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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Konyap]
#21993793 - 07/25/15 05:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Reality" doesn't get discerned or seperated from perception most of the time. They are both malleable concept dependant upon each individual. External multidimensional beings being percieved on a different wavelength which becomes accessible when we overload on dmt? Or internal personifications of personal multidimension thought processes returning from their quantum state of iteration and seeming outside of ourselves because of their unfamiliarity or because they are shielded from being realized as existing within your own personal construct of reality, shielded by the ego to protect.
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: nuentoter] 1
#21994419 - 07/25/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://gizmodo.com/oh-god-someone-ran-fear-and-loathing-through-googles-n-1716036990
After this new wave of googles neural network.. We have to start questioning things.
Why does this look like DMT land or the LSD overlay?
Are we really encountering beings? Going to strange lands?
Our brain's are very magical. I am convinced that we can just see all the layers that it takes to create our world. When we are in altered states, we are in direct communication with our brain and anything it creates.
This is why it feels so fucking real... We are going somewhere in our own mind. That's why the beings seem to know you, everything you did.. IT IS YOU. It does know everything about you and what you did wrong and how to fix you.
This all ties back into my post about how building the brain is not the best idea and how we form our own thoughts.
We run simulations for EVERYTHING in our small super computer that is more powerful than all the computational power on the planet. It is capable of creating an entire universe just because you want to go to the store. This means, If you want to go to the store, your brain run's a simulation for every possible outcome and creates a whole new universe just to give you a or many answers.
Now, when are dive our own mind with DMT or other forms of compounds or life threatening situations, we are then pulled into these simulations our brain creates to deal with every day life.
You are indeed a dream within a dream..
I am overly convinced with all my encounters now that there really isn't anything special about this world or the drugs in them.. We really are trapped forever.
You never met god, you never seen an alien.. You have met yourself and have made up a simulation with aliens in it... It's just not real.
Another post of mine having to do with this topic:
Once you understand what Sam is communicating, you can then extrapolate that those thoughts have to be being made from somewhere for us to select from.
Those process that are making the pre-selected thoughts are actually simulations that our brain runs to figure out all possible future outcomes, then gives us the pre-selection. This means, to get those choices that you pick from, when ever you encounter something that needs an answer, your brain runs simulations to get you those answers. It is then those answers that you pick from, giving the freedom of free will and choice.
It is these simulations that we get lost in during the DMT flash.. It is where you can meet god or anything your mind wants to create..
These simulations ALWAYS have a purpose, so of course so do our experiences..
The line above explains it all. If our simulations always get made to find an answer, so does to that these simulations always have meaning. It is just another illusion that we are having problems identifying with. Since you are creating these worlds and lets say you decide to drink some DMT and cappi.
You can go into places that seem like they take 50 years, or meet beings that can heal you because they know you.
It did take 50 years and you did meet a being that could heal you.. They just are not coming from outside this universe or dimension, they are coming from your own brain and they are ALWAYS.. I REPEAT ALLLLLLWWWAAAAAYS TEMPORARY and presented to the user in a way nobody else can.. Because it's their brain.
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: MikeBearPig]
#21994544 - 07/25/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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just looking for something positive
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: motaman]
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Edited by openmind (07/26/15 05:37 PM)
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: FlyOnTheWall] 1
#21996659 - 07/25/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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With DMT and 5meo-DMT, it would behoove probably behoove everyone to find their minimum operative dose. Supposedly, with those the MOP for actually being able to recall anything at all from the experience could vary to within a single milligram, so getting a scale that can measure that might be a good idea.
BTW I've smoked DMT once 7 years ago, and it remains the single most "impressive" experience of my life. I felt as if a kind of veil had been lifted and I was suddenly able to perceive a reality that was more real than our consensual reality that we're all so familiar with. There was a sense of a (or at least one) benevolent intelligence vastly superior to ours. This state, somehow ego-less in that your "earth ID," occupation, body, etc, are of little significance if not meaningless, which really starts at level 4, and yet "I" was still "me" with full awareness of my limited thinking style and personality remaining intact... This and yet able to "sense" large numbers of objects and other impressions and sensations simultaneously in a way that is not a dumbed-down version of perceiving, delusions of grandeur, ego-inflation inebriation usually associated with alcohol and opiates.
I believe that rather than expecting conclusive answers to questions such as in the title of this thread any time in the near future, these experiences give us more than enough reason to at least suspect that not only might there be more "out there" than we can perceive and everything that we do pick up on is filtered through a tiny pinhole, but perhaps these trips might even be mere indicators of the inconceivable and ineffable.
I also believe that a basic awareness of a sort of fundamental backdrop of emptiness being the non-essence of ultimate reality is useful in not getting too wrapped up in the perceptual, whether drug-induced or "not."
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: dwnlw2slw]
#21996758 - 07/25/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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dwnlw2slw said: With DMT and 5meo-DMT, or it would behoove probably behoove everyone to find their minimum operative dose. Supposedly, with those the MOP for actually beyond able to recall anything at all from the experience could vary to within a single milligram, so getting a scale that can measure that might be a good idea.
BTW I've smoked DMT once 7 years ago, and it remains the single most "impressive" experience of my life. I felt as if a kind of veil had been lifted and I was suddenly able to perceive a reality that was more real than our consensual reality that we're all so familiar with. There was a sense of a (or at least) benevolent intelligence vastly superior to ours. This state, somehow ego-less in that your "earth ID," occupation, body, etc, are of little significance if not meaningless, which really starts at level 4, and yet "I" was still "me" with full awareness of my limited thinking style and personality remaining intact... This and yet able to "sense" large numbers of objects and other impressions and sensations simultaneously in a way that is not a dumbed-down version of perceiving, delusions of grandeur, ego-inflation inebriation usually associated with alcohol and opiates.
I believe that rather than expecting conclusive answers to questions such as in the title of this thread any time in the near future, these experiences give is more than enough reason to at least suspect that not only might there be more "out there" than we can perceive and everything that we do pick up on is filtered through a tiny pinhole, but perhaps these trips might even be merely indicators of the inconceivable and ineffable.
I also believe that a basic awareness of a sort of fundamental backdrop of emptiness being the non-essence of ultimate reality is useful in not getting too wrapped up in the level perceptual, whether drug-induced or "not."
talk like this makes me think the DMT experience is somehow connected to virtual reality.
And mckenna's DMT trip reports where DMT entities "sing" objects into existence and try to get terence mckenna to do it too.
Its almost like our unconscious mind is exposing us to the impending mindfuck to be brought on by sophisticated virtual realities.
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21999081 - 07/26/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You experience psychosis enough times you kind of understand how changes in brain chemistry can completely reshape your reality. It's a fucking drug... You want to see how it looks at the negative end of the spectrum stay up for 4 days smoking PCP and taking amphetamines, you will see crazier shit than you would during a DMT trip. Why is that not equally as magical? You aren't seeing the truth, you are seeing a distorted reality. Even when I smoked massive quantities of DMT I thought the whole religious aspect of breaking through was extremely far fetched. It's like everything humans experience that they don't have the capacity to truly understand they throw the label 'God' onto it. It's not god, it's all in your head...
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: fapjack]
#21999804 - 07/26/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i'm MENSA
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From the Spanish,menso m. (feminine mensa, masculine plural mensos, feminine plural mensas)
1.(offensive, Mexico, Central America) foolish, dull 2.(offensive, Mexico, Central America) distracted, absent-minded 3.(offensive, Mexico) ignorant 4.(offensive, Mexico) inexpert 5.(offensive, Mexico) timid, shy 6.(offensive, Mexico) ingenuous, naive
My uncle's in mensa too, doesnt mean you are intelligent. Well-trained in arithmetic and tests yes but to state that membership qualifies you as smart is comical.
Sorry to flame but i hate when people drop their membership at a social club as a status of superiority. If you want to do that, join a country club.
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: fapjack] 1
#22000250 - 07/26/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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fapjack said: It's like everything humans experience that they don't have the capacity to truly understand they throw the label 'God' onto it. It's not god, it's all in your head...
You could say the same thing about people who don't understand the concept of god and look down everyone who believes these things they can't understand.
Depending on your understanding of "god" yes he is in our heads, you could say he is our heads and we are it.
Of course that is all just opinion/ theory. But I know that, I try to stay open minded to other possibilities though no matter how far out they seem.
Quantum psychics is slowly proving things that are very far out and hard to grasp can be backed by science so who knows.
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: musiclover420]
#22000698 - 07/26/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think an interdimentional entity took a dump on NB`s wheaties
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: travelleler]
#22002107 - 07/26/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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yea... no because if the entities are in another universe they couldn't also be in this universe where our brains are.
fuckin dumb.
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: SurReality]
#22002115 - 07/26/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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wow NB is in here, didn't realize he was still around. of course you would post here if you were active :P
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: SurReality]
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subbed. high interest for me. will be back!
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: refried]
#22003202 - 07/27/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think the mind is an interesting entity, much more interesting than the concept of god is. To better understand it requires research. Labeling something as god's work isn't productive to better understanding the human condition or the brain. I mean all of these beliefs really wouldn't be that hard to test in a controlled setting.
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: fapjack]
#22007074 - 07/27/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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control is an illusion..
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: SurReality]
#22007369 - 07/27/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're an illusion
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: travelleler]
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: fapjack]
#22008495 - 07/28/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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fapjack said: Drugs can be really interesting sometimes, as can the delusions they create. I've broken through a fair number of times, seen some pretty interesting shit. I've also had some really interesting experiences while I was dreaming. At the end of the day though, it's all just your brain experiencing changes in it's biochemistry. The drug isn't doing anything special, your brain is.
People talk about DMT being special for 'showing you ultimate reality' any psychedelic can do it for me, feels like a veil has been lifted sometimes
25i-nbome does it, lsd does it, shrooms do it
salvia doesn't quite do it, but slightly, you get beauty on every object and a sense of being in many dimensions at once , just no God thoughts / god control of reality - reality controls you
25i,lsd,shrooms can be much like a lucid dream, where you wake up in your reality
this is not real... i must be dreaming
we could be living our whole lives in a dream
(I don't think DMT is more special than any of the other ones, lsd /shrooms seem to do exactly the same thing as each other for me - often a very spiritual experience and realizations , they look like natural brian dmt and may be able to unlock the brain. Now the question is if it is safe to unlock the mind.... not for everyone. You may unlock the spiritual potential of the universe and become debilitated for life. You might not be ready this lifetime)
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: Toadstool5]
#22016477 - 07/29/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i'm MENSA
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From the Spanish,menso m. (feminine mensa, masculine plural mensos, feminine plural mensas)
1.(offensive, Mexico, Central America) foolish, dull 2.(offensive, Mexico, Central America) distracted, absent-minded 3.(offensive, Mexico) ignorant 4.(offensive, Mexico) inexpert 5.(offensive, Mexico) timid, shy 6.(offensive, Mexico) ingenuous, naive
My uncle's in mensa too, doesnt mean you are intelligent. Well-trained in arithmetic and tests yes but to state that membership qualifies you as smart is comical.
Sorry to flame but i hate when people drop their membership at a social club as a status of superiority. If you want to do that, join a country club. 
by definition it does mean i smart seeing as how it qualifies me as a genius
also i know what menso means im half mexican.
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Re: Do Entities From Another Universe Inhabit the Brains of Psychedelic DMT Users? [Re: leafing]
#22016674 - 07/29/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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by definition it does mean i smart seeing as how it qualifies me as a genius
 Ok kanye
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