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I got myself a eGo e-cig. It's actually pretty good hey i've only had a couple of goes on friends ones before. I really dig it actually. Not trying to quit smoking just want something to smoke that won't cost me so fucking much money because smokes are like $25+ a pack here in Oz.
Couple of Q's
My battery is an 1100mAh battery. Is there one I can buy that lasts longer than this? I chain it pretty hard
also
I got grape flavour and vanilla. grape is pretty good, no nicotine in it though. what's the nicotine shit like? is it good?
i can't believe how much of a culture there is around it
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
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you gotta go to a vape show and try every flavor, no way you're gonna find flavors you like by randomly buying shit online.
do yourself a favor and get something decent to start out with. I fucked around for like a year using shitty ecigs that constantly broke.
eleaf istick 20w is pretty darn cheap and should last a little while. I use a nautilus mini tank, tho i don't know what other people think of that.
i recently upgraded my battery to a sigelei 30w and got 2 batteries, each battery lasts over a day so thats pretty nice.
Also don't vape while its plugged in... no one told me that but i guess it fucks up cheaper batteries.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
#21983205 - 07/23/15 05:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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For sure go to local shops, they will have sample setups where you can try all sorts of flavors. I started with an eGO setup as well and used it and all sorts of various tanks and other ego batteries for a good 2 years. Used it to quit smoking with 100% sucess, something I've never been able to go longer then 6 months to a year at the longest stretch any other way.
For me, flavors start to taste funny after you smoke them for a while, but the grape I get from mtbakervapor is the only one that doesnt. At worst when I get to used to it, it just becomes sort of flavorless, like how you dont really 'taste' cigs anymore as you smoke throughout the day.
So I buy big ass bottles of that flavor and use it pretty much exclusively. Some people like to switch flavors a lot. Since I use tank setups that can get pretty wasteful as once you use a carto/coil with a flavor it tends not to do so well with a new flavor. So you end up throwing the damn things away when they are not really burnt out yet, all becuse they got gunked up with some flavor you dont like anymore...
I suggest you try real hard to quit the cigs while your using it. It will make the transition way fucking easy, and your body and lungs will thank you very quickly. Not to mention the stuff ejuice is made out of is actually a well known well tested anti-microbial so I get sick WAY less then I used to wh en I smoked, and just in general. I dont think I've been sick with even a cold in almost 2 years now.
As for the battery. the bigger the mAH the bigger charge it holds and the longer it lasts. However, eGO batteries do tend to be on the 'cheap' end of the ecig quality scale. So even if you find some big ass ego battery, if it doesnt have replacable batteries in it you can remove yourself like 18650's or 18350's, etc, then it will hold less and less of a charge pretty quickly and you can expect to have to buy another one. Especially if you are a heavy user. I switched both my G/F and I over to bigger setups use 18650 batteries specifically because of this reason. I got sick of every few months having to buy a new ego battery because the old one would only be useful when plugged in with its passthru cable. Now if my battery is going to shit I just put in a different one, and keep the same case/electronics/etc.
Hobby can get expensive if you let it turn you into a hobbyest nerd, be warned. It took me a long time and lots of buying different types and styles to find what I really liked, but now that I've found it I'm content and only buy the replacement atomizers and juice when I run low. But I have a nice little box on my nightstand with like 80 juices in it, shit tons of different tanks and drip tips and old batteries and adapters and fucking everything. Its silly.
There is an eciog subforum, but mostly its all the die hard hobbists who wrap their own coils and silly stuff like that.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: mndfreeze]
#21983215 - 07/23/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm not going to make a thing of it. I literally just smoke too many ciggies and it's expensive so i thought fuck it. I'm not going to make it a 'hobby' or anything. one flavour thats nice will suit me fine and a good battery is all I really want.
so flavoured nicotine, brand recommendations? can i buy it off the net? We don't really have "eCig" stores here where I live. tobacconists just have like a box with maybe a dozen or 20 flavours. we don't have full on stores like you do in the US
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
#21983247 - 07/23/15 06:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh, actually i don't recommend the naut mini, the fucking coils burn out in like dayz. get a rebuildable tank and learn to rebuild it.
If ur gonna start using an e-cig, just make the switch and stop smokign. You're gonna feel like 100x healthier in 2 weeks, and its waaaaaaaay fucking cheaper in the long run. Maybe a nice battery and tank will be like 80$ online. Then its like maybe 20$ a week for juice (on the high end).
people super into it are gonna tell u to get crazy high power and blah blah blah, not necessary. 20w-30w, 1.6-1.8ohm coils are just fine.
i dunno what to say about the flavors, i like maybe 1 in 30 flavors i try, i can't imagine buying them randomly.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: teamkiller]
#21983253 - 07/23/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here, for the battery buy this shit, its great for the price: http://vapenw.com/istick-30w-by-eleaf
mine broke in like 3 months, but by then hopefully ull be addicted to vaping and be willing to get something nice.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: teamkiller]
#21983270 - 07/23/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I love my nautilus. I dont have the mini though, I have the regular one. My coils last fucking ages so not sure why your's dont. Perhaps its the rest of your rig?
And you dont even need 20w. I never seem to go higher then 10 to 12 on my evic pro with nautilus 1.6 coils.
OP, I order from mtbakervapor. They have really good prices on their juice and you can order it in big ass bottles so you dont need to be ordering a new bottle all the damn time.
You should try their grape and see if you like it, and if you do and after smoking it for a while so you're sure you do like it for constant use, buy one of the 236ml bottles they sell. You can pick the level of nicotine. If you are a pack a day smoker or more you probably will want 18mg. I did 24 when I frst started but I did it to QUIT cigs so I had to get that extra edge to keep me from picking up a pack. I'm at 12 now and it seems a good level.
You also can add more 'flavor shots' to the juice you order, so if you want it to be a stronger 'grape' you can pick 1 to 5 extra shots so a small fee. like 25 cents or some shit.
My local shops charge a shit ton for juice, which is why I suggest you try some online places samples or small orders and then use them. I pay about 40 bucks for my 236ml bottle. Local shops seem to charge 15 to 20$ for just a stupid 15ml bottle, some maybe will do a 30ml bottle for that much. Crazy expensive.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: mndfreeze]
#21983316 - 07/23/15 06:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i have a natalus mini lasted okay but a coil burnt up. then i replaced it with another that came free with it. but now im getting really tight draws and cleaning isnt helping
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
#21983330 - 07/23/15 06:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: Sanguin3]
#21983337 - 07/23/15 06:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I used to use an Aerotank and eventually the threads got soo stripped I can't even use it anymore
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stuckinwonderland said: i have a natalus mini lasted okay but a coil burnt up. then i replaced it with another that came free with it. but now im getting really tight draws and cleaning isnt helping
how old is the coil? You should be replacing them every 2 to 3 weeks on average. I've had some last 2 months and every great now and then one that burns up in a week, but compared to most other coils/cartos/ a few weeks is a long time.
If you smoke a really dark juice they are known to 'gunk up' more often and on a regular basis. vs a clear juice.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: mndfreeze]
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Like i said, i'm using the naut BVC coils and they burn out stupidly fast, i just changed my battery and everything and its definitely just poor quality. I change them out every 4-7 days.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
#21983554 - 07/23/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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indica said: i can't believe how much of a culture there is around it
Yeah. Too much "culture" for my liking. I really couldn't be bothered to learn all the jargon that goes with it.
Don't you have an NHS type health service over there in oz, like we do in the UK...and the rest of the civilised world, You know, communisticated, or whatever the fuck some US retards might call it?
You could ask at your doctors to see if they run a 'smoking cessation clinic'. I gave up a ~40year smoking habit overnight after being prescribed these>
by my doc.
May not have the cool image and geek appeal of the e-cig, with it's great billowing clouds of vapour, but they are not as likely to be targeted by the lawmakers for a public ban either.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: deucedbi9]
#21983669 - 07/23/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fuck the lawmakers
I'll keep vaping like a madman even if they do make it illegal because how the fuck can they ban vegetable glycerin, nicotine and food flavorings?
You people who talk shit on vaping piss me off because this is a legit way to quit smoking it has helped so many people already and will continue to help people but when ignorant people run their mouth about shit they don't understand it doesn't help the cause
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: teamkiller]
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teamkiller said: Like i said, i'm using the naut BVC coils and they burn out stupidly fast, i just changed my battery and everything and its definitely just poor quality. I change them out every 4-7 days.
They are not designed to handle 20 to 30 watt. Maybe that's the issue. Think the Atlantis, their sub ohm setup, is for that. If it was just a qaulity issue then I'd have probs too, but other then the oddball one I get many weeks to months even. I use an evic pro in vw mode at 10 to 12 watt.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: mndfreeze]
#21983736 - 07/23/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i use them at 7-9 watts
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: teamkiller]
#21983743 - 07/23/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should get a Subtank Mini with a rebuildable atomizer section
You would save so much money on coils and it would definitely be a better vape
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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OhMrJohnson said: Fuck the lawmakers
I'll keep vaping like a madman even if they do make it illegal because how the fuck can they ban vegetable glycerin, nicotine and food flavorings?
You people who talk shit on vaping piss me off because this is a legit way to quit smoking it has helped so many people already and will continue to help people but when ignorant people run their mouth about shit they don't understand it doesn't help the cause
What the fuck do you not understand about "how can they". They fucking can. End of. All they got to do is vote against it as they allready have in some countries. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-33025872 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_electronic_cigarettes
If e-cigs are banned it will, in no small part, be due to the geeks and their billowing clouds of vapour in public spaces 'scaring the horses' that caused it. I don't give a shit as I'll keep sucking on my nicotine teet (inhalator) as they escort you from the premises.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: deucedbi9]
#21984082 - 07/23/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh no... the nanny state UK banned vaping in enclosed public spaces..... whatever will we do? Aren't they also trying to ban knives Also, that's regulation... not a ban. Big fucking difference.
My work lets us vape at our desk - in a professional office setting. Because they realize it doesn't foul the air and isn't full of carcinogens like cigarette smoke and polled the non smokers and it doesn't bother anyone. Some people have common sense. Vaping might get more tightly regulated eventually.. but get banned completely?
How the fuck do you propose they are going to "ban" ecigs? Just like they banned drugs, right? And we all know how drugs have been completely eradicated from society. They are going to ban vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol, which is used in fucking everything? Nicotine can be sourced just about anywhere. If not, you can extract your own. Food based flavorings are going nowhere. Those are the only components of ejuice. More senseless fear mongering.
Just shut the fuck up about your geeks billowing clouds of vapor. That is worse than people smoking cigarettes with their 800+ chemicals and 25+ known carcinogens... how exactly? Cigarettes kill millions of people a year.. I don't see you saying cigarettes are going to be banned because of the geeks blowing their clouds of toxic smoke.
Use your nicotine inhalers if you like, no one was talking shit about your inhalers. But don't start talking shit about ecigs, fucker. It saves lives and is a far more effective means of getting people to stop smoking cigarettes than any other alternative method.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: teamkiller]
#21984148 - 07/23/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: eleaf istick 20w is pretty darn cheap and should last a little while. I use a nautilus mini tank, tho i don't know what other people think of that.
This is what I would recommend for entry level unit that isn't a mech mod. Mech mods are the way to go though. But in the end, I had to give up vaping because it felt like an adult pacifier. Nothing against it though for those that need the nicotine or want to quit smoking.
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Nah regulated box mods are the way to go... far safer than mechs.. more options.. variable wattage/voltage. Mechs are nice and all but a good regulated box mod is far superior IMO.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: Shroomism]
#21984329 - 07/23/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree with you there. That's really what I meant, my terminology is a little rusty. I was mainly referring to mechanical RDA's and manually coil builds. My mech tube is great, never failed on me but I do agree, the additional options, regulated power, and safety features are a better choice.
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it feels weird smoking in pubs and shit again
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
#21988390 - 07/24/15 02:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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so there's a lot of websites that wont ship to AU
FUck this gay country fucking fuck
where can Aussies get some decent juice? I got some mtbakervape but thats all i coud get so far
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
#21988416 - 07/24/15 02:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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www.mechsauce.com ships to Australia. It's real good juice for very cheap.
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cheers man any flavours you recommend?
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
#21988600 - 07/24/15 05:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So far I haven't had any that I dislike, but my favorite is the "galaxy guts". It's a raspberry cheesecake & it's amazing.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
#21988618 - 07/24/15 06:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those dodgy Asian tobacco shops usually sell crackies too
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: Soulidarity]
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Yeah apparently the dodgy asian shit is really fucking bad for you
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
#21988945 - 07/24/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's not just Asian stuff, there's no regulation of any components of e-cigs whatsoever. There could (literally) be anything in them.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: badchad]
#21988973 - 07/24/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well it's a good thing you can make your own juice and know exactly what's in it
Just because there's no regulation in place doesn't mean all the people/companies selling these products aren't professionals who take their shit seriously
I'm sure there are some sketchy vendors and devices but that certainly doesn't go for the whole industry I'm tired of you playing that card
Regulation would do nothing but fuck up the market that has been created or possibly drive it underground
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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OhMrJohnson said: Well it's a good thing you can make your own juice and know exactly what's in it
Just because there's no regulation in place doesn't mean all the people/companies selling these products aren't professionals who take their shit seriously
Assuming you ordered your own nicotine, PG etc. How would you know anything about its purity or manufacturing processes?
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: badchad]
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Because the companies that sell nicotine, PG, VG, et cetera are PROFESSIONALS
If you simply ask them they are more than willing to send you gas chromatography data on any of their products, at least they will if they take their business seriously
You assume that these companies are all being shady and lieing about what they are selling to people, which may be true of certain companies but definitely not all of them
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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You assume that these companies are all being shady and lieing about what they are selling to people, which may be true of certain companies but definitely not all of them
That isn't my assumption at all.
So you're saying "responsible" companies will provide GC/MS data, but a regulation to require this (and to prove that the data are legitimate) is too much of a burden?
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: badchad]
#21989914 - 07/24/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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in the US they just passed regulation FDA that will severely limit available juices and put lots of businesses under.
for now, i recommend the kanger subox mini and 3mg nicotine juice. i've had the nautilus tanks bvc coils, etc. but i wouldn't go back after using the subox mini.
i like the more expensive juices but that's because i came from mountbaker and think their juice is pretty cheap/shitty. i do, however, buy as much of my tanks and parts and gear from MBV. great prices.
personal favorites are as follows:
mother's milk colossus MILK (not sure the brand) and a local maker here has Horchata that I think is great.
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: refried]
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Source?
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#21991764 - 07/24/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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the article i read is from the WSJ which has a paywall, but I'm sure you can find another story on it:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10130211234592774869404581088451777513530
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: refried]
#21991829 - 07/24/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i looked at the thing the fda published, its just about requring warnings and labels for nicotine.
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/TobaccoProducts/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation/UCM453226.pdf
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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: teamkiller]
#21992538 - 07/24/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah, tht's not what the article says.
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