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Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test
    #21982651 - 07/22/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I figure some of you have probably had to go through this before, so I figure it's worth posting here too. I also posted in WCA @ ODD but I'm sure I'll get some other people to see it here..



I have the opportunity for a major job opportunity in my field that could last for several months at 7500$ + a month. Flights are paid (it's in a different province) and so are my accomodations and meals while there.

Unfortunately I have to do a urine test for this job. In my province, (ON), we don't require drug testing for my field of work yet.

Anyways, I have probably a good 3-4 weeks still to post in for the job as they require a lot of guys but - I have always had a really hard time quitting marijuana. I literally stopped using heroin again 4 weeks ago but I am already freaking out about not being able to toke.


I smoke several times a day (not much only a small bowl or so, maybe 0.2, 0.3 but many times a day) but I've also been doing a lot of dabs lately. I am not the lightest person either, medium build pretty big guy 250 lbs 6'2"

So I'd say I'm a decently heavy user

if anyone has tips on staying motivated to quit, getting my mind off smoking weed, what other drugs may help etc any useful info to help me out I would appreciate it. Maybe tips on the best detox methods you've heard of (I know I need to actually quit and the detox one day drinks are bullshit) but I have heard some theories of heavy exercise, and lots of fluid intakes, cranberry juices, etc, and then to load up on red meat the last  day or two before the test

Anyone with experience chime in!!


I'm going to a concert sunday and will likely end up smoking there but hoping after that I can start and do 3 weeks clean....maybe even 4 if thats going to be safer.

I also could  cheat the test I guess with the fake dick thing (whizinator) and some synthetic urine, though I don't know if it's supervised, and a fail of the test is a 500$ fine and I can't work in that province again without doing a drug rehabilitation course

I don't know why I always found marijuana very hard to quit. Some people say it's a breeze but for me it's quite the challenge

The drugs I have available to me right now:

GHB (though I am developing a huge tolerance and possibly a strong dependence on this as well) Gabapentin (lots of it), various Kratom strains (nearly a kilos worth, 4 different strains) aswell as various other drugs like Baclofen (muscle relaxant) and psychedelics (mdma, mda, LSD, 4-aco-met)

in about 5-6 days I'll have a bunch of ketamine but I go through it very quickly


Hoping to get off the alcohol too to help a bit with my weight, though I'm thinking maybe I should wait till I'm off the weed for a couple days/ a week before I stop the alcohol altogeher.

We'll see how tomorrow goes. Today I managed to go without alcohol but unfortunately got stressed out near the end of the day and did smoke weed


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #21982657 - 07/23/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you need more then 3 weeks i know someone who failed it and they had to wait a few months to join the army

I'm in the IN crowd you might say!


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Konyap]
    #21982673 - 07/23/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Konyap said:
you need more then 3 weeks i know someone who failed it and they had to wait a few months to join the army

I'm in the IN crowd you might say!





I've done tests before a handful of times but it was 4+ years ago, and I don't remember much, but I definitely only quit for 3-4 weeks max and was a heavier smoker then

The army might use lower testing cut off levels than other pre-employment tests do ,  who knows...


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #21983008 - 07/23/15 02:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Willpower goes a long, long way.


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: nuds]
    #21983023 - 07/23/15 02:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Are you going to Alberta? It's not supervised, at least everyone i know in oil patch says you go in stall in alone. My former roommate had clean pee in our freezer which he kept warm in a bottle warmer in his truck. He's locked up last i heard so i don't have a clean pee connection any more.


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: my3rdeye]
    #21983036 - 07/23/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you can quit heroin pot should be a breeze just don't do it, you might lose sleep for a night but that job sounds a lot better than having a few cones through the day.


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Laughingcowwa]
    #21983055 - 07/23/15 03:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Have some self restraint man ! You can do it if you believe you can !


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: KamikazeKush]
    #21983069 - 07/23/15 03:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

kava kava
wouldn't have made it through probation without it

good luck!


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #21983095 - 07/23/15 03:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

tl;dr OP isn't going to get a really good job because smoking pot is more important to him.


Why is anyone wasting time giving him advice on how to pass a test when he's obviously not even gonna stop smoking.


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #21983117 - 07/23/15 04:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd tell a pot head to put down the weed, stay focused on their goal,
and 4 weeks without weed is such a small price to pay for this possible golden opportunity.

You, my friend, may be more than a pot-head.:smirk:
And this is coming from an active pot head,
and an alcoholic in recovery(18 months dry)

Maybe take it easy with the other illegal drugs, too? :shrug:
I know, it sounds crazy, but
you need to get your priorities in order.


:goodluck: . . . :peace:


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: vinsue]
    #21983347 - 07/23/15 06:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You have to actually want to quit

If you don't really wanna quit then you won't

https://m.reddit.com/r/leaves

These guys can help you out a lot more than The Pub will


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #21983612 - 07/23/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well if this is any motivation i was a pretty heavy user and quit 4/20 and haven't smoked since. It's basically the three-day rule or 3 day hump. Once you get passed doing something for 3 days you kind of mentally don't care. I'm around it almost all the time. Still get offered it and it's kind of just like nah can't came this far and to restart would blow. I even have people almost upset that I don't smoke which kind of is retarded but I understand. They miss the social aspect I guess. I love weed very much. I almost feel sickly now that I don't smoke. I've gotten sick at least twice since I've quit.

The worst part about stopping is that you get insane dreams and shit. It adds to pretty shitty sleep if you ask me. Many people claim they are just dreams but when your going full blast through REM you aren't really sleeping if you ask me. Kava Kava would help cravings but honestly the worst part is going to be the sleeping aspect. Get some zzzquil cuz ur gonna need it.

I'd give yourself a solid month before testing if possible.


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Gorlax]
    #21983633 - 07/23/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Step 1: grow a pair of nuts
Step 2: stop smoking


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #21983635 - 07/23/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just think of all the weed you could buy with all the money you'll be making. Wait, don't do that. Seriously though, is there some kind of financial goal you want to pursue? Buying a house or something perhaps?



IME it's pretty straightforward to quit weed, just don't buy it, don't hang out with people who smoke it, and keep your mind occupied with other activities.


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: psi] * 1
    #21983640 - 07/23/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

OP if you follow my advice, quitting will be super easy


Stop fucking smoking


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21983656 - 07/23/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You guys suck at giving advice


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: koods]
    #21983704 - 07/23/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
tl;dr OP isn't going to get a really good job because smoking pot is more important to him.


Why is anyone wasting time giving him advice on how to pass a test when he's obviously not even gonna stop smoking.



Maybe his personal freedom to get high in his supposed free time is important to him too. He probably going to buttfuck nowhere where there is nothing to do but get drunk unless its a dry camp. Then everyone just smokes crack. Pot isnt the worst thing its just the easiest to test for. Drug testing has created a crack epidemic here and i am dead set against it. You shouldnt have to quit weed for your dream job in 2015.


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21983705 - 07/23/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I mean,

It's really just a matter of willpower and how badly he wants the job :shrug:

There really isn't much else to it


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21983716 - 07/23/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There's a lot more to it but clearly you don't understand


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21983726 - 07/23/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Educate me then


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21983731 - 07/23/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Educate yourself

I ain't your errand boy


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: OhMrJohnson] * 1
    #21983750 - 07/23/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:lolwut:

This is literally the advice you gave him

Quote:

You have to actually want to quit

If you don't really wanna quit then you won't




Which is basically what everyone told him, and then you say we sucked at giving advice.

Then you say I clearly don't understand the complexities of quitting weed and when I ask you to explain it you tell me to look it up myself?

WTF?

Why didn't you enlighten the OP with your awesome advice since we suck so bad?


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21983763 - 07/23/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Because I have more important things to do


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: OhMrJohnson] * 1
    #21983767 - 07/23/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:rofl:

You seem not to be too busy to sit here arguing about whose advice was better.


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21983771 - 07/23/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

OhMrJohnson said:
Because I have more important things to do




Like post in PoP and EMC?


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21983775 - 07/23/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

LOL okay you guys got me

:imout:

But for real just exercise hard eat well and it will make the quitting process a lot easier


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21983778 - 07/23/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:ohyou:


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21983783 - 07/23/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

if your only taking weed niacin would be your best friend

take 2500 mg itll clean your system but most importantly stop smoking rn


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: moehd]
    #21983792 - 07/23/15 09:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No it won't. All it does is make you itchy as fuck


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: moehd]
    #21983797 - 07/23/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

not the flush free type thats pussy shit

look for nicotinic acid acid in the ingredients


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21983804 - 07/23/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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No it won't. All it does is make you itchy as fuck




i can vouch for it i weight 250 and i got clean in 3 days for a 10 panel drug test


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: moehd]
    #21983813 - 07/23/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

impossible. your shit was diluted probably.

I already gave the best advice. Make it passed 3 days and you will be over the hump. The rest is just you not smoking. Easy. This isn't heroin or fucking benzos.


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: moehd]
    #21983814 - 07/23/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the only person ive seen fail with niacin is a 600 pound black drug dealer that was in my emt class XD he didnt wanna up the dose


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21983847 - 07/23/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In response to the original post, I would say use any herbal calming remedies can help, someone said kava, this stuff is great. There's kratom, but this is an opioid receptor agonist and isn't very healthy. Valerian root and melatonin at night helps, even nutmeg can help. They have these herbal supplements at vitamin shops and likely at your local super-market that are meant for sleep or stress relief, these can help as well.

I have a abused and managed to quit just about every addictive substance known, yet I can understand how marijuana can be hard to let go of, see , the difference with other addictive drugs is I wanted to quit but could not stop using, so when I finally made it away, it was easy to not turn back, where as with marijuana I've never wanted to stop. It also doesn't help that I don't feel anybody has the right to tell me that I can't use marijuana, but that's another discussion all together.

I think most people can be melodramatic when it comes to quitting marijuana, it's really not that hard, you may be easily irritated  for a week or two, maybe trouble sleeping, slight decrease in appetite, but honestly these things don't even qualify as "painful", simply uncomfortable, a very minor inconvenience.

HoNestly though, most things are hard to tolerate without weed, I think I could easily get through just about anything comfortably as long as I have weed, like say you get trapped in an elevator, this would suck, but say you get trapped in an elevator and you have an ounce of high-grade marijuana in your pocket, suddenly it's a tolerable situation. Most things in life are like this, like say you get sucked into having a family dinner with your wife's parents who hate you, pretty lame right? But if your able to stay stoned through it, it suddenly becomes tolerable...

...then when you have to quit, people say "you get grumpy", well no shit I get grumpy, because now I have to suffer through all these intolerable situations, it has little to do with chemical withdrawal or dependence.

Sorry, I got little of topic.

Anyway, just have will power, try to fill your day with situations that don't suck, that really helps, and for at least the first week or two lay off the cheech and chong movies and high Times magazines and cypress hill records...you know what I mean, pretty much avoid anything that would make you really want smoke.

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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum] * 2
    #21983917 - 07/23/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Change your routine OP, you're probably smoking habitually like I do, I come home from work, shower, light up shortly after and relax, basically a monday-thursday ritual.

As soon as I tried quitting, I'd get home, shower, and go wtf am I gonna do now, and end up resorting to it because I was bored, and everyday I said I wasn't gonna smoke, just kept going, well wtf else am I gonna do.

Break the routine if you're in one, I started playing guitar, going out with friends on work nights instead of staying in and going to bed early, reading books. Just do something different.

Other then that, it really is just willpower, I still smoke weed daily or I should say I went back to smoking weed daily and I personally would call it more of a habit then a addiction, fell back into the routine I was in and basically just on repeat again, start paying attention to your thoughts, helps a lot when you start learning to control what you're thinking about.

"God I want to smoke, I really wish I was high right now, I have a little I should just go do it" and your mind starts on a repeat going back and forth between thoughts like this, realize your mind is stuck on that, and then choose to think "fuck it, right now I have this to do, I'll think about that later"

Which isn't as easy as it sounds, but it starts becoming much easier to be aware of the thoughts you're having and consciously replace them by thinking of other things the more you do it. Become the observer of your thoughts, rather then the follower of them. Dictate your own mind, don't let your mind dictate you. Meditation can help this process too, you feel in control of your thoughts and most of the time you might be, but when you really try to focus on one thing, such as the breath, you start to notice that your mind goes all over the place  even while attempting to focus on something else and without you doing anything and yet at first you won't even notice your mind is drifting, which is a big part behind the practice, become aware of that and go back to what you're focusing on, and incorporate it into your life. Self-awareness is key, both outer and inner self-awareness, not even just self-awareness, just awareness in general, your thoughts, your actions, your behavior, become aware enough that you can make changes based on things you notice about yourself instead of looking to other people to give you answers about you.

I'm not an expert in any of this though, and the best advice I can attempt to give but it helped me when I quit, I just went back because at least weed makes this day to day prison seem tolerable, but if you're trying to advance your life, sometimes you have to give something you like up in order to get something you want more :shrug:


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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: SirShroomsAlott] * 1
    #21983937 - 07/23/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dude you seriously give the most well thought out responses.

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    #21983948 - 07/23/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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You, my friend, may be more than a pot-head.:smirk:
And this is coming from an active pot head,
and an alcoholic in recovery(18 months dry)





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Re: Tips to help a pot head stop smoking pot and get clean for a test [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21984027 - 07/23/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Can't toke? Sucks balls but from my experience this is what helped me through it

1. Kratom and kava kava

2. Mxe

Lol that's l I got man, nothing comes close to mj in my opinion but you have to do what you have to do, good luck!


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    #21985663 - 07/23/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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"thanks man, I was beginning to believe I was a rented mule with the way you abused me" -vinsue's liver



My liver thanked me again last week by responding so well to my treatment
that I am now HCV free.
Guess ya can teach an old dog new tricks.(trick being :nono::faded:)
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    #21986880 - 07/23/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:raisemyglass:


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