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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: healing]
#21987812 - 07/23/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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KauaiOrca said: 3-4 crashes in New Mexico as a result of the Military's efforts to bring them down.
They mastered interstellar space travel but got shot down by Murica? This sounds like a bad sci fi movie.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: my3rdeye]
#21987835 - 07/23/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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maybe they live in total peace, or didn't want to risk war by bringing an armed ship.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21987842 - 07/23/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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plus typically even if they wanted war, you always send scouts first to gather data about your enemy and resources. They might be trying to determine how valueable our planet is and if we are worth the trip
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21988676 - 07/24/15 06:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: plus typically even if they wanted war, you always send scouts first to gather data about your enemy and resources. They might be trying to determine how valueable our planet is and if we are worth the trip
Chances are, they've been here for thousands if not millions of years. UFO activity picked up considerably after the US and USSR developed nuclear weapons. A high percentage of UFO activity happens around nuclear bases both here and in Russia. There are many military reports that these UFO's had the ability to literally shut down the operations (electricity) at these bases at will. The most reliable reports indicate that in New Mexico, we brought down a number of these UFO's in the late 1940's with very powerful radar arrays that disabled them in flight as they kept coming near the nuclear facilities in that area.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21988684 - 07/24/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The chemical compositions of the atmospheres of other planets is simple to figure out (not to people like me and you obviously, but luckily science can be dumbed down enough for even people like us to understand), though incomplete. When you shine white light through elements, they give off certain c6olors of the wavelength, when the star has a planet pass in front of it, light shines through the atmosphere and they can use sensitive equipment to pick up on what wavelengths are being portrayed around the planet, and while incomplete, it gives them the general makeup of the atmosphere itself, since the most abundant elements will show more of the that color. Sorry if this was a little funky, I'd have to link the article to explain it in detail and don't have time now, as we have technological innovation and advancements, we will be able to use this to determine whether actual life is on another planet. The surface on the other hand, I can't remember how they figure out, I read about it before but it's been a while.
Below is a section of my last post, as a chemistry student I understand the principal quite well...
We can determine chemical composition of the atmospheres and surfaces of other planets by measuring spectrums off of the light the reflect back from the planet's surface as the star shines light on it (spectral analysis) every element has a specific chemical signiture, so by using spectrosopy, the science of analyzing chemical structure through reflected light, we can easily determine chemical composition regarding local planets.
E. Borodin
I was asking how they could employ this technique on exo-planets so distant we are unable to receive reflected light from them, such as the Kepler exo-planets..
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The United States did return to the moon, a number of times, they stopped because of funding, the only reason we went in the first place is because during the cold war we were afraid of Russia gaining the high ground, especially after they released sputnik, we only ever went, out of fear.
Obviously I was referring to after the Apollo missions...
They claim it's was from lack of funding or public interest, trust me though funds are never an issue for a branch of the military, and recently public interest is piqued in space exploration, to go to mars re-visiting the moon may be necessary, so a return is not unheard of...
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From me and your viewpoint, it makes no sense to not go back to the moon, the government on the other hand probably thinks it makes a lot of sense not to go back especially if it isn't profitable. It's a shame though, the amount of our taxes that goes towards the space program is shameful, considering that space exploration is the greatest thing humans are capable of and already have the potential of doing.
There are plans for a trip to mars which involve return to the moon, possibly even building a base there, though projected dates even for a complete plan are something like 2025 or beyond, and several other options do exist that don't involve the moon...
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Cold war and other wars ended, most likely leaving a government seeing it as a waste of resources to continue going back. It might be because we went that Russia and them never did, it was a space race after all, and we won that race.
This still puzzles me...why would Russia just give up because we got there first?
It would be a waste of funding to go so far and then quit on the brink of the end-goal of the program...
Was it technology? Could they not get the technology to pull it off?
Money shouldn't have been in issue for the Russians at that point ,right?
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As for the question regarding digital technology,the calculator was a random example, I was trying to imply how these people didn't have digital technology, or at least nothing you or I would consider digital technology (it was very very crude), and still put a man on the moon...
As for the moon not being a planet, it's a simple error in nomenclature, the point still should have been obvious, it's obviously a satellite, but that sounds strange "everything we know about putting a man on a satellite comes from nasa."..
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maybe they were just pretending and wanting to make it seem like a race so america wasted money doing it
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21988741 - 07/24/15 07:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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arn't satellites supposed to be curved or something? why do we not detect transmissions from it?
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21988742 - 07/24/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: maybe they were just pretending and wanting to make it seem like a race so america wasted money doing it
Or, maybe the real reasons we wanted to go to the moon were never revealed to the public and the "made for TV version" was just a PR event to justify the expense.
What do most people remember? The planting of the flag, hopping around with less gravity and hitting a golf ball.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: KauaiOrca]
#21988749 - 07/24/15 07:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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its the moon and we had almost no technology, i don't think we really had any idea what to do
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21988750 - 07/24/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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hell we still almost have no idea what to do with it, another 10 years to design some shit to do on it 2025 next time we go there
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21988751 - 07/24/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: arn't satellites supposed to be curved or something? why do we not detect transmissions from it?
How odd is it that the moon's rotation is such that we never see the back half of it from the earth? This is the only orb in our solar system that does this, from what I understand.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: KauaiOrca]
#21988754 - 07/24/15 07:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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how does that make it a satellite tho, that would only make sense if it was transmitting to earth, where are the thrusters adjusting it
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: Shroomopotamus]
#21988756 - 07/24/15 07:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok, that link you posted cleared up my issue with exo-planet analysis...
"Interestingly enough, one method makes use of the light coming from the host star. The basic principle is that the light from a star can be analyzed both before and after an exoplanet crosses in front of the star" -that link
They are doing spectral analysis of the stars light! Not light reflected from the planets!, which are invisible to us.
There's another method which preforms analysis of light curves.
Brilliant stuff.
It was bothering me because in all actuality these planets are invisible, kepler simply watches stars for long durations and graphs the light intensity, since these planets are otherwise invisible I could not wrap my mind around how spectral analysis would even be an option, though the solution was quite simple, it's still good thinking.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21988758 - 07/24/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: how does that make it a satellite tho, that would only make sense if it was transmitting to earth, where are the thrusters adjusting it
A satellite just means it's an object in orbit around a planet...
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then why mention we never seen the back of it?
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: Ok, that link you posted cleared up my issue with exo-planet analysis...
"Interestingly enough, one method makes use of the light coming from the host star. The basic principle is that the light from a star can be analyzed both before and after an exoplanet crosses in front of the star" -that link
They are doing spectral analysis of the stars light! Not light reflected from the planets!, which are invisible to us.
There's another method which preforms analysis of light curves.
Brilliant stuff.
It was bothering me because in all actuality these planets are invisible, kepler simply watches stars for long durations and graphs the light intensity, since these planets are otherwise invisible I could not wrap my mind around how spectral analysis would even be an option, though the solution was quite simple, it's still good thinking.
-E. Borodin
Anyone that found this post interesting and/or has an interest in brushing up on the whole foundation of these astronomical observations (meaning how we began measuring things like the circumference of the earth to the orbit of the moon to the distances of nebulae) would do well to watch this lecture: Terence Tao: The Cosmic Distance Ladder, UCLA
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