" on your normal brain chemistry too.  The chemical makeup of our brain, as decided by evolutionary success, is the one that allowed us the best chance for survival in the wild.  Of course it was most important to be aware of threats that were right around us on this plane of existence.  Altering this brain chemistry, whether directly through drugs or through other means, often shows us a completely different reality. 

Saying "you're just tripping" is just ridiculously lazy and doesn't actually mean anything, it misses the entire point of the question.  Serotonin helps us see this "reality", change the structure of serotonin slightly and ingest that, and you get thrust into an entirely different "reality".  You could easily say you're "just tripping" on serotonin and other endogenous brain chemicals every day when you wake up.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Shpongle1]
    #21990037 - 07/24/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Someone good a good clue... , tripping is no less real than this reality necessarily

Any experience can be equally real, dreams,trips,obes,ndes,everyday reality,lucid dreaming

Real is just a trigger in the brain, forcing you to accept your reality
It can be turned off just as quickly, so you realize your reality is fake. Am I dreaming now?


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: lessismore]
    #21990050 - 07/24/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ever so slightly


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: lessismore]
    #21990071 - 07/24/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

And I better remind you that real is what you believe is real, so real to people is what other people tell them is real usually and varies a lot from person to person, no person has the same 'definition of real', 'the same reality'

Real is our cultural framework

If you uninstall culture, you now support ufos, aliens , because you know nothing. No knowledge, empty mind.

If you install culture you know everything, so ufos and aliens don't exist, scientifically impossible. A conditioned mind that will fight for being right over others.


Science has to find the balance of knowing/not knowing.

We cannot know, that's a fact, it could all be an illusion and we would never know. We can't even trust our own thoughts often. The most logical people may be betrayed by their thoughts (ego).
Realizing that you cannot know can be truly humbling, especially if you used to think you could know.


There is probably both a spiritual explanation for spirits and a scientific one. But it will be hard to tell what is right.
Our shadow self can take any manifestation, and we can split our personality too into 2 , then we can talk to ourselves and hear what we always wanted to hear...

Doesn't mean spirits are not real though. Know nothing.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Shpongle1]
    #21990147 - 07/24/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I think the idea of it being actual alien intelligence is way too far out to be the truth as well.  A theory I had after smoking DMT a couple times was that MAYBE




Read David Icke, he makes insane conspiracies look sane :-)

He says most people are aliens they just don't know, and only awakened humans are humans.
Those that are not awakened, are not even human.

:laugh:

But it makes some sense of some sort, why have 90% of the earth forgotten themselves?
There might be a spiritual cause, and only people who know themselves can see they have forgotten themselves. Possessed by their thoughts. They will do anything to get satisfaction in their thoughts, incl killing others, being better than others etc.

So are 90% of the planet alien reptilians ?:wink: - or just possessed

I guess any awakened person has wondered about that, why people think like they do, act like they do. That is not normal for the human soul. Something else has taken them over. Maybe their own culture, maybe an outside entity/program.

I think what he tried to point out was that this alien entity that has taken over humanity is using them for batteries like in the matrix, harvesting our emotional and spiritual energy. So spreading fear gives them power. It's the whole ego duality thing. Brilliant, but maybe with some grain of truth in it most awakened people would recognize, because most people are far from being themselves, they only spread hate and fear, live in fear.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: lessismore]
    #21990172 - 07/24/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

'If you can't see it, its not real' has always worked well in the past


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    #21990199 - 07/24/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I cannot see the earth is round... , not without sciences few 100s years of progress

But what you can see,taste,smell is your brain
You cannot even trust your brain

There's a philosophical proof of that, your brain may delude you. All senses may delude you.

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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: lessismore]
    #21990225 - 07/24/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not to cause a trainwreck in here, but people knew the earth was round for thousands of years.  Has nothing to do with modern technology.  You can get the hint numerous ways and you can PROVE it out using any two structures that cast a shadow and are sufficiently far apart and the ability to measure that shadow reasonably accurately.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: lessismore]
    #21990234 - 07/24/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, it was just that appearances can be deceiving, surely the earth looks flat.

But take it at another angle and it looks round.

Maybe in another dimension, geometry has no meaning?

It's all how you perceive. Perception is our reality. That's why you cannot know, you may say the earth looks round for you in your reference frame. But if you travel near light speed the earth will actually change shape (lorentz contraction).

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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: lessismore]
    #21992065 - 07/24/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Whatever that DMT stuff is, WOW.  Im not sure if it was all the disney movies, the wall, and other psychedellic animations and art from my entire life span of viewing such art. 

There was african bird god thing with colored orbs
I saw something kinda like Vultron, or a transformer.
I saw the funny alien writing with the sopwith camel and other funny symbols.
Im currently pretty damned shooken from my last DMT trip, which I dont remember much about. 

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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: motaman]
    #21992532 - 07/24/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Drugs can be really interesting sometimes, as can the delusions they create.  I've broken through a fair number of times, seen some pretty interesting shit.  I've also had some really interesting experiences while I was dreaming.  At the end of the day though, it's all just your brain experiencing changes in it's biochemistry.  The drug isn't doing anything special, your brain is.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: downlowfunk]
    #21992599 - 07/24/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I just want to say that I heard people talk about the 'machine elves', and I had heard some of the Terrence McKenna
clips where he talks about them, etc. I really thought it was all either a far out joke I didn't get, or just
some bullshit. Really, I pretty much just assumed it was bullshit.

That all changed when I was smoking DMT with my friend one time.
I had smoked DMT probably around 50 times before this happened, and never experienced anything like a humanoid form
during any of those trips. However, this time, at one point during my breakthrough, I came into this particular
'world' in hyperspace, and I was faced with a wall extending infinitely (or as far as I could perceive).

The wall was made of what seemed like hundreds of rooms which were all completely open on the side facing me. Each of these rooms had these 'people' in them.
They DID seem busy doing stuff...I have no idea what. I do also remember perceiving them as have almost pointy heads or hats or something.
They were not trying to communicate with me. (I don't think?) I do remember some of them turning and noticing me, though.

It was honestly the most bizarre experience of my life. Nothing else even comes close..ever since that I don't ever discount people talking about 'elves' or entities..
I don't believe they were made of 'language' or anything like some people say, and I don't know if those were the machine elves, or if they are in another universe, etc. I have no idea.

What I do know, is that I had one of those experiences, and I have never had anything even remotely similar happen to me on other DMT trips in the past.

I usually just get really fractally visuals, and if I take a mega dose I usually just black out and don't really remember it.
The place where the people were was absolutely different, though. It was very solid and real feeling, there weren't fractally visuals. It was totally different.

So there, I admit it. I have joined the crazy side.

It happened years ago and I still can't believe I am saying that...

DMT is some pretty crazy shit...


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    #21993264 - 07/24/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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    #21993793 - 07/25/15 05:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

"Reality" doesn't get discerned or seperated from perception most of the time. They are both malleable concept dependant upon each individual. External multidimensional beings being percieved on a different wavelength which becomes accessible when we overload on dmt? Or internal personifications of personal multidimension thought processes returning from their quantum state of iteration and seeming outside of ourselves because of their unfamiliarity or because they are shielded from being realized as existing within your own personal construct of reality, shielded by the ego to protect.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: nuentoter] * 1
    #21994419 - 07/25/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

http://gizmodo.com/oh-god-someone-ran-fear-and-loathing-through-googles-n-1716036990

After this new wave of googles neural network.. We have to start questioning things.

Why does this look like DMT land or the LSD overlay?

Are we really encountering beings?  Going to strange lands? 

Our brain's are very magical.  I am convinced that we can just see all the layers that it takes to create our world.  When we are in altered states, we are in direct communication with our brain and anything it creates.

This is why it feels so fucking real...  We are going somewhere in our own mind.  That's why the beings seem to know you, everything you did..  IT IS YOU.  It does know everything about you and what you did wrong and how to fix you.

This all ties back into my post about how building the brain is not the best idea and how we form our own thoughts.

We run simulations for EVERYTHING in our small super computer that is more powerful than all the computational power on the planet.  It is capable of creating an entire universe just because you want to go to the store. This means, If you want to go to the store, your brain run's a simulation for every possible outcome and creates a whole new universe just to give you a or many answers.

Now, when are dive our own mind with DMT or other forms of compounds or life threatening situations, we are then pulled into these simulations our brain creates to deal with every day life.

You are indeed a dream within a dream..

I am overly convinced with all my encounters now that there really isn't anything special about this world or the drugs in them.. We really are trapped forever.

You never met god, you never seen an alien..  You have met yourself and have made up a simulation with aliens in it... It's just not real.







Another post of mine having to do with this topic:



Once you understand what Sam is communicating, you can then extrapolate that those thoughts have to be being made from somewhere for us to select from.

Those process that are making the pre-selected thoughts are actually simulations that our brain runs to figure out all possible future outcomes, then gives us the pre-selection.  This means, to get those choices that you pick from, when ever you encounter something that needs an answer, your brain runs simulations to get you those answers.  It is then those answers that you pick from, giving the freedom of free will and choice.

It is these simulations that we get lost in during the DMT flash.. It is where you can meet god or anything your mind wants to create..

These simulations ALWAYS have a purpose, so of course so do our experiences..

The line above explains it all.  If our simulations always get made to find an answer, so does to that these simulations always have meaning.  It is just another illusion that we are having problems identifying with.  Since you are creating these worlds and lets say you decide to drink some DMT and cappi.

You can go into places that seem like they take 50 years, or meet beings that can heal you because they know you. 

It did take 50 years and you did meet a being that could heal you.. They just are not coming from outside this universe or dimension, they are coming from your own brain and they are ALWAYS.. I REPEAT ALLLLLLWWWAAAAAYS TEMPORARY and presented to the user in a way nobody else can.. Because it's their brain.


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    #21994544 - 07/25/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: motaman]
    #21995750 - 07/25/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:voila:


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    #21996659 - 07/25/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

With DMT and 5meo-DMT, it would behoove probably behoove everyone to find their minimum operative dose. Supposedly, with those the MOP for actually being able to recall anything at all from the experience could vary to within a single milligram, so getting a scale that can measure that might be a good idea.

BTW I've smoked DMT once 7 years ago, and it remains the single most "impressive" experience of my life. I felt as if a kind of veil had been lifted and I was suddenly able to perceive a reality that was more real than our consensual reality that we're all so familiar with. There was a sense of a (or at least one) benevolent intelligence vastly superior to ours. This state, somehow ego-less in that your "earth ID," occupation, body, etc, are of little significance if not meaningless, which really starts at level 4, and yet "I" was still "me" with full awareness of my limited thinking style and personality remaining intact... This and yet able to "sense" large numbers of objects and other impressions and sensations simultaneously in a way that is not a dumbed-down version of perceiving, delusions of grandeur, ego-inflation inebriation usually associated with alcohol and opiates.

I believe that rather than expecting conclusive answers to questions such as in the title of this thread any time in the near future, these experiences give us more than enough reason to at least suspect that not only might there be more "out there" than we can perceive and everything that we do pick up on is filtered through a tiny pinhole, but perhaps these trips might even be mere indicators of the inconceivable and ineffable.

I also believe that a basic awareness of a sort of fundamental backdrop of emptiness being the non-essence of ultimate reality is useful in not getting too wrapped up in the perceptual, whether drug-induced or "not."


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: dwnlw2slw]
    #21996758 - 07/25/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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With DMT and 5meo-DMT, or it would behoove probably behoove everyone to find their minimum operative dose. Supposedly, with those the MOP for actually beyond able to recall anything at all from the experience could vary to within a single milligram, so getting a scale that can measure that might be a good idea.

BTW I've smoked DMT once 7 years ago, and it remains the single most "impressive" experience of my life. I felt as if a kind of veil had been lifted and I was suddenly able to perceive a reality that was more real than our consensual reality that we're all so familiar with. There was a sense of a (or at least) benevolent intelligence vastly superior to ours. This state, somehow ego-less in that your "earth ID," occupation, body, etc, are of little significance if not meaningless, which really starts at level 4, and yet "I" was still "me" with full awareness of my limited thinking style and personality remaining intact... This and yet able to "sense" large numbers of objects and other impressions and sensations simultaneously in a way that is not a dumbed-down version of perceiving, delusions of grandeur, ego-inflation inebriation usually associated with alcohol and opiates.

I believe that rather than expecting conclusive answers to questions such as in the title of this thread any time in the near future, these experiences give is more than enough reason to at least suspect that not only might there be more "out there" than we can perceive and everything that we do pick up on is filtered through a tiny pinhole, but perhaps these trips might even be merely indicators of the inconceivable and ineffable.

I also believe that a basic awareness of a sort of fundamental backdrop of emptiness being the non-essence of ultimate reality is useful in not getting too wrapped up in the level perceptual, whether drug-induced or "not."



talk like this makes me think the DMT experience is somehow connected to virtual reality.

And mckenna's DMT trip reports where DMT entities "sing" objects into existence and try to get terence mckenna to do it too.

Its almost like our unconscious mind is exposing us to the impending mindfuck to be brought on by sophisticated virtual realities.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21999081 - 07/26/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You experience psychosis enough times you kind of understand how changes in brain chemistry can completely reshape your reality.  It's a fucking drug...  You want to see how it looks at the negative end of the spectrum stay up for 4 days smoking PCP and taking amphetamines, you will see crazier shit than you would during a DMT trip.  Why is that not equally as magical?  You aren't seeing the truth, you are seeing a distorted reality.  Even when I smoked massive quantities of DMT I thought the whole religious aspect of breaking through was extremely far fetched.  It's like everything humans experience that they don't have the capacity to truly understand they throw the label 'God' onto it.  It's not god, it's all in your head...


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: fapjack]
    #21999804 - 07/26/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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From the Spanish,menso m. (feminine mensa, masculine plural mensos, feminine plural mensas)

1.(offensive, Mexico, Central America) foolish, dull
2.(offensive, Mexico, Central America) distracted, absent-minded
3.(offensive, Mexico) ignorant
4.(offensive, Mexico) inexpert
5.(offensive, Mexico) timid, shy
6.(offensive, Mexico) ingenuous, naive




My uncle's in mensa too, doesnt mean you are intelligent. Well-trained in arithmetic and tests yes but to state that membership qualifies you as smart is comical.

Sorry to flame but i hate when people drop their membership at a social club as a status of superiority. If you want to do that, join a country club. :shrug:


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    #22000250 - 07/26/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It's like everything humans experience that they don't have the capacity to truly understand they throw the label 'God' onto it.  It's not god, it's all in your head...




You could say the same thing about people who don't understand the concept of god and look down everyone who believes these things they can't understand.

Depending on your understanding of "god" yes he is in our heads, you could say he is our heads and we are it.

Of course that is all just opinion/ theory. But I know that, I try to stay open minded to other possibilities though no matter how far out they seem.

Quantum psychics is slowly proving things that are very far out and hard to grasp can be backed by science so who knows.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22000698 - 07/26/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think an interdimentional entity took a dump on NB`s wheaties


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    #22002107 - 07/26/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yea... no because if the entities are in another universe they couldn't also be in this universe where our brains are.

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    #22002115 - 07/26/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

wow NB is in here, didn't realize he was still around. of course you would post here if you were active :P


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    #22002564 - 07/27/15 12:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: refried]
    #22003202 - 07/27/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think the mind is an interesting entity, much more interesting than the concept of god is.  To better understand it requires research.  Labeling something as god's work isn't productive to better understanding the human condition or the brain.  I mean all of these beliefs really wouldn't be that hard to test in a controlled setting.


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    #22007074 - 07/27/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

control is an illusion..


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: SurReality]
    #22007369 - 07/27/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You're an illusion
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: travelleler]
    #22007856 - 07/28/15 02:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: fapjack]
    #22008495 - 07/28/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Drugs can be really interesting sometimes, as can the delusions they create.  I've broken through a fair number of times, seen some pretty interesting shit.  I've also had some really interesting experiences while I was dreaming.  At the end of the day though, it's all just your brain experiencing changes in it's biochemistry.  The drug isn't doing anything special, your brain is.




People talk about DMT being special for 'showing you ultimate reality'
any psychedelic can do it for me, feels like a veil has been lifted sometimes

25i-nbome does it, lsd does it, shrooms do it

salvia doesn't quite do it, but slightly, you get beauty on every object and a sense of being in many dimensions at once , just no God thoughts / god control of reality - reality controls you


25i,lsd,shrooms can be much like a lucid dream, where you wake up in your reality

this is not real... i must be dreaming

we could be living our whole lives in a dream

(I don't think DMT is more special than any of the other ones, lsd /shrooms seem to do exactly the same thing as each other for me - often a very spiritual experience and realizations , they look like natural brian dmt and may be able to unlock the brain. Now the question is if it is safe to unlock the mind.... not for everyone. You may unlock the spiritual potential of the universe and become debilitated for life. You might not be ready this lifetime)


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Toadstool5]
    #22016477 - 07/29/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i'm MENSA




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From the Spanish,menso m. (feminine mensa, masculine plural mensos, feminine plural mensas)

1.(offensive, Mexico, Central America) foolish, dull
2.(offensive, Mexico, Central America) distracted, absent-minded
3.(offensive, Mexico) ignorant
4.(offensive, Mexico) inexpert
5.(offensive, Mexico) timid, shy
6.(offensive, Mexico) ingenuous, naive




My uncle's in mensa too, doesnt mean you are intelligent. Well-trained in arithmetic and tests yes but to state that membership qualifies you as smart is comical.

Sorry to flame but i hate when people drop their membership at a social club as a status of superiority. If you want to do that, join a country club. :shrug:



by definition it does mean i smart seeing as how it qualifies me as a genius


also i know what menso means im half mexican.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: leafing]
    #22016674 - 07/29/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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by definition it does mean i smart seeing as how it qualifies me as a genius




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    #22017796 - 07/29/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

"I smart..."  :laugh2:


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    #22018001 - 07/30/15 12:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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"I smart..."  :laugh2:



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"I smart..."  :laugh2:



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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: leafing]
    #22025886 - 07/31/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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i'm MENSA




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From the Spanish,menso m. (feminine mensa, masculine plural mensos, feminine plural mensas)

1.(offensive, Mexico, Central America) foolish, dull
2.(offensive, Mexico, Central America) distracted, absent-minded
3.(offensive, Mexico) ignorant
4.(offensive, Mexico) inexpert
5.(offensive, Mexico) timid, shy
6.(offensive, Mexico) ingenuous, naive




My uncle's in mensa too, doesnt mean you are intelligent. Well-trained in arithmetic and tests yes but to state that membership qualifies you as smart is comical.

Sorry to flame but i hate when people drop their membership at a social club as a status of superiority. If you want to do that, join a country club. :shrug:



by definition it does mean i smart seeing as how it qualifies me as a genius


also i know what menso means im half mexican.



Being half Mexican qualifies you as necessarily knowing Spanish about as much as being a member of MENSA qualifies you as necessarily being genius...which is not at all.


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    #22040149 - 08/03/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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i'm MENSA




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From the Spanish,menso m. (feminine mensa, masculine plural mensos, feminine plural mensas)

1.(offensive, Mexico, Central America) foolish, dull
2.(offensive, Mexico, Central America) distracted, absent-minded
3.(offensive, Mexico) ignorant
4.(offensive, Mexico) inexpert
5.(offensive, Mexico) timid, shy
6.(offensive, Mexico) ingenuous, naive




My uncle's in mensa too, doesnt mean you are intelligent. Well-trained in arithmetic and tests yes but to state that membership qualifies you as smart is comical.

Sorry to flame but i hate when people drop their membership at a social club as a status of superiority. If you want to do that, join a country club. :shrug:



by definition it does mean i smart seeing as how it qualifies me as a genius


also i know what menso means im half mexican.



Being half Mexican qualifies you as necessarily knowing Spanish about as much as being a member of MENSA qualifies you as necessarily being genius...which is not at all.



im in the top 1 percent


how am i not a genius again


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: leafing]
    #22040247 - 08/03/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Top 1% of anyone who has taken the test. Hardly 1% of the entire world.

There are people that have memorized the entire reference encyclopedia of NMRI spectrum peaks and can build one from scratch but they arent accounted for.

Then there is the whole debate over types of intelligence and the variability of test scores to add to the unreliability of that "1%"

All of this aside, mensa allows anyone in the top 2%. :lol:

Heres some quotes from other mensa members:

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Nautilus spoke with five present and former members of the society: Richard Hunter, a retired finance director at a drinks distributor; journalist Jack Williams; Bikram Rana, a director at a business consulting firm; LaRae Bakerink, a business consultant; and clinical hypnotist John Sheehan.

Together, they reflect on the meaning of genius, whether it can be measured, and what IQ has to do with it.

(RH = Richard Hunter, JW= Jack Williams, LB = LaRae Bakerink, BR = Bikram Rana, JS = John Sheehan)



Let’s start with the basics: Are you a genius?

RH: Ha! If you pass that test, all it proves is that you have a certain IQ. That is not the same as making you an intelligent person, never mind a genius. You can have a very high IQ and be a complete idiot.

BR: No! How different could I be from the 97th percentile? I think hard work is what really separates you from others. I don’t think you can be a genius without achievement. You know people at the very top work doubly as hard as 90 percent of people in the same profession. Take somebody like Cristiano Ronaldo. He probably works 20 hours more than someone who is outside the top-20 soccer players.

JW: I think being a Mensan means I’m good at logic, but that’s it. I don’t think I am worthy of the same term used to describe Einstein. Genius is moving something forward. Evolving.

JS: I don’t know. I’m not comfortable with saying I am a genius. I knew that the scores on my tests, very early in life, identified me as gifted. I finished high school at 14, and finished my undergraduate and graduate degree in college at 19.

LB: No. I think that’s kind of arrogant. I consider myself smarter than the average bear. I don’t look at myself as a genius. I think that’s because I see things other people have done, things they have created, discovered, or invented, and I look at those people in awe, because that’s not a capability I have. I have a really good memory and really excellent organizational ability, but I don’t consider those things genius. I see genius as creativity.




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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Toadstool5]
    #22321433 - 10/01/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Has anyone read the list of entities in the hyperspace lexicon.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Hyperspace_lexicon#Entities


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    #22324294 - 10/02/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Has anyone read the list of entities in the hyperspace lexicon.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Hyperspace_lexicon#Entities






I have....and the first time I read over that list I was quite surprised to see lots of the "entities" I've encountered were described exactly to the "T" on that last. I had these experiences/encounters before ever reading about the specific various entities that seem to be somewhat common occurrences.


"Flirty Fairies: They resemble traditional fairies and often actually have wings. Flirty Fairies can appear more "nymphish" as well. They are fluid and transforming... slowly pulsing with light at times, but generally hold the form of beautiful women who are overflowing with beauty and joy... so much so that they can barely stay within their skins. They squirm and pose, bat their eyelashes, wink and play in a nearly burlesque fashion... often stripping for you. An interesting note about them is that they even do this for heterosexual women. In fact, it doesn't seem to be sexually motivated, but rather an expression or flowering of their essential beautiful nature (essential nature - BEAUTY). "

I've had encounters with one of these "fairies" 3 times or so, it always felt like it was the same one...and she was always stoked to see me. That description above describes the appearance and demeanor exactly....I always felt a telepathic like communication with this one too, which I won't elaborate and go into as that'll be a long ramble.






Hyperspace Jesters: Could also be called Harlequins or fools. They truly resemble medieval jesters and harlequins... however, they are not silly or foolish in any way. They tend to be hyper-intelligent and might be the male versions of the Flirty Fairies. They have a fundamentally different nature that they are trying to show off, though. They like to show you things... objects. Often flashing Hyperspace tarot cards at you which, on their own, can impart reams of information to you when you look at them.


I've had one single encounter with a jester/trickster....another friend of mine has had a powerful experience/encounter with a jester like fellow from smoked DMT, and another friend of mine has had an encounter with a jester from inhaling nitrous oxide whilst on LSD.


Here's a real interesting post by Vaipen in regards to the jester/trickster archetype/entity....ideas of which can run parralel to the other arcehtypes/entites encountered from dmt and other psychedelics>>>>>



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DMT, Clowns, Jokers


Since the Jester seems real to others, I take this aspect to be real and whether or not it is a deity or an entity or some part of our own psyche or perhaps a cultural or psychological archetype, well, that is what we are trying to find out.


The Trickster can be found in mushrooms and DMT. And maybe in other psychedelics as well. If so, please report!

History



The Trickster or Jester has a long histoty in our culture and I would like to know if anyone can tell me how far back it goes. Wikipedia has some information and I'll bring a few things over because they seem to resonate with me. I'll quote:

"In literature, the jester is symbolic of common sense and of honesty, notably in King Lear, the court jester is a character used for insight and advice on the part of the monarch, taking advantage of his license to mock and speak freely to dispense frank observations and highlight the folly of his monarch. This presents a clashing irony as a "greater" man could dispense the same advice and find himself being detained in the dungeons or even executed. Only as the lowliest member of the court can the jester be the monarch's most useful adviser."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jester

So why does this strike me as important? It is the irony that is mentioned. A psychedelic experience is by default a personal one and it holds enigmatic visions or contemplative concepts. It is sometimes so strange it defies all logic and ratio. There can be reason in it, but often of a kind barely translatable to ordinary consciousness; what seems reasonable in the trip might end up being totally ridiculous after the trip.
So what is conveyed to you during the trip can be considered advice, like a Jester's advice to the King. It can be an idea, a thought, a contemplation, a vision, a reality or a theme, maybe a challenge. Or perhaps a trick, a puzzle, a daring or invitation to ponder or a game.

It seems that the lure of the Trickster that invites the participant to be engaged in the setup can only be done by a Trickster aspect. That is to say, because the Trickster is recognized as such (he is harmless albeit mischievous), the seriousness of the endeavor proposed by the Trickster has its sting removed. Then we are more likely to engage him and see what he is got, like a person asked to come on stage by an entertainer, wary that something is going to happen and that the laugh will be at their expense.

So only the Fool can convey the most serious of messages. And since we are the one to initiate the game as we enter into The Trickster's  realm of influence, we are the King, the one that is full of ego as he sits on his throne demanding respect and humility from his subjects. We bring this ego into the trip. And there we lose it fast at level 5 trips at least.



Psychology

It seems to me that King's were no fools, no pun intended. They must have been aware at some point that their shielded royal life made them prone to being quick to anger and that in fact, most of their status was but an empty tomfoolery for the masses and that their continuation always hung in the balance decided upon by the goodwill of the commoners. Yet they wielded the power over life and death and maybe somehow the appearance of the Jester at the King's Court was their own way of keeping a sense of humility.

And so the trip is the information exchange between the aspect and the King. We enter into it because we seek answers. I know some do not, but that doesn't mean the Trickster won't be present. A King might not want to hear the news, yet the Trickster is gonna give it regardless and he can get away with it.

So it is through this metaphor that we are addressed. The aspect reaches us. And I suspect that the Trickster has a specific sort of information and logic would suggest that it is those things we may not want to accept. We are literally being 'fooled' and trapped into a paradox of being King and sovereign over what we choose to accept and the Trickster who's mischievous message cannot be ignored.



Archetype

So let me go on with exploring this idea of the Jester archetype. If he lives within what is its origin? The Trickster seems to be a paradox. He is the wise fool and it is sometimes hard to see when he is fool and when he is wise. He wears masks and dresses in bright primary colors.



Those colors remind me of the Echo Chamber I experienced but you could also associate it with the various mindscapes that we know, the bejeweled filigree patterns and streams. On non-breakthrough doses of DMT I can see how some objects start to show primary colored pinheads and I see that pre-peak on mushrooms as well, in that case as a 3D pervasion of my room, as in a matrix structure.

That the Jester wears such clothes hints to me at a deeply recognized and accepted truism about psychedelic experiences. So maybe the Jester is the aspect of the paradox, the one paradox that permeates all our most existential questions about the nature of reality and our own self-reflective consciousness. This is the haunting question that has followe mankind since the dawm of this self-awareness. That life is a trick, perpetrated by our own minds in its relation to the cosmos.

Therefore within the trip when we meet the Jester we are reminded not to believe anything we take for granted. that life is, as Buddhists call it, Maya, a form of illusion but one that does serve a purpose. Alan Watts talked a lot about Zen Buddhism and how life is a play. We can make many assumptions about life and reality but to be in the world is to have a great opportunity to explore ones' self-awareness and, basically, have a laugh. There is no need to over-complicate things, suggest the Jester, so he shows us tongue-in-cheeck that what we know about reality should be taken with a big grain of salt.

During the tip all barriers dissolve, that is what T. McKenna used to say, it dissolves boundaries. And so also the boundaries that normally shield us from the mad recognition that our ego's are rampaging around within us and doing us little good if we attempt to understand reality.

It is the same notion that we know from sages and guru's and other such so called 'enlightened' people. They seem to have a sense of humor. Because they know that with all our science and religion and ideologies we simply fail to see how easy things really are. And yet at the same time we complicate life so much that we scarcely can find a way back into our intuitive understanding. Alan Watts once mentioned that perhaps our consciousness is not so much a gift and that to keep things simple, like some animals in the wild would seem to be doing is actually a very enlightened way to be. In that respect, traditional cultures maybe smarter.

And those cultures still have shamans.

And so in this way, the shaman in traditional cultures could be regarded as a form of Trickster. They may divine and heal and play this trick on people with such conviction and antics that the Fool becomes Wise in the sense that the patient gets healed as if by a miracle: the suggestive techniques a shaman knows from his visionary states provided him with the expertise and folly to be able to convincingly address disease and problems in his society and since he is the wise fool, the audience will recreate reality to the intend of the shaman. And since the shaman aims to heal, reality will start to reflect that as well.

There is no difference between being a fool and being wise. And that is why these enlightened people laugh. They laugh at their own folly but realize profoundly that the foolery is as much  necessary to be wise, that is to say, to go through the long path to wisdom and taking no shortcuts because doing so would push the wisdom farther ahead. That must be a humbling experience.



Entity

The Trickster speaks to us at a deep (sub)conscious level. It seems so for me. :laugh: To meet him is to contact our human psyche and by no means does that mean it isn't a true deity or entity. If it lives inside us it is alive in a separate reality from our own. If this aspect is not of our own psyche, then surely the intelligence that it is must encompass has a relationship with our species. Perhaps in this case, the very idea or notion of 'trickery' found us when we first started to explore entheogens, back in the caves of between 30.000 and perhaps a 100.000 years ago, when we showed up on its radar.

Trickery might be an aspect of nature itself as well, because trickery is that evolutionary trait that allows a species to fool the hunter, so the prey may escape. In this case this entity is part of the Gaian Mind Or Anima Mundi. That too does not necessarily make it unreal.

But if our early ancestors became aware and became entrapped in the self-reflective state we are all in, using entheogens and explored trance states through singing, rhythmic dancing and so on and so forth, they opened up a doorway to an extra-dimensional intelligence and that by its own nature the Trickster has become embedded as an archetype within our minds. So the Trickster is the trickster because that is what it is to itself. It is not our perception or delusion in relation te reality, not a facet of our ability of humor and our self-reflective ability to observe our own folly.  No, in this case the Trickster is an entity that shaped our understanding and inserted itself in our psyche and plays the role of itself.



Mythology

This also strikes me as important:

"Many native traditions held clowns and tricksters as essential to any contact with the sacred. People could not pray until they had laughed, because laughter opens and frees from rigid preconception. Humans had to have tricksters within the most sacred ceremonies for fear that they forget the sacred comes through upset, reversal, surprise. The trickster in most native traditions is essential to creation, to birth."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickster

There is a lot of information on myth in relation to the Trickster. A worthy read surely. It is the word 'scared' here I wish to point at. In my Echo Chamber experience there is a sense of dpeth and sacredness. I think this is the original source of sacredness. When our ancestors gained access to these experiences they found this 'place' and encountered for the first time this particular feeling. It is a wonderful feeling. But think about for a moment what sacrednesses is and what it comes out of. We associate it in various ways, with religion, nature very special phenomenon or events that have great meaning to us. But this feeling must at some point have been unknown to our race.

So for us it is normal to have the feeling of sacredness, we can easily assign it. The first people to enter into a trance or trip and find this Echo Chamber, found the very first spark of what would turn out to be every religious and spiritual exploration of our species. They came down and discussed it and before language had even arrived, maybe they looked into each other's  eyes and saw that feeling reflected.













Circus Ringleaders: Not at all aloof like the Genii, these guys are all about showmanship. They are very much like the archetypal circus ringleader... often with coat and tails and a ridiculously cool top hat to boot. They may even have a baton, wand or fancy cane they use to direct your attention to one or another of Hyperspace's awesome vistas or announce a show being put on for your entertainment. They are shamelessly promotional, but like the other natives of Hyperspace... they are also hyper-intelligent, telepathic, and frankly miraculous.

I've ran into a ringleader like fella on one occasion, I describe that expereince as well as my enconter with the jester/trickster in this post>>>

DMT, Clowns, Jokers





Mother Goddess
A huge, bright, female goddess. Might be identified with Isis, or Mother Mary, yet transcending identification with these earthly identifications. Bright, really bright light, caring, loving, caressing all pain and all tears.

Two occasions that I've encountered what I can only describe as pure loving motherly presence...I could feel her swimming through my body and caressing every fiber of my being....Basically just as the description above.




Gods & Goddesses:
These beings actually do resemble various cultural archetypal godheads. There are Hindu, Egyptian, Mayan, Celtic, African and plenty of un-recognizable types.

I've seen what I can only describe as a hindu goddess of sorts, on a few occasions. As well as "egyptian-like" gods.






I've also had encounters, recently, with two (or maybe it was just one that kept splitting into multiple forms) "machine like things" that were moving around me quickly in playful sort of way, they were making audible chattering and clicking sounds as they moved around me....they were like "machine clowns" :smirk: , if I had to describe em' as something .


I don't know what to think of these experiences, I don't have any firm beliefs in anything and just keep an open observant mind about it all...some interesting food for thought, that's for sure. I also have many experiences with running into other entities during sleep paralysis and out of body type experiences that are catalyzed from SP....So not all of my entity encounters are "drug" induced.







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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: openmind]
    #22340141 - 10/06/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

http://dreamflesh.com/essays/clownpath/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heyoka

http://fractalenlightenment.com/25726/spirituality/the-path-of-the-sacred-clown-where-trickster-and-shaman-converge


This archetype has always intrigued me. Teaching through irony that life is not serious and should never be taken any more seriously than death. Death is guaranteed. Life isn't guaranteed beyond this moment of now.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: nuentoter]
    #22348713 - 10/08/15 05:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I read a book on crazy wisdom and it wasn't that crazy (in your third article) seemed more like the no thinking of zen, wasn't joker like but the Heyoka sound intriguing.


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    #22354705 - 10/09/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm curious as to whether the entities inhabit the mind or if the mind interjects itself into the entities world. The dmt user is the one taking the action and changing things (at least on their end) so what it these entities are going forward with their normal existence and the use of things like DMT interjects us into their life/mind and not vice versa.


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    #22361963 - 10/11/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm curious as to whether the entities inhabit the mind or if the mind interjects itself into the entities world. The dmt user is the one taking the action and changing things (at least on their end) so what it these entities are going forward with their normal existence and the use of things like DMT interjects us into their life/mind and not vice versa.




This is I think the most natural conclusion.

I think a Zen monk would say they were already in the mind but I agree with your action point of view, we change into it's environment from ours.


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    #22368388 - 10/12/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Possible broadening of our natural energetic antennas spectrum. This aligns with my personal belief that things like yoga poses change the shape and alignment of this antennae we call or body.


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: motaman]
    #22645951 - 12/12/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Here's another video and of course check out the related videos. This one is entitled Discarnate Entities in the DMT Realm:


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: dwnlw2slw]
    #22660119 - 12/15/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Damn, I need to try DMT :lol:


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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Magicman69]
    #22669584 - 12/17/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Two new books worth picking up if one is inclined to read about DMT research:

Mystery School in Hyperspace: A cultural History of DMT (2015)

Im a quarter of the way into this. Very well researched and a lot of stuff I didn't know or hadn't considered ( And I've read a lot on the subject). Great read.

Neurotransmissions: Essays on Psychedelics from break convention (2015)

Massive about of interesting stuff that can be read in short chunks because of the format. Andrew R Gillmore has fascinating essays at the beginning and end of the book on DMT.


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