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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: SurReality]
#22086281 - 08/13/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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abductee said: I'd have to disagree, as long as its not hurting you or others 
lol well yea you can believe what ever you want. but if you strive to be more intelligent and sane member of humanity, you should take my advice on choosing you beliefs.
so your saying be carefull what we choose to believe in because your afraid you would look insane to others? in this wonderfull closed mind society? or believing in something totally different from the (norm) makes you less intelligent? i have to strongly disagree seeming as how most of the people who are scientists,theorists ect.. do nothing but think outside the box and try to come up with explinations that make sense in their head.....not yours. if your so concerned about being called weird or dumb because of what you choose to believe in then you should go join the sheeple. I myself have seen the most intricate patterns and geometric shapes from taking a 4 gram dose of some potent shrooms. and anyone can say yeah you were just tripping, that is until my friend i was tripping with was seen the same exact patterns in the same exact matter..which lead me to believe maybe we're just breaching our true consciousness, maybe the alien life has already reached theirs, maybe true consciousness isn't a state of mind but an actuall level of reality? because i can tell you i was blown away from the patterns and shapes i seen all intertwined with one another all turning together like pieces of gears in a old clock, even more shocked when my friend noticed the same exact things... i truly believe i seen the fabric of the universe and time itself forming. and one thing i noticed is it took the shapes of a lot of (organic) based life forms on the planet.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: KauaiOrca]
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Yes i'm sure it's not the asshole military/freak scientists doing experiments on us all and it must be aliens.
I wish it were aliens but
I don't think its aliens.
There are recorded UFO Sightings going back thousands of years. They were so common in the Renaissance that many paintings show detailed pictures of disc shaped UFO's. Why would they do that in an art form that strived to represent reality in a very real and honest way?
Colourful circles on a painting
must be aliens
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: Beanhead]
#22086391 - 08/13/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes i'm sure it's not the asshole military/freak scientists doing experiments on us all and it must be aliens.
I wish it were aliens but
I don't think its aliens.
There are recorded UFO Sightings going back thousands of years. They were so common in the Renaissance that many paintings show detailed pictures of disc shaped UFO's. Why would they do that in an art form that strived to represent reality in a very real and honest way?
Colourful circles on a painting
must be aliens
http://www.crystalinks.com/maryufoclose.jpg
cant say its indefinite proof but.....this is in a period long before the term ufo was even invented, before flying machines also.... kind of wierd don't you think?
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: Beanhead]
#22086506 - 08/13/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Colourful circles on a painting
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Get serious. Look at the actual paintings. They are flying discs.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22087374 - 08/13/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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if you look close you'll see a guy looking up at it, if he has to look up that clearly means its in the sky. which leads me to the most obvious conclusion, weather ballons
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22087383 - 08/13/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Colourful circles on a painting
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Get serious. Look at the actual paintings. They are flying discs.
I know, i've looked at them extensively and read up the history.
It is intriguing and mystical to say at the least.
But no indication of a form that did not come from earth. How can we tell?
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: Beanhead]
#22087941 - 08/13/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Colourful circles on a painting
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Get serious. Look at the actual paintings. They are flying discs.
I know, i've looked at them extensively and read up the history.
It is intriguing and mystical to say at the least.
But no indication of a form that did not come from earth. How can we tell?
You are aware that there are literally hundreds of written accounts of flying craft down through history of flying machines disappearing into the sky? Christopher Columbus and his entire crew saw three of them and their account of the event was in great detail. You would be very hard pressed to find many civilizations going back to the dawn of language that didn't have some kind of written or pictorial record of very advanced beings interacting with humans on this planet often using extremely advanced flying machines coming from space.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22087959 - 08/13/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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well because christopher columbus said it then obviously its true, next you'll tell us he discovered a great land filled with animal people
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22088063 - 08/13/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: well because christopher columbus said it then obviously its true, next you'll tell us he discovered a great land filled with animal people
Why would you doubt the eyewitness account of one of the world's greatest explorers and his entire crew? He obviously spent many, many days and nights on the open ocean, was very familiar with the natural phenomena and then, in one extraordinary night, they saw several hovering craft that hung around their ships for awhile. The account is documented.
But, of course, he, like literally millions of others are all wrong, mistaken, confused, etc. As is every single story of man's creation from every culture around the world. Every single one.
And, of course, the astronauts and military personnel that have come forward to admit involvement in alien technology projects are all wrong, lying, confused, disoriented, etc. as well.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22088090 - 08/13/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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people tell stories, infact many people were famous for telling stories. even today for instance, people become presidents based off of their story telling abilities.
so imagine hundreds of years ago, you are an adventurer, obviously boats and supplies cost money. maybe he paid for it himself, maybe he didn't, but regardless telling stories has its perks, imagine the fame you'd gain if you had a story about shit flying in the sky
why, he might even be why nasa got funded
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22088133 - 08/13/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: people tell stories, infact many people were famous for telling stories. even today for instance, people become presidents based off of their story telling abilities.
so imagine hundreds of years ago, you are an adventurer, obviously boats and supplies cost money. maybe he paid for it himself, maybe he didn't, but regardless telling stories has its perks, imagine the fame you'd gain if you had a story about shit flying in the sky
why, he might even be why nasa got funded
I have no doubt whatsoever that a very high percentage of sightings and claims are either bogus, or poor interpretation of what they're seeing or actual descriptions of secret US technology. And I mean a high percentage ... probably 95% or even higher. A fairly small amount of it is motivated by human weakness and desire for financial gain or media attention or both. I have not doubt at all about that.
But to claim that 100% of all sightings fall into this category ... I mean 100% of the millions of people down through history that have had and described a direct experience with seeing aliens, alien crafts, alien technology etc., that's an absolute remarkable thing to claim and I simply can't do that. The odds that every single story of every UFO / Alien / Alien technology account from every country, from every civilization for thousands of years ... that every single one is false in some way ... that's utterly ridiculous and the odds of that being true are infinitessimally low. That every military pilot, every astronaut, every airline pilot, every policeman and every military person on every base that has reported seeing alien craft is wrong ... Wow that takes some real guts to believe that.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22088284 - 08/13/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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people are stupid, lots of people today in this point in history can see shit and claim its aliens just because thats how uneducated they are, and how easily they are manipulated. The further back in history you go, for the most part, the less educated people get. Granted their were some really smart people, purhaps on average they were smarter than people today, but the level of technology they had limited the scope of their visions. Overall, the further back in time you go, the less creditable they get. Ontop of stories getting 'edited', and changed over time, you can't believe a single thing in a book, period. Paintings are even worse because you don't know what people added in, you don't know what they were thinking, what is meant to be real, whats not, ect.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22088328 - 08/13/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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why isnt the op banned yet
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22088558 - 08/13/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: people are stupid, lots of people today in this point in history can see shit and claim its aliens just because thats how uneducated they are, and how easily they are manipulated. The further back in history you go, for the most part, the less educated people get. Granted their were some really smart people, purhaps on average they were smarter than people today, but the level of technology they had limited the scope of their visions. Overall, the further back in time you go, the less creditable they get. Ontop of stories getting 'edited', and changed over time, you can't believe a single thing in a book, period. Paintings are even worse because you don't know what people added in, you don't know what they were thinking, what is meant to be real, whats not, ect.
I agree that a lot of people are stupid, financially motivated, lying for fame, superstitious and just honestly wrong. But on a topic that has been around literally for thousands of years with literally millions who have seen UFO's, interacted with Aliens and claimed involvement in top secret government alien technology projects, I simply can't make the leap and claim or believe that 100% of them are wrong. I can even get to 99%. But not 100%. There are far too many highly trained, educated and credible people that have no financial or media interest at all and, in fact, did not want to disclose what they saw or their involvement was. The fact that the government maintained massive files and projects to monitor all this UFO activity is evidence that there is much more than is being revealed. A Minister of Defense for Canada is ON THE RECORD that UFO/Alien Technology exists and is being covered up. We have astronauts who report being tracked and followed by UFO's while in space. We have military pilots that have gotten into dogfights with UFO's. We have naval officers that have seen UFO's come up out of the ocean and disappear into the the sky.
We're not talking about a bunch of guys in RV's hanging around Roswell, smoking dope and selling pyramid hats here.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22088585 - 08/13/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i dunno i bet columbus did alot of drugs on those boat rides
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22088681 - 08/13/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: i dunno i bet columbus did alot of drugs on those boat rides
Might have ... of course his entire crew on all three boats saw it too ... but maybe it was a group hallucination??? LOL
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22088724 - 08/13/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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very possible, everyone on dmt see's elves apparently
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: mushmouth89]
#22088802 - 08/13/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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abductee said: I'd have to disagree, as long as its not hurting you or others 
lol well yea you can believe what ever you want. but if you strive to be more intelligent and sane member of humanity, you should take my advice on choosing you beliefs.
so your saying be carefull what we choose to believe in because your afraid you would look insane to others? in this wonderfull closed mind society? or believing in something totally different from the (norm) makes you less intelligent? i have to strongly disagree seeming as how most of the people who are scientists,theorists ect.. do nothing but think outside the box and try to come up with explinations that make sense in their head.....not yours. if your so concerned about being called weird or dumb because of what you choose to believe in then you should go join the sheeple. I myself have seen the most intricate patterns and geometric shapes from taking a 4 gram dose of some potent shrooms. and anyone can say yeah you were just tripping, that is until my friend i was tripping with was seen the same exact patterns in the same exact matter..which lead me to believe maybe we're just breaching our true consciousness, maybe the alien life has already reached theirs, maybe true consciousness isn't a state of mind but an actuall level of reality? because i can tell you i was blown away from the patterns and shapes i seen all intertwined with one another all turning together like pieces of gears in a old clock, even more shocked when my friend noticed the same exact things... i truly believe i seen the fabric of the universe and time itself forming. and one thing i noticed is it took the shapes of a lot of (organic) based life forms on the planet.
that's not at all what i said. but thanks for asking for clarification. as i said before i have very few beliefs at all and am by no means mainstream in those beliefs and a skeptic.
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: SurReality]
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But, of course, he, like literally millions of others are all wrong, mistaken, confused, etc. As is every single story of man's creation from every culture around the world. Every single one
I know. Its strange how people just make stuff up
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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: specialpeopleclub]
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But, of course, he, like literally millions of others are all wrong, mistaken, confused, etc. As is every single story of man's creation from every culture around the world. Every single one
I know. Its strange how people just make stuff up
Over the last 15 years, I've had dozens of conversations about UFO's and Aliens with some pretty intelligent people. In every case when someone (again, an intelligent person) had certainty the whole topic was nonsense, in every case when I asked them what they truly knew about the topic? Which cases they were aware of? Which witnesses they had heard? Which astronauts or military people they had read about ... IN EVERY SINGLE CASE they knew almost nothing about the topic. EVERY CASE.
Most people that laugh at the UFO / Alien topic or just knee jerk say it's nonsense and say stuff like "it's all been de-bunked" have no flipping clue at all about the topic. They saw a TV show or two and that was about it.
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