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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: teamkiller]
    #21984148 - 07/23/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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eleaf istick 20w is pretty darn cheap and should last a little while.  I use a nautilus mini tank, tho i don't know what other people think of that.




This is what I would recommend for entry level unit that isn't a mech mod. Mech mods are the way to go though. But in the end, I had to give up vaping because it felt like an adult pacifier. Nothing against it though for those that need the nicotine or want to quit smoking.


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: daytripper05]
    #21984150 - 07/23/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nah regulated box mods are the way to go... far safer than mechs.. more options.. variable wattage/voltage. Mechs are nice and all but a good regulated box mod is far superior IMO.


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: Shroomism]
    #21984329 - 07/23/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with you there. That's really what I meant, my terminology is a little rusty. I was mainly referring to mechanical RDA's and manually coil builds. My mech tube is great, never failed on me but I do agree, the additional options, regulated power, and safety features are a better choice.


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: daytripper05]
    #21988329 - 07/24/15 02:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

it feels weird smoking in pubs and shit again


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
    #21988390 - 07/24/15 02:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

so there's a lot of websites that wont ship to AU

FUck this gay country fucking fuck

where can Aussies get some decent juice? I got some mtbakervape but thats all i coud get so far


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
    #21988416 - 07/24/15 02:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

www.mechsauce.com ships to Australia.  It's real good juice for very cheap.


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #21988438 - 07/24/15 03:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

cheers man
any flavours you recommend?


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
    #21988600 - 07/24/15 05:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So far I haven't had any that I dislike, but my favorite is the "galaxy guts".  It's a raspberry cheesecake & it's amazing.


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
    #21988618 - 07/24/15 06:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Those dodgy Asian tobacco shops usually sell crackies too :themoreyouknow:


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: Soulidarity]
    #21988636 - 07/24/15 06:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah apparently the dodgy asian shit is really fucking bad for you


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: indica]
    #21988945 - 07/24/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's not just Asian stuff, there's no regulation of any components of e-cigs whatsoever.  There could (literally) be anything in them.


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: badchad]
    #21988973 - 07/24/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well it's a good thing you can make your own juice and know exactly what's in it

Just because there's no regulation in place doesn't mean all the people/companies selling these products aren't professionals who take their shit seriously

I'm sure there are some sketchy vendors and devices but that certainly doesn't go for the whole industry I'm tired of you playing that card

Regulation would do nothing but fuck up the market that has been created or possibly drive it underground


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21989007 - 07/24/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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OhMrJohnson said:
Well it's a good thing you can make your own juice and know exactly what's in it

Just because there's no regulation in place doesn't mean all the people/companies selling these products aren't professionals who take their shit seriously





Assuming you ordered your own nicotine, PG etc. How would you know anything about its purity or manufacturing processes?


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: badchad]
    #21989028 - 07/24/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Because the companies that sell nicotine, PG, VG, et cetera are PROFESSIONALS

If you simply ask them they are more than willing to send you gas chromatography data on any of their products, at least they will if they take their business seriously

You assume that these companies are all being shady and lieing about what they are selling to people, which may be true of certain companies but definitely not all of them


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21989106 - 07/24/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You assume that these companies are all being shady and lieing about what they are selling to people, which may be true of certain companies but definitely not all of them




That isn't my assumption at all.

So you're saying "responsible" companies will provide GC/MS data, but a regulation to require this (and to prove that the data are legitimate) is too much of a burden?


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: badchad]
    #21989914 - 07/24/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

in the US they just passed regulation FDA that will severely limit available juices and put lots of businesses under.

for now, i recommend the kanger subox mini and 3mg nicotine juice.  i've had the nautilus tanks bvc coils, etc. but i wouldn't go back after using the subox mini.

i like the more expensive juices but that's because i came from mountbaker and think their juice is pretty cheap/shitty.  i do, however, buy as much of my tanks and parts and gear from MBV.  great prices.

personal favorites are as follows:

mother's milk
colossus
MILK (not sure the brand)
and a local maker here has Horchata that I think is great.


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: refried]
    #21990078 - 07/24/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Source?


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21991764 - 07/24/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the article i read is from the WSJ which has a paywall, but I'm sure you can find another story on it:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10130211234592774869404581088451777513530


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: refried]
    #21991829 - 07/24/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i looked at the thing the fda published, its just about requring warnings and labels for nicotine.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/TobaccoProducts/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation/UCM453226.pdf


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Re: I joined the e-Cig thing [Re: teamkiller]
    #21992538 - 07/24/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, tht's not what the article says.


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