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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22080418 - 08/12/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

some people think those orbs are like probes, or drones. Some people have tried to classify certain crafts, and try to establish their purpose. I think its hard because different crafts different species of aliens, different purposes. Ive often wondered what some of these alien culture is like, their belief system, morals?? I think that has a lot to do with intention.


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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: koods]
    #22080421 - 08/12/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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So no sources except wishful thinking and hearsay. Do you guys think UFO's are physical machines from other planets as well?




I had a UFO experience in the summer of 2012.

I was just waking up, I stepped out on the balcony of the apartment, we were on the next to top floor, great view, any way I was looking out across the landscape when in a valley a few miles up I saw two copper colored spheres, equidistant from one another, the rising Sun in the east reflected off the sides of these objects, they were metallic, and bigger than anything I had ever seen in the sky...I watched them for 15 minutes or so, just hovering there...

I have no idea what they were, but 3 days after I saw them I smoked DMT for the first time....it was the single most significant experience of my life...

-E. Borodin




The bright light in this image is what sunlight looks like reflected of a solar panel on a satellite 900 miles away. Imagine how big and bright a shiny object anywhere on the visible horizon could look reflecting the sun as it rises above the horizon.







Nah, there were 2 of them, side by side, hovering over a valley in the north, it's was around 7:30am, the Sun was hanging in the east, but it was day light. I was facing north, and the objects were about 2-3 miles north of where I was, hovering over a valley, the Sun reflected off the right sides of the objects creating quite a glare, you could tell they were metallic, or appeared to be metallic. I did get a great view of them, it was daylight, and they were not very far away, and I watched them for around 15 minutes...

I don't expect you to believe me, and trust me, I have gone over every possibility in my head of known objects, and there is nothing known that is a metallic sphere, colored like copper piping or a penny, that's massive, and  that can Hoover in the sky without making sound...

I'm not saying I know what they were, just that it was nothing I had ever seen before...

things in life got really weird after I saw them, it was the most surreal 3 days of my life, impossible strings of coincidences built to a peak of bizzare glory, several impossible things happened within those three days... and 3 days after I saw the UFOs my life changed forever via DMT...

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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: abductee]
    #22080430 - 08/12/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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some people think those orbs are like probes, or drones. Some people have tried to classify certain crafts, and try to establish their purpose. I think its hard because different crafts different species of aliens, different purposes. Ive often wondered what some of these alien culture is like, their belief system, morals?? I think that has a lot to do with intention.




I'm still not convinced they were alien spacecraft...I don't know what the hell they were...

-E. Borodin...


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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22080445 - 08/12/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There's quite a few countries where news medias covered  mass ufo formations. hundreds of witnesses just freaking out and taking pics and videos. the west like someone said doesn't cover stuff like that, rarely.
here's a sighting in colorado this year.. still watching the video



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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: abductee]
    #22080468 - 08/12/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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There's quite a few countries where news medias covered  mass ufo formations. hundreds of witnesses just freaking out and taking pics and videos. the west like someone said doesn't cover stuff like that, rarely.
here's a sighting in colorado this year.. still watching the video






Globally, dozens of group sightings are happening every month and being reported.  The US media is very reluctant to report UFO stories and pretty much laughs it all off as a joke.  Witnesses are not taken seriously and there is no serious investigation, from media outlets, into the issue. 

Meanwhile military personnel, astronauts, the Defense Secretary of Canada have all come forward with undeniable evidence and eyewitness testimony. 

John Podesta, Clinton's chief of staff and the person heading Hillary's campaign is the #1 advocate for full disclosure on the topic by the US government.  He has stated repeatedly the government is hiding a ton of information and evidence from the public and one would guess he was in a position to know.  Reagan was absolutely obsessed about the topic as was Bill Clinton and many reported that they asked virtually everyone they could find about the topic to get the full 411.  Those close to Reagan stated he did get a full briefing, but was the last president to get it.  Bill Clinton was apparently furious at the stonewalling he got by the military. 

The Phoenix lights incident is a great example of how these stories are ignored.


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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #22080477 - 08/12/15 09:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

TL/DR. So did this get revealed yet?


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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22080489 - 08/12/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm still not convinced they were alien spacecraft...I don't know what the hell they were...

-E. Borodin...




It's likely, at this point in 2015 that much of what we would label UFO activity are advanced super secret aircraft the US military has developed and is testing or utilizing on projects.

In the 40's and 50's there were months where literally THOUSANDS of UFO reports were coming in from all over the country, but more specifically, around bases where advanced weapons and Nuclear missile technology was kept.  There are a number of reports from active military personnel about UFO's that repeatedly hovered around nuclear facilities and shut off the power at will in an apparent demonstration of their ability to control our ability to use this technology.  There has been a lot of reporting on the UFO's that were actually shot down by high powered electromagnetic radar arrays in New Mexico and Phil Schneider who was an engineer who worked on deep underground military bases reported in great detail a military confrontation with a hive of ET's that his digging project apparently accidentally stumbled into ... he sustained extreme injuries from the incident.

Harry Truman actually responded to the growing UFO sighting situation on camera and stated that the topic of UFO's and aliens was discussed at nearly every meeting with his defense advisors.  Why would he do that?


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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: koods]
    #22080502 - 08/12/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Present a false premise, then force someone to choose from two ridiculous conclusions. This is exactly the technique used in every episode of Ancient Aliens. Either you watch the show religiously, or you are one of the writers.




I've had an active interest in the topic most of my adult life and honestly haven't seen many episodes of the show you refer to but did see a couple maybe 4-5 years ago. 

When you can come up with a valid explanation to all the military personnel and astronauts that have come forward, some at the end of their lives and explained their involvement in various alien technology projects, then I'll take you seriously.  The fact of the matter is, that there have been literally millions of people around the world over the last 150 years that have seen UFO's, or admitted involvement in alien technology projects ... even if 99% of these reports are bogus, that leaves 1% ... for anyone to claim that EVERY SINGLE UFO encounter by every human on this planet is a bogus lie is extraordinary.  That every single military person that has reported involvement in alien technology projects is lying is truly an amazing claim. 

Research the Rendelsham Forest incident in England, for instance.  It's a great place to start if you want to get some reporting from military personnel that is very hard to easily dismiss.


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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: nicechrisman] * 1
    #22080811 - 08/12/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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TL/DR. So did this get revealed yet?



No but I hear Tool is working on a new album.


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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #22080888 - 08/12/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sweet, going to listen to some tool.

I was just thinking about space and I thought about how black holes suck everything in..  :patlal: Is it possible that the purpose of black holes is to keep the universe from expanding too fast?


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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22084896 - 08/13/15 05:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm still not convinced they were alien spacecraft...I don't know what the hell they were...

-E. Borodin...




It's likely, at this point in 2015 that much of what we would label UFO activity are advanced super secret aircraft the US military has developed and is testing or utilizing on projects.

In the 40's and 50's there were months where literally THOUSANDS of UFO reports were coming in from all over the country, but more specifically, around bases where advanced weapons and Nuclear missile technology was kept.  There are a number of reports from active military personnel about UFO's that repeatedly hovered around nuclear facilities and shut off the power at will in an apparent demonstration of their ability to control our ability to use this technology.  There has been a lot of reporting on the UFO's that were actually shot down by high powered electromagnetic radar arrays in New Mexico and Phil Schneider who was an engineer who worked on deep underground military bases reported in great detail a military confrontation with a hive of ET's that his digging project apparently accidentally stumbled into ... he sustained extreme injuries from the incident.

Harry Truman actually responded to the growing UFO sighting situation on camera and stated that the topic of UFO's and aliens was discussed at nearly every meeting with his defense advisors.  Why would he do that?





I've considered this as well and yes it's very possible...

Just seeing these things doesn't give you any hints at what they are or where they are comming from.

All I can say is nothing was ever the same three days after the sighting, after the DMT I speculated that they were the ghost of the shaman master that was going to take my soul 3 days later, ands myself, our souls exteriorized in the form of  golden floating spheres flying in the sky...

Once out of nature I shall never take
My bodily form from any natural thing,
But such a form as Grecian goldsmiths make
Of hammered gold and gold enamelling
To keep a drowsy Emperor awake;
Or set upon a golden bough to sing
To lords and ladies of Byzantium
Of what is past, or passing, or to come. -W.B. yeats

Every time I hear this poem I think of that day, I always thought Yeats was saying after I die (once out of nature) the form I take will be like nothing seen on earth (I shall never take
My bodily form from any natural thing) he will become this brilliant golden object in the sky, the soul exteriorized as a metallic flying disc, that would astonish the Lord's and ladies of Byzantium (But such a form as Grecian goldsmiths make
Of hammered gold and gold enamelling
To keep a drowsy Emperor awake;
Or set upon a golden bough to sing
To lords and ladies of Byzantium
Of what is past, or passing, or to come)

(Contains wild speculation)
The UFO experience was NOT a psychological event, I'm familiar with nearly every altered state and form of hallucination,and this was not anything like a hallucination, or delusion, or an altered state, this was real...but because of the deep psychological effect it had I thought it was me in the DMT realm, my body turned inside out forming the object, the second object was the shaman whose karmic fields and energy possessed my soul three days later, the event was so strong that it broke the bounds of space in time, projecting itself into the future and the past...my soul became a physical object made of Grecian gold enamelling free from the bonds of space in time dancing in the sky before my past self at the present moment...

...Or maybe they really were air craft of some kind, I'm sure a good deal of UFOs are...

If you took a 16oz glass and went to the ocean and filled the glass with ocean water, then examined the glass, and then came to the conclusion "there is no life in the ocean because there is no evidence in my glass" it would be the equivalent of what modern culture is saying about the universe.

(Contains Wild speculation)
There must be advanced beings and I'm sure they know we are here, maybe they are so advanced the actually build solar systems around stars, the earth is a machine built by the ET as our habitat, that's why all these "1 in a million" precisions which our universe could not function with out seem so artificial, or impossible by pure chance....
...

They likely were air-craft, but if you only knew how surreal those three days were and how impossible the peak experience was, you would speculate there was some deeper connection to these events....who was it that said "a coincidence is what your left with when you have applied a bad theory" meaning what you perceive as coincidence is actually a set of connections your not picking up on...

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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22085233 - 08/13/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

lol you just casually brought DMT into that story, you sound kinda whacked out bro


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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: SurReality]
    #22085310 - 08/13/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've heard it said that Albert Einstein would go into these "daydreams" where he would travel through the cosmos and answers and info would be revealed to him.. It's also been documented that his brain did not degenerate at the same rate as an average person. When he died , i believe he was in his sixties ( hate biographies )his brain was of the health of someone in their late 20's


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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: SurReality]
    #22085365 - 08/13/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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lol you just casually brought DMT into that story, you sound kinda whacked out bro




Which is why I only tell these stories here, this is the perfect venue for saying all the things that I wouldn't say otherwise, I know it sounds crazy, but that's what happened...

I don't take this stuff as seriously as you would imagine,but I cant deny the possibilities either, no matter how absurd they sound to others...which is why you must experience these things first hand, you cant take someone's word (and if you just believed all that in telling you there would be something wrong with you)

I think the DMT was connected to it, the UFO sighting was the start and the DMT flash was the peak, this was my shamanic initiation...I work with an Ecuadorian shaman, when I tell him these things it's not strange to him, so your perception of a "crazy interpretation of reality" is as culture bound as your currant fashion in clothing or the latest hit on the radio, when you talk to people who really have dug deep into consciousness and existence, they will recognize the shamanic archetypes, they will relate it to their experience in hyperspace.

I am the modern version of a shaman, I don't claim to be part of the ancient line, I'm not a shaman in the sense that a witoto or shipibo shaman is a shaman, but I'm using identical practices and experiences to form my modern and unique version of shamanic practice...

I had deep synchronicity in the outter world impact a transformative event to occur in the inner world...that's the core of what happened...

It's not entirely me either, there's an ancient shamans ghost that has attached itself to me, and guides me through hyperspace, sometimes he gives me ideas, sometimes his words flow out of my mouth, sometimes he leads me to objects in the outter world, and when I'm dancing around the fire during psychedelic sessions I can feel him guiding my body, giving me the traditional dances of his ancestors...he even told me his name, but I have still never told his name to another human...and won't.

At the same time when you say "you sound crazy" that's exactly what I was looking for, ideas so novel they come across as bizzare, strange, or crazy, I'm pushing the boundaries of the reality constructed around me by linguistically smashing it to pieces ...

My favorite translation of shaman is "the one who makes you crazy"

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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: abductee]
    #22085382 - 08/13/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I've heard it said that Albert Einstein would go into these "daydreams" where he would travel through the cosmos and answers and info would be revealed to him.. It's also been documented that his brain did not degenerate at the same rate as an average person. When he died , i believe he was in his sixties ( hate biographies )his brain was of the health of someone in their late 20's




Einstein called these "thought experiments"

I'm convinced endogenous DMT played a role in Einstein's biochemistry, and influanced his thought experiments.

Here's a funny but true story,when Einstein died, the man performing the autopsy stole his brain, he kept it in a pickle jar full of preservative,and fought with Einstein's family to keep it...now, this guy was not a neurologist, or even a medical doctor,and really didn't know what he was doing, imagine what we could have learned had Einstein's brain not been stolen...

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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22085391 - 08/13/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i'm hardly mainstream in my beliefs, i'm just a skeptic. i have many ideas that are considered paranoid, but i only take my ideas as ideas and actually have very few beliefs at all. sounds like you have an active imagination, as do i, but i think you should be a little more careful on the ideas you come up with and believe to be true.


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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: SurReality]
    #22085412 - 08/13/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'd have to disagree, as long as its not hurting you or others :rockon:


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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22085429 - 08/13/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Where can one review these findings? Official or otherwise...

-E. Borodin




Mountains of evidence and files for you to review if you show any motivation, curiosity or initiative.  These countries have all signed on to the disclosure movement and turned over thousands of military files on official military and police UFO/Alien sightings.





Yes i'm sure it's not the asshole military/freak scientists doing experiments on us all and it must be aliens.

I wish it were aliens but

I don't think its aliens.


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    #22085537 - 08/13/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'd have to disagree, as long as its not hurting you or others :rockon:




lol well yea you can believe what ever you want. but if you strive to be more intelligent and sane member of humanity, you should take my advice on choosing you beliefs.


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Re: NASA to reveal planet full of alien life tomorrow [Re: Beanhead]
    #22086249 - 08/13/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yes i'm sure it's not the asshole military/freak scientists doing experiments on us all and it must be aliens.

I wish it were aliens but

I don't think its aliens.




There are recorded UFO Sightings going back thousands of years.  They were so common in the Renaissance that many paintings show detailed pictures of disc shaped UFO's.  Why would they do that in an art form that strived to represent reality in a very real and honest way?


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